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So Khans been made mandatory for the WBC Welterweight Title. He'll face the winner of Garcia vs Guerrero. Doesn't look like his only route back to a world title is Brook anymore.

LGilsenan wrote:Doesn't look like his only route back to a world title is Brook anymore.

When was it ever?

Horse wrote:

LGilsenan wrote:Doesn't look like his only route back to a world title is Brook anymore.

When was it ever?

Well it was never really his only way back, let me rephrase that, he no longer has to fight Brook for decent money, he can turn to Garcia for the rematch when he beats Guerrero.

Really? He hasn't fought since last May and that wasn't exactly a win over a big name. I'd have thought he needed to do more to get mandatory status but hey ho.

Khan winning a title will probably make a fight with Brook less likely.

If Brook is the champion then a fight could be made - if they are both champions then I can see Khan giving it the "I am the bigger draw" and wanting the bigger slice of the purse and all other stuff which would ultimately mean the fight doesn't happen.

If Khan wins the WBC, then next Spring / Summer we could see the biggest all British fight ever!

This could make both Khan Brook, very, very rich men

Every article I am reading seems to be pointing to a summer fight with Brook v Khan. Wonder if talks are going well behind the scenes or perhaps there is an agreement in principle? Khan should take the Brook fight before he even considers going in with Garcia again. If Garcia chins him again the Brook fight is gone and that fight probably has the biggest earning potential outside of Mayweather or Pac and they fights have obviously passed him by.

sammy95 wrote:If Khan wins the WBC, then next Spring / Summer we could see the biggest all British fight ever!

This could make both Khan Brook, very, very rich men

It won't be as big as Froch/Groves 2 and nowhere near the proposed Fury/Joshua match.

Wiggins Pol wrote:So, look terrible in your last fight, spend most of the year inactive while begging for fights (Floyd/Manny) and you get made mandatory for a title.

Well done WBC

So by your logic, how does Guerrero deserve a title fight before him?

Also worth noting that Brook has been inactive for exactly one day less than him

Stuarty30 wrote:Every article I am reading seems to be pointing to a summer fight with Brook v Khan. Wonder if talks are going well behind the scenes or perhaps there is an agreement in principle? Khan should take the Brook fight before he even considers going in with Garcia again. If Garcia chins him again the Brook fight is gone and that fight probably has the biggest earning potential outside of Mayweather or Pac and they fights have obviously passed him by.

On the other hand loosing to Brook will be the end of his carrier. Garcia fight is exactly what he needed to get out of the Brook fight. Its a title fight, its a chance to revenge and its an easier fight which he will probably win.

Tarkus wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Every article I am reading seems to be pointing to a summer fight with Brook v Khan. Wonder if talks are going well behind the scenes or perhaps there is an agreement in principle? Khan should take the Brook fight before he even considers going in with Garcia again. If Garcia chins him again the Brook fight is gone and that fight probably has the biggest earning potential outside of Mayweather or Pac and they fights have obviously passed him by.

On the other hand loosing to Brook will be the end of his carrier. Garcia fight is exactly what he needed to get out of the Brook fight. Its a title fight, its a chance to revenge and its an easier fight which he will probably win.

I'm not so sure it's an easier fight.
Danny is a top class fighter who may have had a few underwhelming performances in the not too distant past, but he's spanked Khan before and I've said for some time now, I'll never write Danny off again.
I also think people are getting over excited about Brook, no doubt he's a quality fighter but he was only just good enough to beat Porter who was himself an average world champion IMO and has fought no one else of real quality.

If Brook is as good as many think, surely he is not someone who would signal the end of your career if he were to beat you?

mickey1975 wrote:

sammy95 wrote:If Khan wins the WBC, then next Spring / Summer we could see the biggest all British fight ever!

This could make both Khan Brook, very, very rich men

It won't be as big as Froch/Groves 2 and nowhere near the proposed Fury/Joshua match.

I think it could be as big, especially if they are both holding belts. That's one fight I'd happily pay for.

davie wrote: I'm not so sure it's an easier fight.
Danny is a top class fighter who may have had a few underwhelming performances in the not too distant past, but he's spanked Khan before and I've said for some time now, I'll never write Danny off again.
I also think people are getting over excited about Brook, no doubt he's a quality fighter but he was only just good enough to beat Porter who was himself an average world champion IMO and has fought no one else of real quality.

If Brook is as good as many think, surely he is not someone who would signal the end of your career if he were to beat you?

Garcia took advantage of Khans bad habits of getting careless and lunge in. Since then he worked hard to improve on that aspect of his game with visible results. I think Khan will box Garcias head off in the rematch.

As for Brook I think his win over Porter is bigger then any of Garcias wins. I dont think Garcia beats Porter. Brook is big, strong and aggressive fighter that will walk through whatever Khan has to offer.

The most important thing is that Khan appears to also think that way. He was looking for Garcia rematch for quite some time, while avoiding Brook like a plague. Even though Brook fight has been the biggest money fight for him all these years. And still is with massive UK PPV potential.

Tarkus wrote:

davie wrote: I'm not so sure it's an easier fight.
Danny is a top class fighter who may have had a few underwhelming performances in the not too distant past, but he's spanked Khan before and I've said for some time now, I'll never write Danny off again.
I also think people are getting over excited about Brook, no doubt he's a quality fighter but he was only just good enough to beat Porter who was himself an average world champion IMO and has fought no one else of real quality.

If Brook is as good as many think, surely he is not someone who would signal the end of your career if he were to beat you?

Garcia took advantage of Khans bad habits of getting careless and lunge in. Since then he worked hard to improve on that aspect of his game with visible results. I think Khan will box Garcias head off in the rematch.

As for Brook I think his win over Porter is bigger then any of Garcias wins. I dont think Garcia beats Porter. Brook is big, strong and aggressive fighter that will walk through whatever Khan has to offer.

The most important thing is that Khan appears to also think that way. He was looking for Garcia rematch for quite some time, while avoiding Brook like a plague. Even though Brook fight has been the biggest money fight for him all these years. And still is with massive UK PPV potential.

Even with his flaws Khan was boxing his head off first time round. I have Khan to win either against Garcia or Brook, with both being very risky assignments for Amir and his aversion to hard digs on the chin.

I think Garcias win over Khan and Matthysee at least matches a win over Porter if not betters it

let's say khan takes the garcia fight and wins. he could have £5m now for fighting brook, would he really get that much more if he had a belt, so much more that it would motivate him to give brook a pay day?

I dont think he will ever fight brook and that means brook will probably retire having never earned the amount of money he desperately thinks he's owed and having never really taken a risk either. the porter fight wasnt a risk, he had no option. he's 30 this year, time is running out.

Khan taking the Garcia rematch is the only fight in time that would make sense if he was to duck Brook again. I like that fight and both need a good name on they're records after they're recent outings. I would sure like to see Khan doing his chicken dance again facing Brook or Garcia.

No arguments from me if Khan fights Garcia or Brook.

If it is Garcia then Brook needs to fight a similar level of fighter and not whinge about Khan 'ducking' him. It's a legitimate option

Does Khan know people at the WBC?

He's practically semi retired & now down to one appearance annually & he hasn't fought anyone of note & somehow he is a mandatory?

Khan picked up the WBC silver last year didn't he?
Looks like this is the WBC rewarding him for that now they have took Floyd's manhood out of their mouths long enough to realize other welterweights exist.

Khan
Porter
Brook
Garcia
Matthyse
Maidana
Thurman
Bradley
Pacquio

Just get some fights happening please , I know a few of them have fought each other but there's good fights there

I don't like seeing them matched with Peterson and Guerrero , does nothing for me there pretty much done.

Take Pacquio out of the mix and no one really knows who is the best Welterweight out there.

to me id say Garcia is top of the pile until proven otherwise

gobbles wrote:

Wiggins Pol wrote:So, look terrible in your last fight, spend most of the year inactive while begging for fights (Floyd/Manny) and you get made mandatory for a title.

Well done WBC

So by your logic, how does Guerrero deserve a title fight before him?

Also worth noting that Brook has been inactive for exactly one day less than him

#owned

Gazmac81 wrote:Khan
Porter
Brook
Garcia
Matthyse
Maidana
Thurman
Bradley
Pacquio

Just get some fights happening please , I know a few of them have fought each other but there's good fights there

I don't like seeing them matched with Peterson and Guerrero , does nothing for me there pretty much done.

Take Pacquio out of the mix and no one really knows who is the best Welterweight out there.

to me id say Garcia is top of the pile until proven otherwise

Taking Pac out I would say it's probably Bradley on achievements and Thurman on ability. Garcia right up there though.

davie wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Every article I am reading seems to be pointing to a summer fight with Brook v Khan. Wonder if talks are going well behind the scenes or perhaps there is an agreement in principle? Khan should take the Brook fight before he even considers going in with Garcia again. If Garcia chins him again the Brook fight is gone and that fight probably has the biggest earning potential outside of Mayweather or Pac and they fights have obviously passed him by.

On the other hand loosing to Brook will be the end of his carrier. Garcia fight is exactly what he needed to get out of the Brook fight. Its a title fight, its a chance to revenge and its an easier fight which he will probably win.

I'm not so sure it's an easier fight.
Danny is a top class fighter who may have had a few underwhelming performances in the not too distant past, but he's spanked Khan before and I've said for some time now, I'll never write Danny off again.
I also think people are getting over excited about Brook, no doubt he's a quality fighter but he was only just good enough to beat Porter who was himself an average world champion IMO and has fought no one else of real quality.

If Brook is as good as many think, surely he is not someone who would signal the end of your career if he were to beat you?

I genuinely think Brook has the talent and power to be one (if not thee) of the main players at 147 and I reckon he could go to 154 and win titles also but maybe he is a little fragile mentally? Maybe his 0 means too much to him. As for being just good enough to beat Porter, I think Porters just one of they guys that's horrible to fight and near impossible to look good against. Was a close, messy fight. You're 100% correct though Brooks opponents have been mediocre at best. I'm a fan but I want to see him in with Bradley, Thurman, Spence, Garcia, Khan etc...

I think the thing with Khan is that he knows he's probably one more KO away from becoming irrelevant and was looking for a big pay day. Maybe the desire isn't quite what it used to be. IMO Brook is a harder fight than Garcia for Khan but as you say, there's no way I would write Danny off. If I had to bet money I'd opt for Garcia tbh. I hope they make the Brook Khan fight first as I'd hate to see it fall through.

Khan will run the clock down this year , hope Brook moves up.

G0mez wrote:hope Brook moves up.

Why?

I'd like to see him at least try to do something at welterweight first.