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handsofstone wrote:It doesnt seem that long ago Garcia was just a young pup coming through fighting on all the big undercards,apart from the Theophane performance he always impressed me,i was looking through his record just there

In 31 fights he's beaten

Campbell
Holt
Morales twice
Judah
Khan
Peterson
Malignaggi
Matthysse

Even at this short stage of his career thats gotta be up there for wins against titlists and if he beats Guerrero thats another 1

And if there is a God then Theophane will steamroll Broner

stujones wrote:A match between, if you ask me, one of the more overated champions and one of the more underated fighters.

handsofstone wrote:I had Garcia wiining wide but ive got to take my hat off to Guerrero for making Danny work for it,i never knew he had it in him anymore

Im stumped as to why people had this close,i thought Garcia boxed excellently for the most part,he was going going for the KO at one point but then seemed content for a points win and took his foot off the gas

stujones wrote:Hi Davie,

I meant over the course of his career Guerrero has been underated. Even though he has been a multi weight world champion, he used to get overlooked when he was a Lightweight.

With regards to Garcia, I meant overated by those who think he is top 10 P4P fighter, particularly the higher echelons of the top 10. Personally, I see more people who think he is that, compared to those who think he is some b grade champion.... he is somewhere inbetween if you ask me.

crusader wrote:Danny is in my top ten P4P, but I can understand the cherry-picker label why some people don't rate him particularly high even though his resume features several notable opponents. If you look beyond just the names and consider how good those people actually were when he fought them, as well the nature of his performances in those bouts, his accomplishments aren't as impressive in my opinion.

Guerrero: Struggled greatly with Aaron Martinez, who was easily defeated last night by Sammy Vasquez, one fight before and went limp and down even though Martinez only has 4 stoppages in 26 fights. Before that Guerrero took ample punishment in hardly winning a round against Thurman, and since facing Mayweather has looked like a washed up fighter (also note the war with mediocre Kamegai). Given this I don't think the manner of Garcia's win over Guerrero, and I had it closer than HOS did, is impressive.

Paulie: Hadn't fought in 15 months and in that fight was blown out in 4 by Shawn Porter.

Peterson: Clearly not washed up like some of the others, but Garcia did not look good in winning by MD here, and at times over the second half was getting busted up by a guy who is good but nothing special (I don't think he's better now than he was when Bradley 120-107'd him).

Herrera: A good fighter who had solid results post-Garcia despite losing to Mayfield and Alvarado a few bouts prior to facing Danny. Still, not showing from Garcia that helps his P4P standing given that many people reasonably thought Herrera won the fight, and I suspect that this bout in particular is seen by many as hurting Danny's P4P standing. Try to imagine how less highly regarded someone like Kovalev would be if the common view was that he lost to Hopkins and his nose had been gushing blood in the process.

Judah: Two fights before was outclassed and stopped in 5 by Khan, but still managed to give Danny hell in the second half and hurt him.

Holt: Dominated and stopped a year earlier by Kazier Mabuza

I'm not going to knock Garcia's wins over Lucas or Khan, but I can see why he is commonly called a cherry-picker and why some people are reluctant to include him with the P4P elite.