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Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 20:47
by keithmoonhangover
I'm not asking how the fighters would do in a head to head battle. I just want to know who you rank higher.
1. Ali or Louis
2. Dempsey or Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston
7. Langford or Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett
11. Patterson or Tyson
12. Baer or McVey
13. Walcott or Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns
15. Frazier or Witherspoon
16. Norton or Moorer
17. Sharkey or Schemling
18. Young or Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua
22. Are there any other heavyweights that you would consider to be in your top 20 of all time, who are not listed above?
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 20:52
by Horse
Fury deserves a mention.
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 21:26
by Boxerbeetle
How come Foreman is on there twice?
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 06:58
by Rexob
Ali or Louis ... Ali.
2. Dempsey or Johnson...Dempsey.
3. Tunney or Marciano... Marciano.
4. Charles or Foreman...Foreman.
5. Frazier or Holmes...Holmes.
6. Lewis or Liston...Lewis.
7. Langford or Bowe...Langford.
8. Jeffries or Holyfield...Holyfield.
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali...Vitali.
10. Wlad or Corbett...Wlad.
11. Patterson or Tyson...Tyson.
12. Baer or McVey...Bear.
13. Walcott or Foreman...Foreman.
14. Johansson or Burns...Burns.
15. Frazier or Witherspoon...Witherspoon.
16. Norton or Moorer...Norton
17. Sharkey or Schemling...Schemling
18. Young or Wills...Wills.
19. Jeanette or Foley...Foley.
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers...Ibeabuchi never finished his career (yet!) so Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua...Quarry
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 07:32
by Tuan_Jim
keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not asking how the fighters would do in a head to head battle. I just want to know who you rank higher.
1. Ali or Louis
2. Dempsey or Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston
7. Langford or Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett
11. Patterson or Tyson
12. Baer or McVey
13. Walcott or Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns
15. Frazier or Witherspoon
16. Norton or Moorer
17. Sharkey or Schemling
18. Young or Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:26
by dr_devious
1. Ali or Louis - Ali
2. Dempsey or Johnson - Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano - Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman - Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes - Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston - Liston
7. Langford or Bowe - Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield - Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali - Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett - Vlad
11. Patterson or Tyson - Tyson
12. Baer or McVey - Baer
13. Walcott or Foreman - Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns - Johanson
15. Frazier or Witherspoon - Frazier
16. Norton or Moorer - Norton
17. Sharkey or Schemling - Schmeling
18. Young or Wills - Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley - Jeanette
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers - Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua - Quarry
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:38
by reggaereggae
dr_devious wrote:1. Ali or Louis - Ali
2. Dempsey or Johnson - Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano - Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman - Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes - Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston - Liston
7. Langford or Bowe - Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield - Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali - Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett - Vlad
11. Patterson or Tyson - Tyson
12. Baer or McVey - Baer
13. Walcott or Foreman - Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns - Johanson
15. Frazier or Witherspoon - Frazier
16. Norton or Moorer - Norton
17. Sharkey or Schemling - Schmeling
18. Young or Wills - Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley - Jeanette
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers - Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua - Quarry
I would agree with all of those, . The only close one is Foreman-Walcott
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:42
by dr_devious
I got hell on here years ago for saying Foreman would hammer Walcott, not sure about hammer but I think he'd beat him and I rate George 5 or 6 on my all time list
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:44
by tiny_acres
Frazier is on here twice also
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:46
by tiny_acres
1. Ali or Louis - Ali
2. Dempsey or Johnson - Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano - Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman - Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes - Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston - Lewis
7. Langford or Bowe - Langford
8. Jeffries or Holyfield - Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali - Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett - Wlad
11. Patterson or Tyson - Tyson
12. Baer or McVey - Baer
13. Walcott or Foreman - Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns - Johanson
15. Frazier or Witherspoon - Frazier
16. Norton or Moorer - Norton
17. Sharkey or Schemling - Schmeling
18. Young or Wills - Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley - Jeanette
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers - Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua - Quarry
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 29 Dec 2015, 10:51
by Tuan_Jim
dr_devious wrote:I got hell on here years ago for saying Foreman would hammer Walcott, not sure about hammer but I think he'd beat him and I rate George 5 or 6 on my all time list
Walcott was much too slippery and clever to be "hammered" by Foreman. I would think Foreman would crowd and catch him with one or two eventually, but would likely be trailing. Wouldn't be surprised however if Walcott won a wide decision. At his peak he was a very hard man to pin down.
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 08:01
by Happy Slapper
I love the classic comparing eras questions. Everyone goes for the older fighter coz it looks more knowledgeable. Liston or Lewis and two have already chosen Liston... says it all.
'Alan Minter or Bernard Hopkins? Definitely Minter - he was around in the 70s after all. Hopkins only finished fighting about a year ago so he definitely can't have beat or be better than someone who fought that long ago!'
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 10:36
by SteveO
1. Ali
2. Johnson
3. Marciano
4. Foreman
5. Holmes
6. Lewis
7. Langford
8. Jeffries
9. Vitali
10. Wlad
11. Tyson
12. McVey
13. Foreman
14. Burns
15. Frazier
16. Nortonr
17. Schemling
18. Wills
19. Jeanette
20. Shavers
21. Quarry
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:29
by Flump
keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not asking how the fighters would do in a head to head battle. I just want to know who you rank higher.
1. Ali or Louis
2. Dempsey or Johnson
3. Tunney or Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes
6. Lewis or Liston
7. Langford or Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett
11. Patterson or Tyson
12. Baer or McVey
13. Walcott or Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns
15. Frazier or Witherspoon
16. Norton or Moorer
17. Sharkey or Schemling
18. Young or Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua
22. Are there any other heavyweights that you would consider to be in your top 20 of all time, who are not listed above?
1. Ali
2. Johnson
3. Marciano
4. Foreman
5. Holmes
6. Lewis
7. Bowe
8. Holyfield
9. Vitali
10. Wlad
11. Tyson
12. Baer
13. Foreman
14. Johannson
15. Frazier
16. Norton
17. Schmeling
18. Wills
19. Folley
20. Shavers
21. Quarry
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:41
by banjo
The later one in every case.
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 01 Jan 2016, 05:06
by lillywhite14
Happy Slapper wrote:I love the classic comparing eras questions. Everyone goes for the older fighter coz it looks more knowledgeable. Liston or Lewis and two have already chosen Liston... says it all.
'Alan Minter or Bernard Hopkins? Definitely Minter - he was around in the 70s after all. Hopkins only finished fighting about a year ago so he definitely can't have beat or be better than someone who fought that long ago!'
Jack Broughton beats the shite out of all of them and he also has the better legacy!
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 03 Jan 2016, 06:49
by banjo
Happy Slapper wrote:I love the classic comparing eras questions. Everyone goes for the older fighter coz it looks more knowledgeable. Liston or Lewis and two have already chosen Liston... says it all.
'Alan Minter or Bernard Hopkins? Definitely Minter - he was around in the 70s after all. Hopkins only finished fighting about a year ago so he definitely can't have beat or be better than someone who fought that long ago!'
Yep, boxing is obsessed with the past.
Re: Who Do You Rate Higher All Time?
Posted: 03 Jan 2016, 14:55
by prime
1. Ali or Louis Louis
2. Dempsey or Johnson Dempsey
3. Tunney or Marciano Marciano
4. Charles or Foreman Foreman
5. Frazier or Holmes Frazier
6. Lewis or Liston Liston
7. Langford or Bowe Bowe
8. Jeffries or Holyfield Holyfield
9. Fitzsimmons or Vitali Vitali
10. Wlad or Corbett Wladimir
11. Patterson or Tyson Tyson
12. Baer or McVey Barr
13. Walcott or Forman Foreman
14. Johansson or Burns Johansson
15. Frazier or Witherspoon Frazier
16. Norton or Moorer Moorer
17. Sharkey or Schemling Schmeling
18. Young or Wills Wills
19. Jeanette or Foley Foley
20. Ibeabuchi or Shavers Shavers
21. Quarry or Tua Quarry