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How do you see this going?
I'm not so interested in how you think the result will play out but more how they will approach it stylistically?

Who do you think fights of the back foot and who does the pursuing? Who's leading and who's counterpunching? Who dictates the pace and terms of the fight? Would one abandon his usual style and adapt to work the other out? Is there a fighter more likely to take the early rounds/late rounds? Who pinches the close rounds with the eye catching stuff?
Is there any chance of a stoppage win? If it goes to points, is it wide, close or controversial? What do the punch stats look like? Is the fast accurate punching displayed by either man the key to this or both mens good evasive movement and excellent reflexes?
Does Sweet pea control it with the southpaw jab or can Floyd, as he has done so often against lefty's, find the straight right lead through the guard to deter him.

How significant a factor is weight and age? Would a younger Lightweight Floyd/Pernell have the advantage, does a 30 something welterweight version of either hold the upper hand? And would it be as dull and technical and affair as some might expect or would they surprise most and have a bit of a tear up?

And how many PPV buys does it do

Both two of the greatest defensive boxers of all time. I think Mayweather has more skill and consistency in the offensive department, and he likes to lead with straight right hands. Straight right hands are often the kryptonite of Southpaws as Whitaker is. So for that reason I'd have to favor Mayweather to squeak out a close decision win.

Whitaker would lead behind the jab. He never had any issue with pressing the fight in his prime.

LOL @ Mayweather being more skilled offensively.

King Carlos wrote:Whitaker would lead behind the jab. He never had any issue with pressing the fight in his prime.

LOL @ Mayweather being more skilled offensively.

What would you say are the best fights to show Whitaker's offensive skills?

The Revival wrote:

King Carlos wrote:Whitaker would lead behind the jab. He never had any issue with pressing the fight in his prime.

LOL @ Mayweather being more skilled offensively.

What would you say are the best fights to show Whitaker's offensive skills?

McGirt I and II, Brazier, Jones, Ramirez II, Pineda, Pendleton, etc. Pretty much any fight from his prime years (1989 to 1994), really.

Whitaker threw between 80 to 100 punches a round. Great body puncher, much more aggressive. Floyd could potentially catch pea with a flash kd or two, but I gotta go Pernell by decision based on his more aggressive nature.

I think this would either be the dullest fight of all time, or the fight where the highest level of skill was ever seen.

I can't really call this one, although saadoffthedeck made a great point about Whitaker's more effective aggression.

great fight for aficionados to watch. no idea
how it would go. i do think floyd can have
trouble with intelligent boxers like pernell.
i do not see one dominating this fight.

The fight would have been very boring. It would have been close, Whitaker would have deserved the decison, who knows if he would have got it.
Of course there is no way that Mayweather would have taken the fight anywhere near Whitaker's prime.

lol....put Saad's statement together with Alp's and you have my thinking.


Whitaker deserving the win, Floyd possibly able to turn it into a draw at best. But he has to stink the place up to do it.


If they both go in to "win" it becomes that celebration of phenomenal and openly displayed skill that syntax mentioned.



Oh and Whitaker pulls Pretty boys shorts down down to his ankles at least once during the fight.

I tried to write a reply to my own post but every time I thought of what one man did effectively, I thought of how the other might counter it.

I do think that the slightly more aggressive version of Mayweather in his younger years would have been picked off, controlled and outboxed by a prime lightweight Whitaker. I suspect this would be the more entertaining fight to watch (any Floyd loss would be entertaining, let's be honest) Maybe even seeing Floyd on the seat of his pant in a flash knockdown. 117-112

But as they aged I lean more toward Mayweather if fought at welterweight.
Unlike many who rated Mayweather better when he was younger and lighter, I thought as his career progressed he perfected his art, yes he got better at hand picking his opponents, but there have been some punch perfect performances in his 30's
I also think his style adjusted and he became a smarter fighter, who may have punch picked his way to a narrow points win.
I see him approaching it as the front foot counter puncher and landing the snapping right hand effectively through the middle, I mentioned this in the OP as I've seen few fighter more effective with this against south paws than Floyd. I also think he had the hand speed to whip the the odd left hook round a Whitaker jab. Whitaker would be far from out classed and keep it close.
116-114 with a couple 10-10 rounds and nothing very clear cut or easy to score. This goes to a rematch

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Is this in reference to the interesting nature of this thread or the potential excitement of the fight

Ambling Alp II wrote:The fight would have been very boring. It would have been close, Whitaker would have deserved the decison, who knows if he would have got it.
Of course there is no way that Mayweather would have taken the fight anywhere near Whitaker's prime.

Same as this, Mayweather for me.

Of course Mayweather would have taken the fight, especially of the money was there. Honestly, can anybody name fighter Mayweather has ducked?

Of course not because he's fought everyone. I'm not saying Mayweather would have won. And yes I'd be pulling for Sweet Pea.

for starters, he could have fought Pacquiao several years ago when he still had something left. Also could have taken on Marquez earlier. He waited until he knew they were all but shot.

He never had a win in his career against anyone anywhere close to beating a prime Whitaker.

Floyd and Manny were equally to blame. The first time they didn't meet because Manny wouldn't take drug tests. Like Leonard, Floyd sometimes looked for edges. The biggest stars always do. If he was the ducker many claim he wouldn't have immediately rematched Castillo.

- Well, boys, here's how it goes when Pea is allowed the same TUE vitamins and USADA sponsored enhancement programs:

Prime Pea wouldn't even care about the MGM Floyd ref and judges, he'd do what he did to bigger, stronger Uncle Roger by clowning him silly, knocking him down, then a strategic low blow before pulling his trunks down and making him cry for his daddy. Then when Uncle Rog stormed the ring to create a riot, Pea'd give him a quick replay of their first fight.

Of course TUE still gets the decision, gotta keep all them big Vegas players happy, but we'd all know it was the big bad boss Sweetpea who whupped the bawling baby a new one. Put it in your playstations for some good comedy relief, that's the ticket.

demetrios3 wrote:Of course Mayweather would have taken the fight, especially of the money was there. Honestly, can anybody name fighter Mayweather has ducked?

Of course not because he's fought everyone. I'm not saying Mayweather would have won. And yes I'd be pulling for Sweet Pea.

Don't even go there, please.
Stay on topic

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd and Manny were equally to blame. The first time they didn't meet because Manny wouldn't take drug tests. Like Leonard, Floyd sometimes looked for edges. The biggest stars always do. If he was the ducker many claim he wouldn't have immediately rematched Castillo.

No, please Saad, don't turn this into one of these threads.
This is why everyone is wary of even mentioning his feckin name.
Let's leave the "why Floyd vs Manny didn't happen earlier" chat to the CS guys.

I brought it up? Lmao

There are in two different classes. Whitaker is an all time great.

Mayweather never had the opportunity to really face an equal.....but I don't think he would have beaten JCC.....and a few others that Sweet P clowned along the way.

If this was Jeopardy....it would go something like this....
ANSWER IS:.........Who is Pernell Whitaker?

Hard to imagine a scenario where Chavez beats Floyd.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Hard to imagine a scenario where Chavez beats Floyd.

Yeah I don't see it either.

Yeah, OK...perhaps I went overboard, and was imagining it at Super Feather, where JCC would be in his prime, and Floyd would be a bit inexperienced.

Probably could not manage it at WW.

I was thinking kinda sorta of the Ramirez JCC vs the Castillo Mayweather........

Super feather would be the worst division for Chavez. That's Floyd at his best, Chavez was better at 35 & 40. The dude that went life and death with lockridge and laporte gets scalped by Floyd.