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Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 10:10
by Tony1244
Any predictions?

I'll go with Martin KO 8, but this one could go either way.

Glaskov should have 2, maybe even 3 close decision losses. The Czar has faced better competition, but Martin has decent power, albeit against limited opposition.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 11:37
by actjac
This is a good heavyweight contender bout....but is so phony to call it a title fight (just another money grab by an alphabet organization). Martin will defeat Glazkov.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 11:54
by Lennox
Glazkov to win on points

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 11:56
by jockpunk
I have gone back and forth on this one. When the fight was first made I thought glazkov would win. the more I thought about it I started to change my pick to martin. More often then not my first impression is correct. So I will probably bet on Martin and then Glazkov will make him look like the amateur he is.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 12:21
by asdfjkl
I expect Glazkov to win on points, he can't KO, but he's a really really smart boxer.

I don't know Martin that well, but Americans usually try to KO all the time and don't care about winning rounds.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 13:13
by Tony1244
actjac wrote:This is a good heavyweight contender bout....but is so phony to call it a title fight (just another money grab by an alphabet organization). Martin will defeat Glazkov.

Agree 100% that this shouldn't be considered a title fight. There is only 1 real HW Champion and his name is Tyson Fury. I'm a bigger Wilder fan than I am a Fury fan so no bias here.

As much as I hate split titles and bs belts I will say this: If fights like Glaskov vs Martin, Wilder vs Spilkva and even Chagav vs Browne were not for a phony belt I don't think those guys would be fighting each other ! They'd be fighting much safer competition. So that is one good thing about multiple belts.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 15:06
by Freedom2013
Tony1244 wrote:Glaskov should have 2, maybe even 3 close decision losses. The Czar has faced better competition, but Martin has decent power, albeit against limited opposition.
Glazkov shouldn't have any losses. He's been in some close fights - I scored the Scott fight a draw, and had him winning close against Cunningham. The commentators (BJ Flores and Max Kellerman) were rooting against Glazkov in those fights.

Glazkov's lack of power is a disappointment, although he has better skills and appears to be in better physical condition than Martin, who has an advantage in power, height and reach.

Shabranskyy a light heavyweight was able to twice knock down and then stop Garrett Wilson, Glazkov never had him down or even hurt even though he was landing flush every round. What does that tell us about Glazkov's power?

I'm thinking either KO win for Martin in the early to middle rounds, or a decision win (or late TKO after Martin tires) for Glazkov.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 16:24
by Tony1244
Freedom2013 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Glaskov should have 2, maybe even 3 close decision losses. The Czar has faced better competition, but Martin has decent power, albeit against limited opposition.
Glazkov shouldn't have any losses. He's been in some close fights - I scored the Scott fight a draw, and had him winning close against Cunningham. The commentators (BJ Flores and Max Kellerman) were rooting against Glazkov in those fights.

Glazkov's lack of power is a disappointment, although he has better skills and appears to be in better physical condition than Martin, who has an advantage in power, height and reach.

Shabranskyy a light heavyweight was able to twice knock down and then stop Garrett Wilson, Glazkov never had him down or even hurt even though he was landing flush every round. What does that tell us about Glazkov's power?

I'm thinking either KO win for Martin in the early to middle rounds, or a decision win (or late TKO after Martin tires) for Glazkov.
I had Glaskov beating Scott and Cunnigham by a round or 2. I think I had Glaskov and Rossy a draw if I remember correctly. All those fights were close and Martin hasn't fought anyone nearly as good as those 3 guys which explains why boxrec doesn't rate him in the top 40. I'll predict an 8 round TKO win for Martin, but it's hard to say as Martin's competition has been subpar and Glaskov is not a puncher as you alluded to.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 17:14
by pound per pound
Not to be overly negative, but having Wilder, Szpilka, Martin and Glazkov all fighting for two major world title belts is a low point for heavyweight boxing. At best one of these guys is a mandatory type of opponent. But this is heavyweight boxing post-Wlad's defeat at age 39. Get used to it!

I'd pick Povetkin or Kong Ortiz over all four of them and Parker and Joshua are the young guns with much better potential.

Martin only has gone 10 rounds once, and 6 rounds another time. His ring record is very padded and he has no " best win ". Unless he gets an early stoppage, I think the moderately skilled, but tough and game Glaskov will win on points.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 18:04
by hurricanemitch14
Tony1244 wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Glaskov should have 2, maybe even 3 close decision losses. The Czar has faced better competition, but Martin has decent power, albeit against limited opposition.
Glazkov shouldn't have any losses. He's been in some close fights - I scored the Scott fight a draw, and had him winning close against Cunningham. The commentators (BJ Flores and Max Kellerman) were rooting against Glazkov in those fights.

Glazkov's lack of power is a disappointment, although he has better skills and appears to be in better physical condition than Martin, who has an advantage in power, height and reach.

Shabranskyy a light heavyweight was able to twice knock down and then stop Garrett Wilson, Glazkov never had him down or even hurt even though he was landing flush every round. What does that tell us about Glazkov's power?

I'm thinking either KO win for Martin in the early to middle rounds, or a decision win (or late TKO after Martin tires) for Glazkov.
I had Glaskov beating Scott and Cunnigham by a round or 2. I think I had Glaskov and Rossy a draw if I remember correctly. All those fights were close and Martin hasn't fought anyone nearly as good as those 3 guys which explains why boxrec doesn't rate him in the top 40. I'll predict an 8 round TKO win for Martin, but it's hard to say as Martin's competition has been subpar and Glaskov is not a puncher as you alluded to.
Martin ko'd Joey D who handily beat Rossy. He also ko'd undefeated Glendy Hernandez and Alexander Flores. Tho both haven't planned out both fights were 50/50 fights at the time. Point being he hasn't been pampered.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 20:43
by Like a Boss
Truly a pickem fight this one. Could go either way.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 15 Jan 2016, 23:32
by Badhusker
I have not even seen Martin, but would bet he will beat Glazkov easily. The one time I saw Glazkov, he was not impressive.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 00:31
by pugilisticprofessor
He was the only guy to ever stop Joey, not a easy feat, also has some good wins, Martin has been on my radar for some time, knew he would be a champ just wish he would do it the old fashioned way and not this bogus shit

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 02:07
by Tarkus
With his crude technique and luck of experience Martin should be an easy work for Glazkov. And way he leaves his chin up it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Martin gets knocked out even by a non puncher like Glazkov. Only thing martin has going for him in this fight is size and power. Which means that Glazkov will stay safety first. I am expecting wide point win or late stoppage for Glazkov.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 05:43
by badkatt
glasvkov its gonna get knocked out bady around rd 8

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 08:18
by lefty
pound per pound wrote:Not to be overly negative, but having Wilder, Szpilka, Martin and Glazkov all fighting for two major world title belts is a low point for heavyweight boxing. At best one of these guys is a mandatory type of opponent. But this is heavyweight boxing post-Wlad's defeat at age 39. Get used to it!

I'd pick Povetkin or Kong Ortiz over all four of them and Parker and Joshua are the young guns with much better potential.

Martin only has gone 10 rounds once, and 6 rounds another time. His ring record is very padded and he has no " best win ". Unless he gets an early stoppage, I think the moderately skilled, but tough and game Glaskov will win on points.
The fact that he was fighting Tom Dallas only a few fights ago and is now fighting for a vacant IBF strap is utterly bizarre to me. It's a big jump in competition from what he's been fighting! Saying that though, I think he does have some raw potential. Raw being the operative word because of his late start in boxing.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 15:46
by PredatorHayds
I fancy Glaskov by unanimous points. Around the 116-112 mark.
I also have him undefeated as I had him just scraping his close fights.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 15:56
by Lennox
Badhusker wrote:I have not even seen Martin, but would bet he will beat Glazkov easily. The one time I saw Glazkov, he was not impressive.
I will bet you

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 16:10
by Tony1244
pound per pound wrote:Not to be overly negative, but having Wilder, Szpilka, Martin and Glazkov all fighting for two major world title belts is a low point for heavyweight boxing. At best one of these guys is a mandatory type of opponent. But this is heavyweight boxing post-Wlad's defeat at age 39. Get used to it!

I'd pick Povetkin or Kong Ortiz over all four of them and Parker and Joshua are the young guns with much better potential.

Martin only has gone 10 rounds once, and 6 rounds another time. His ring record is very padded and he has no " best win ". Unless he gets an early stoppage, I think the moderately skilled, but tough and game Glaskov will win on points.

My mind game is I just don't think of these as title fights. I see them as good potentially competitive match ups, especially Glaskov-Martin. You may be right in picking Ortiz and Povetkin over these 4, but the important thing to me is that Martin and Wilder are finally stepping up in competition tonight, just like Ortiz did when he finally stepped up from fighting nobodies and beat Jennings.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 16:14
by crusader
Tony1244 wrote:
pound per pound wrote:Not to be overly negative, but having Wilder, Szpilka, Martin and Glazkov all fighting for two major world title belts is a low point for heavyweight boxing. At best one of these guys is a mandatory type of opponent. But this is heavyweight boxing post-Wlad's defeat at age 39. Get used to it!

I'd pick Povetkin or Kong Ortiz over all four of them and Parker and Joshua are the young guns with much better potential.

Martin only has gone 10 rounds once, and 6 rounds another time. His ring record is very padded and he has no " best win ". Unless he gets an early stoppage, I think the moderately skilled, but tough and game Glaskov will win on points.

My mind game is I just don't think of these as title fights. I see them as good potentially competitive match ups, especially Glaskov-Martin. You may be right in picking Ortiz and Povetkin over these 4, but the important thing to me is that Martin and Wilder are finally stepping up in competition tonight, just like Ortiz did when he finally stepped up from fighting nobodies and beat Jennings.
Artur was outclassed and stopped by Jennings, his best win is over a shot Adamek who had just been clearly beaten by a guy you think will get stopped in 8 tonight, since that time he's only beaten nobodies, and of course he was dropped thrice by Mike Mollo.

You consider him a step up for Wilder?

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 16:49
by Freedom2013
Glazkov-Martin and Szpilka-Wilder free and legal live stream on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvEtHtCQAc

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 17:07
by Tony1244
crusader wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
pound per pound wrote:Not to be overly negative, but having Wilder, Szpilka, Martin and Glazkov all fighting for two major world title belts is a low point for heavyweight boxing. At best one of these guys is a mandatory type of opponent. But this is heavyweight boxing post-Wlad's defeat at age 39. Get used to it!

I'd pick Povetkin or Kong Ortiz over all four of them and Parker and Joshua are the young guns with much better potential.

Martin only has gone 10 rounds once, and 6 rounds another time. His ring record is very padded and he has no " best win ". Unless he gets an early stoppage, I think the moderately skilled, but tough and game Glaskov will win on points.

My mind game is I just don't think of these as title fights. I see them as good potentially competitive match ups, especially Glaskov-Martin. You may be right in picking Ortiz and Povetkin over these 4, but the important thing to me is that Martin and Wilder are finally stepping up in competition tonight, just like Ortiz did when he finally stepped up from fighting nobodies and beat Jennings.
Artur was outclassed and stopped by Jennings, his best win is over a shot Adamek who had just been clearly beaten by a guy you think will get stopped in 8 tonight, since that time he's only beaten nobodies, and of course he was dropped thrice by Mike Mollo.

You consider him a step up for Wilder?
Spilkva is Wilders second best or best opponent IMO. Martin is certainly fighting his best opponent tonight, so fairly competitive fights.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 18:42
by armageto
I like Martin by stoppage here. He might be raw, but I see potential in him. I don't see how anyone thinks Glaskov is in reality undefeated. If you thought he won all of the Scott, Rossy, and USS fights, I'm not sure what your scoring criteria is. Even in the Adamek fight (Which I thought the scores were closer), he appeared out of gas near the end of the fight with Adamek getting back into the contest.

I'm not suggesting that Martin has faced the greatest of opponents, but Flores, Hernandez, and Thompson were all undefeated when he fought them. He stopped a durable Dawjeko. He stopped a tough competitor Love. He has good size, power and a better skill set than some people are giving him credit for. I talked to one of his opponents in what he thought of him and he told me "Very technical good skills. Ok puncher, moves well, great reach".

I'll go Martin KO 7.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 19:03
by Tarkus
Scott and Cunningham fights were very close. Both technically advanced fighters, head and shoulder above Martin. Martin cant box.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 19:10
by armageto
Tarkus wrote:Scott and Cunningham fights were very close. Both technically advanced fighters, head and shoulder above Martin. Martin cant box.
Agree they are better technically than Martin, but what about Rossy? Also, none of those three guys in debatable fights has anything close to power.