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Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 07:01
by conty22
It makes me mad . He is number ranked one in POLAND . He is pretty confident and he is not a school teacher as most of Wilder's opponents.

Povetkin fought slow robotic Wach and no one had problem lol . Szpilka is much dangerous than Wach .

Wach is very slow , he has 50% KO ratio over bums !

Wach is a simply punching bag for any top30 boxer! All he has is a chin .

People know Wach only because he was a punching bag for Wladimir.

There is notting impressive about Wach and Szpilka would beat him via UD.

Szpilka won Against Adamek .

Adamek houlds some notable wins like against Steve Cunninham or Eddie Chambers

Don't tell me that this guy is a bum :OhYes:

https://youtu.be/r7CtXKK0i1Y?t=1m18s

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 08:16
by Badhusker
Its simple. Anyone Wilder has fought was either a bum before he fought them, or after.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 08:40
by Manos_De_Piedra
Bum is a harsh word but he's little more than that.

He was barely competitive with Jennings who isn't even that good himself.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 08:57
by conty22
Manos_De_Piedra wrote:Bum is a harsh word but he's little more than that.

He was barely competitive with Jennings who isn't even that good himself.
Still he is better than Wach. There is so much hype about Povetkin's last opponents.



Dohoupas is better than Charr

Szpilka is better than Wach

Stiverne and Perez - I believe Stiverne wins this via UD or very close match

Takam is better than Molina or Scott


So wtf is that ? Anyone who Povetkin fights is very good

But anyone who Wilder fights is a bum ?

Boxing fans are hypocrites.

After Wilder beats Povetkin , they will call him a small bum and they will find another hero

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 09:31
by Tanzio
Badhusker wrote:Its simple. Anyone Wilder has fought was either a bum before he fought them, or after.
Ok, do us a favor and give us your best description of Wilder's "competition" (with the exception of Stiverne) up to this moment.

I don't like the word "bum" unless I'm in certain countries describing a healthy female ass, but Wilder's resume is not replete with big game trophies.

Szpilka is not a head of livestock waiting in line for the slaughter.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 09:33
by Tanzio
conty22 wrote:
Manos_De_Piedra wrote:Bum is a harsh word but he's little more than that.

He was barely competitive with Jennings who isn't even that good himself.
Still he is better than Wach. There is so much hype about Povetkin's last opponents.



Dohoupas is better than Charr

Szpilka is better than Wach

Stiverne and Perez - I believe Stiverne wins this via UD or very close match

Takam is better than Molina or Scott


So wtf is that ? Anyone who Povetkin fights is very good

But anyone who Wilder fights is a bum ?

Boxing fans are hypocrites.

After Wilder beats Povetkin , they will call him a small bum and they will find another hero
Excuse me for the interruption. You seem to be working this out quite well for yourself.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 09:49
by Tony1244
Szpilkva is not a bum. you made one mistake though, Wilder doesn't fight school teachers, he fights former light heavyweight journeymen who became cab drivers. But that was a few years ago, Deontay has stepped up to top 10, 15 guys like Stiverne and Spilkva. Art is a good solid contender.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:09
by Horse
Szpilka is a decent opponent for Wilder.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:26
by digzee
The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:28
by Horse
digzee wrote:The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....
Why?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:31
by digzee
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....
Why?
Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:39
by conty22
digzee wrote:
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....
Why?
Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.

And tell me how Wach got a shot for silver belt against Povetkin ? Wach is only know for being a punching bag for Wladimir.

He has got 50% KO ratio against bums and he is very slow and robotic.

If Povetkin fights only best guys acording to his fans , why he did not fight Joshua , Pulev or someone better? Wach is even worse than Douhoupas.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:40
by Tanzio
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....
Why?
Exactly. While it would have been nice to see Wilder brought along a bit quicker, he has no doubt improved his game over the last three years, and it is time to judge him on what he does going forward. Szpilka is a decent start to 2016 for Wilder. If he ends up fighting Szpilka, Glazkov and Povetkin in 2016, critics will be few.

I like Wilder and Fury and Joshua and Parker and Ortiz and Povetkin. They can't avoid each other much longer.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:44
by Tanzio
digzee wrote:
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:The problem everyone has with Wilder is that he should have been fighting the likes of Szpilka 3 years ago....
Why?
Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.
You hold beating Stiverne for one of many belts against him? Team Wilder is doing something right, even if it is just building a solid hater base.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:49
by digzee
Tanzio wrote:
digzee wrote:
Horse wrote:Why?
Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.
You hold beating Stiverne for one of many belts against him? Team Wilder is doing something right, even if it is just building a solid hater base.
Do you think he earned his title fight?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:52
by Horse
digzee wrote:Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.
Wilder did more than most title contenders to earn his shot.

Wilder hasn't set the world alight, but he does have one of the best records in the division and he is slowly going about improving his record further.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 10:56
by digzee
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:Because he never earned his title shot, he didn't even fight Scott until Chisora beat him first.
Wilder did more than most title contenders to earn his shot.

Wilder hasn't set the world alight, but he does have one of the best records in the division and he is slowly going about improving his record further.
How many top 10 fighters did he beat to earn his shot?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:14
by Horse
digzee wrote:How many top 10 fighters did he beat to earn his shot?
How many top 10 fighters do most world title challengers face before getting their shot?

Why are you holding Wilder to a higher standard than everyone else?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:19
by digzee
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:How many top 10 fighters did he beat to earn his shot?
How many top 10 fighters do most world title challengers face before getting their shot?

Why are you holding Wilder to a higher standard than everyone else?
Where did I say i'm happy for other boxers to get a title shot without facing top contender's?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:23
by jockpunk
digzee wrote:
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:How many top 10 fighters did he beat to earn his shot?
How many top 10 fighters do most world title challengers face before getting their shot?

Why are you holding Wilder to a higher standard than everyone else?
Where did I say i'm happy for other boxers to get a title shot without facing top contender's?
Why does it matter?

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:32
by digzee
jockpunk wrote:
digzee wrote:
Horse wrote:How many top 10 fighters do most world title challengers face before getting their shot?

Why are you holding Wilder to a higher standard than everyone else?
Where did I say i'm happy for other boxers to get a title shot without facing top contender's?
Why does it matter?
Because there are boxers working there ass off for an opportunity but then others who are gifted the opportunity because they have a big promoter.

I guess for you lot rankings don't matter, as long as you are with a big promoter you get what you want and that's fair enough.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:33
by Horse
digzee wrote:Where did I say i'm happy for other boxers to get a title shot without facing top contender's?
He got his title shot and won via domination.

I don't the point in hating on him because he didn't take on 5 world class fighters before he got his shot.

He's the champion now and he's fighting a mostly decent level of opposition for a paper champion.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:35
by Horse
digzee wrote:Because there are boxers working there ass off for an opportunity but then others who are gifted the opportunity because they have a big promoter.
Like who?
digzee wrote:I guess for you lot rankings don't matter, as long as you are with a big promoter you get what you want and that's fair enough.
But Wilder won easily, so he was a worthy contender.

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:39
by digzee
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:Where did I say i'm happy for other boxers to get a title shot without facing top contender's?
He's the champion now and he's fighting a mostly decent level of opposition for a paper champion.
He's fighting the same level of opposition as Brook but you slaughter him...

Re: Why boxing fans call Artur Szpilka a bum?

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 11:48
by digzee
Horse wrote:
digzee wrote:Because there are boxers working there ass off for an opportunity but then others who are gifted the opportunity because they have a big promoter.
Like who?

Haskins bet both Hall and McDonnell and they got an opportunity before him, there are loads of contenders who can only get a title shot by going through a mandatory route while others don't have to.