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Now they complain about his resume and bla bla. They say that Wilder is an easy fight for Povetkin . They think that Povetkin is unbeatable monster

Povetkin faced only two tall opponents - It was Wach and Klitschko . There is notting special about Wach , he has got 50% KO ratio against very poor opposition , he is very slow and lazy . Simply punching bag for any average contenders .

Guys like Takam , Charr , Perez , Chagaev are similiar size and they have inside boxing style.

Inside boxers are very limited against any average outside fighter.

Mike Tyson was hopeless against Buster Douglas , It was not about "not being prime" as many his fans claim , it was about boxing styles.

There is a very good reason that most dominant champions were tall outside fighters.


Povetkin will go forward and eat Wilder's jabs and straight punches.


Most of Wilder's doubters will claim "Oh , Wilder never faced anyone on Povetkin's level"

Tell me what has resume to do with BOXING STYLES?


Who has Tyson Fury fought before Wladimir Klitschko ? He was supposed to be knocked out inside 5 rounds by many boxing "experts"

They did complain about his resume and chin , that he was knocked down by Steve Cunninham.



MARK MY WORDS , DEONTAY WILDER WILL BEAT ALEXANDER POVETKIN VIA UD OR EVEN A TKO



I will come back 5 months later to remind you that i was right :)

Except the fight won't even happen. Why do you think Glazkov vs Martin was rushed onto the 16/1 card? So Wilder can fight the winner in a "unification" fight, and therefore doesn't have to fight his mandatory (Povetkin).

It's obvious

lowlefthand wrote:Except the fight won't even happen. Why do you think Glazkov vs Martin was rushed onto the 16/1 card? So Wilder can fight the winner in a "unification" fight, and therefore doesn't have to fight his mandatory (Povetkin).

It's obvious

Yawn , This fight will happen . Povetkin's promoter posted it even on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/_p1skHB1mW/ ... ryabinskiy

You are trying to tell us that Wilder ducks Povetkin . On the other hand it was Povetkin who wanted fight Wach and that's why they allowed Wilder to take second volumentary defence and now Povetkin is not ready so they allowed him 3rd volumentary defence .

It's Povetkin's fault , His team did notting for this fight . Same as againist Klitschko , Povetkin pulled the fight and ducked him many times . He was even mandatory 2 years for him

I think Wilder has a good chance in this fight. His size, footwork and jab will give Povetkin tons of problems IF he will be 100% focused and disciplined in this fight. Povetkin is excellent combo-puncher, but he doesn't throw combinations when his opponent moves well. Also Povetkin is very vulnerable to the jab, and Wilder has long, fast and pretty hard jab. Povetkin also eats uppercuts like Butterban eats hot dogs. Povetkin was the only fighter in the recent years whom Wlad was hitting with his underdeveloped uppercuts (7th round of their fight). Wlad has/had great jab, great right hand and absolutely brutal left hook, but his uppercut is very, very poor. Still he was able to land a couple of uppercuts against Povetkin. Wilder can throw uppercuts, as we saw in his last fight, but while throwing them he left the right side of his face wide open for opponent's left hook, and left hook is Povetkin's best punch.

Also, Wilder has never fought against a good pressure fighter. Stiverne was good (I actually think he is underrated by many people now), but he is natural counter-puncher, and against Wilder he tried to fight like swarmer or slugger, which is far from his natural style. Remember how poor he looked against Ray Austin, who boxed from the outside? So Povetkin will be the first good natural pressure fighter in Wilder's career.

I think it will be very intriguing fight where anything can happen. But Wilder has to be very discipnined and focused, he can't left himself so wide-open as he did against Molina or Duhaupas.

conty22 wrote:Now they complain about his resume and bla bla.

Yeah, we only just started complaining about his resume. Wilder used to have all of these wins against Ali, Holyfield, etc., but the statute of limitations has just elapsed on those wins, so we've only now started complaining about it. Hell, I remember 2 years ago, no one was complaining about his resume. They were like "Man, Audley Harrison is such a great fighter, and it's not pathetic at all that he's Wilder's best opponent to date."

Also, Wilder has neither beaten Povetkin nor agreed to fight him. Maybe you should find a reason to like Wilder that is based in fact, not fantasy.

Imagine a world where a thoroughly boring, fouling cheating hugging decade long champion in an abysmal HW division reigns. And the young HW knockout artist known for throwing lots of punches producing action and seeking the finish, he's the one to complain about? Sorry, no that's pretty dumb and definitely embarrassing to read.

Thank God for Fury, can't wait to see Tyson stop him next time.

As boxing fans most have 2 extremes on evaluating fighters.


1 is where they ride a boxers nuts so hard that they can not be objective in their evaluation.

2 is where they are so overly critical of every other boxer that they can not be objective.

I say MOST fans are this way.Not all so before you start jumping my ass read that again MOST fans

Wilder's haters will find another reason after he beats Povetkin

True, if such people exist.

But I'll make prediction of my own: Wilder fanboys will vanish like ninjas when Povetkin knocks him out.

Mark my words, I'll come back 5 months later to remind you that i was right.

I'm not a Wilder 'hater' but I am a little sceptical as to how good he really is.
I thought he boxed really well against Stiverne and expected him to go onwards and upwards from there, but since then his level of opposition has dropped, as have his performances.

I think he has a chance of beating Povetkin and if he does I will applaud him. But until the fight gets made and while he continues to defend against sub-par opposition, I shall remain sceptical.

mark my words.. Deontay Wilder will be KO'd first round just like Mike Perez .. not even a contest .. Povetkin will make Wilder do the chicken dance ..

he wouldn't have haters if he didn't fight bums

conty22 wrote:Now they complain about his resume and bla bla. They say that Wilder is an easy fight for Povetkin . They think that Povetkin is unbeatable monster

Povetkin faced only two tall opponents - It was Wach and Klitschko . There is notting special about Wach , he has got 50% KO ratio against very poor opposition , he is very slow and lazy . Simply punching bag for any average contenders .

Guys like Takam , Charr , Perez , Chagaev are similiar size and they have inside boxing style.

Inside boxers are very limited against any average outside fighter.

Mike Tyson was hopeless against Buster Douglas , It was not about "not being prime" as many his fans claim , it was about boxing styles.

There is a very good reason that most dominant champions were tall outside fighters.


Povetkin will go forward and eat Wilder's jabs and straight punches.


Most of Wilder's doubters will claim "Oh , Wilder never faced anyone on Povetkin's level"

Tell me what has resume to do with BOXING STYLES?


Who has Tyson Fury fought before Wladimir Klitschko ? He was supposed to be knocked out inside 5 rounds by many boxing "experts"

They did complain about his resume and chin , that he was knocked down by Steve Cunninham.



MARK MY WORDS , DEONTAY WILDER WILL BEAT ALEXANDER POVETKIN VIA UD OR EVEN A TKO



I will come back 5 months later to remind you that i was right :)

finaly someone makes sense.

wilder kos povetkin

I don't really see why anybody wouldn't be something of a Wilder hater at the moment. One of the most protected guys in the PBC stable where the entire damn stable is overly protected is pretty bad.

If he beats Povetkin I'll give him credit, Hell I gave him credit for beating Stiverne. But as of this moment Stiverne is the one and only particularly good fighter he's ever fought.

Povetkin will knock him out if he fights, though honestly from the looks of it I think he'd rather drop his belt than fight Povetkin. That's certainly the way it seems.

Did someone ban bnovelist and let him create a new profile or has he just created an alter ego so he could experiment with typing in blue font to highlight the pish he's talking?

Whoever posted that he will fight the winner of glazkov-martin is dead on in my opinion. There is a reason that fight has been added to this card (when it very easily could have been its own). I am not 100% sure of the wbc rules, but I am pretty sure they allow you to put off a mandatory in order to make a unification fight. I have no doubt he will go that route. The question then becomes will he defend the wbc belt against povetkin or does it become expendable if he has the ibf. Say what you want about wilder, but I don't think he has any trouble at all against glazkov or martin.

RandomUsername wrote:Here's an excuse. I don't think that Povetkin or Mr Poo as I call him is anything special at all.

So what does that say for the guy that is avoiding him like the plague?

If he beats Povetkin, I'll chalk it up as a big man who beat a little man.... Wilder's damn near 6'8" and Povetkin is 6'2".... Where is the honor, or the struggle, or the victory in beating someone so much smaller?.... That being said, Povetkin would be the toughest test in my eyes that Wilder has ever faced. He's not some limited frog like Duhapas. He'll not only come forward, he'll be throwing bombs. Drop him a dozen times, he'll get up a hundred times. I hope Wilder packs a lunch, because it will not come easy at all.

Boxing Writer wrote:I think Wilder has a good chance in this fight. His size, footwork and jab will give Povetkin tons of problems IF he will be 100% focused and disciplined in this fight. Povetkin is excellent combo-puncher, but he doesn't throw combinations when his opponent moves well. Also Povetkin is very vulnerable to the jab, and Wilder has long, fast and pretty hard jab. Povetkin also eats uppercuts like Butterban eats hot dogs. Povetkin was the only fighter in the recent years whom Wlad was hitting with his underdeveloped uppercuts (7th round of their fight). Wlad has/had great jab, great right hand and absolutely brutal left hook, but his uppercut is very, very poor. Still he was able to land a couple of uppercuts against Povetkin. Wilder can throw uppercuts, as we saw in his last fight, but while throwing them he left the right side of his face wide open for opponent's left hook, and left hook is Povetkin's best punch.

Also, Wilder has never fought against a good pressure fighter. Stiverne was good (I actually think he is underrated by many people now), but he is natural counter-puncher, and against Wilder he tried to fight like swarmer or slugger, which is far from his natural style. Remember how poor he looked against Ray Austin, who boxed from the outside? So Povetkin will be the first good natural pressure fighter in Wilder's career.

I think it will be very intriguing fight where anything can happen. But Wilder has to be very discipnined and focused, he can't left himself so wide-open as he did against Molina or Duhaupas.

This is a solid analysis. I don't see Wilder as having as good footwork as Wlad (he steps more and glides less, for want of more descriptive terms) nor is he as strong in the clinch (it seems to me) which are two of the things WK used (with the jab and the power, which Wilder also has) to neutralise Pov. He is much easier to cut off and perhaps because he's never been KOd before he is much less reluctant to engage as well.

For those reasons I lean towards a Povetkin win by KO if the fight happens but I wouldn't be surprised by almost anything. I don't think the "I told you so"s will be justified whoever wins - it'll be the best win of either man's career so far and with so many intangibles what case can be made for being so certain?

HomicideHenry wrote:If he beats Povetkin, I'll chalk it up as a big man who beat a little man.... Wilder's damn near 6'8" and Povetkin is 6'2".... Where is the honor, or the struggle, or the victory in beating someone so much smaller?.... That being said, Povetkin would be the toughest test in my eyes that Wilder has ever faced. He's not some limited frog like Duhapas. He'll not only come forward, he'll be throwing bombs. Drop him a dozen times, he'll get up a hundred times. I hope Wilder packs a lunch, because it will not come easy at all.

Are you fornicating retarded? Height is only one factor. People like you annoy the hell out of me. Give him credit if, and when he wins. Or, STFU.

Badhusker wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:If he beats Povetkin, I'll chalk it up as a big man who beat a little man.... Wilder's damn near 6'8" and Povetkin is 6'2".... Where is the honor, or the struggle, or the victory in beating someone so much smaller?.... That being said, Povetkin would be the toughest test in my eyes that Wilder has ever faced. He's not some limited frog like Duhapas. He'll not only come forward, he'll be throwing bombs. Drop him a dozen times, he'll get up a hundred times. I hope Wilder packs a lunch, because it will not come easy at all.

Are you effing retarded? Height is only one factor. People like you annoy the hell out of me. Give him credit if, and when he wins. Or, STFU.

Height, weight, reach do indeed make a world of difference. I'm sorry to say. It's too nostalgic and simple minded to say smaller men of yester year could beat the likes of bigger, stronger men today. I applaud Povetkin for being a top man among giants, when he himself isn't one, but the facts are the facts. He was easily pushed around by Klitschko. And Klitschko is not the most aggressive man out there. Wilder is. So if Wilder brutalizes the man, then I chalk it up to size and strength being too much.

Until Wilder faces a man his own size, with near the same abilities, then to me there will always be a question mark.

Lets take one fight at a time. First Wilder has to beat Szpilka. If he does, he will fight either Povetkin or the winner of Glazkov/Martin. If he goes to a unification, I will call him out for ducking, as it is bullshit. I want him to beat Povetkin to show he is the real deal to people that have questions.

I totally get people dissing Wilder because of his competition. He deserves it, and needs to step it up big time. If he does, and wins, I hope folks give him credit.

First lets agree what is to give credit. Its not, as fanboys think that, after one decent win everyone should fall down on their knees and anoint him as the new messiah. I gave Wilder a lot of credit for beating Stiverne. I elevated him from a "bum squad" to a top ten. If he beats Povetkin I will put him squarely as the 3rd best HW in the world, after Fury and Klitschko.

He is not fighting Povetkin though. He is fighting Szpilka and I am not too sure he'll come through.

Wilder's already talking about unification, so I am leaning towards him facing the Glazkov/Martin winner. Makes sense for a WBC/IBF unifier and eventually face the Ortiz/Chagaev (if that ever happens) winner. Who knows what Tyson Fury will do following the Klitschko rematch (provided that he wins the rematch, which I believe he will). The IBF, WBC, WBA and promotions here in the States are running a monopoly on the heavyweight division.

HomicideHenry wrote: Height, weight, reach do indeed make a world of difference. I'm sorry to say. It's too nostalgic and simple minded to say smaller men of yester year could beat the likes of bigger, stronger men today. I applaud Povetkin for being a top man among giants, when he himself isn't one, but the facts are the facts. He was easily pushed around by Klitschko. And Klitschko is not the most aggressive man out there. Wilder is. So if Wilder brutalizes the man, then I chalk it up to size and strength being too much.

Until Wilder faces a man his own size, with near the same abilities, then to me there will always be a question mark.

This fight doesn't have anything to do with any of that. Wilder is taller with longer arms but that's it - last five fights they've weighed in at around the same range: between 219-229*lbs for Wilder and 225*-230* for Povetkin.

*rounded up from 3/4

I have no such intentions. Except that Wilder beats Fury.