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No, he won't.

The WBC does whatever their master Al Haymon wants.

In the past, Sulaiman's father did whatever his master Don King wanted. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Matters who he choses next, the normal rule is that he needs to fight his mandatory within 1,5 year after catching the belt, that moment is allmost there, somehow I've heard that when he fights someone who carries another belt he's allowed to ignore his mandatory, but I'm not a 100% sure up till what point.

Somehow it's really sad if you avoid your mandatory, especially with the belt he carries.
Klitschko mainly fought the best opponends out there during his years, Wilder even avoided him for a long long time saying he wanted to wait and wait because time was on his side. Meanwhile others overtook Wilder actually.

asdfjkl wrote:Matters who he choses next, the normal rule is that he needs to fight his mandatory within 1,5 year after catching the belt, that moment is allmost there, somehow I've heard that when he fights someone who carries another belt he's allowed to ignore his mandatory, but I'm not a 100% sure up till what point.

Somehow it's really sad if you avoid your mandatory, especially with the belt he carries.
Klitschko mainly fought the best opponends out there during his years, Wilder even avoided him for a long long time saying he wanted to wait and wait because time was on his side. Meanwhile others overtook Wilder actually.

It has been 1 full year since he won the belt.
If his next but is not Povetkin I will be extremely disappointed.
I have defended his right to wait a year and make as much money as possible. If povetkin is not next I will call it a duck

People are saying he can avoid his mandatory for his next fight if he he fights a unification bout. So with Martin holding a title, he'll be desperate to make that match up as soon as possible.

This in itslef is a bit of a piss take as he has already squeezed in an additional voluntary defence against Szpilka.

But does anyone know if he still has to face Povetkin directly after a unification fight or does a unification bout effectively reset the clock on mandatories and buy him another year and/or 3 fights before he has to face him?

I hope Wilder fights Martin
and then Fury
Fury get's all the belts and the IBF strips him again.

But for a moment in time we'll have an undisputed champ again.

And then Joshua or some goofy somebody will KO Fury and it'll all go back to hell.

it is povetkin who said he wouldn't be ready until may, not wilder.
if wilder ktfo povetkin, will retards stop accusing him of ducking povetkin?
no, they won't. it's only january. if the povetkin fight was delayed only a
month, that would probably give wilder enough time for an early april
unification with martin and then povetkin in late june or maybe july 4
weekend, or if povetkin was moved up to april, the martin fight could be
this summer or september at the latest.

In a perfect world, yes he would lose his belt. However, I doubt that would happen, although he does seem willing to face Povetkin. If he faces anyone else next, there's no doubt that he is ducking Povetkin. I don't think that's going to happen, but if it does I will finally stop giving Wilder a pass for his weak opposition.

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Maybe, maybe not. Depends who's checkbook shows more commas to the World Boxing Cartel.

I believe that Wilder vs Povetkin will happen when they are in the same ring and the bell rings for round one.

Povetkin is opponent that Wilder/Haymon wants to avoid at all costs. They know that loosing the fight is more likely than winning it. They would be happy making few more millions by feeding him more bums. If fighting Martin would let them avoid Povetkin I think that will happen.

I believe the plan was to match Wilder with good ranked Glazkov, for two belts. At this way Wilder could avoid Povetkin (he really has nothing to gain from this fight) and well market his fight vs Glazkov.

But Glazkov lost/retired, Martin (HTF???) has the IBF belt. Wilder vs Martin cannot be marketed well, and ducking Povetkin at this case will look bad.
Anyhow, Wilder vs Povetkin will bring more money than Wilder vs Martin, so they negotiate. The Martin's option is a card against Povetkin's team goal to bring the fight to Moscow...

sucracristo wrote:it is povetkin who said he wouldn't be ready until may, not wilder.
if wilder ktfo povetkin, will retards stop accusing him of ducking povetkin?
no, they won't. it's only january. if the povetkin fight was delayed only a
month, that would probably give wilder enough time for an early april
unification with martin and then povetkin in late june or maybe july 4
weekend, or if povetkin was moved up to april, the martin fight could be
this summer or september at the latest.

It was Wilder who said he didn't want to fight Povetkin in september, because he prefered to fight Duhaupas instead. Povetkin isn't the kind of guy that let someone else controll his schedule, belt or no belt.

asdfjkl wrote: It was Wilder who said he didn't want to fight Povetkin in september, because he prefered to fight Duhaupas instead. Povetkin isn't the kind of guy that let someone else controll his schedule, belt or no belt.

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5708-m ... ry-defense
"WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has informed WBN that Alexander Povetkin’s
request to delay his world title challenge was the reason behind another voluntary
being granted to current champion Deontay Wilder."

sucracristo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: It was Wilder who said he didn't want to fight Povetkin in september, because he prefered to fight Duhaupas instead. Povetkin isn't the kind of guy that let someone else controll his schedule, belt or no belt.

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5708-m ... ry-defense
"WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has informed WBN that Alexander Povetkin’s
request to delay his world title challenge was the reason behind another voluntary
being granted to current champion Deontay Wilder."

Povetkin said before the Duhaupas fight he was ready for Wilder, but Wilder and his team prefered to fight Duhaupas instead, then Povetkin and his team said, that's allright, then we'll try to find some other opponend for around september and we'll fight you next year around april. Right after the Duhaupas fight Wilder suddenly challenged the entire world, including Klitschko, including Fury, including Povetkin who already said he was planning to fight around April instead of januari, including Anthony Joshua right after AJ said he wasn't planning to fight for the world titles early 2016.

So yes, if you asked Povetkin after the Duhaupas fight if he wanted to fight in januari his answer is no, and Wilder and his team knew that even before the Duhaupas fight, it was Wilder and his team who could chose between Duhaupas or Povetkin, they chose Duhaupas and then Povetkin moved on and chose Wach because he was about Wilder his size and people claimed Povetkin couldn't fight tall boxers.

asdfjkl wrote: Povetkin and his team said, that's allright, then we'll try to find some other opponend for around september and we'll fight you next year around april.

is it april, yet? look at the bottom right of your screen to see what month it is.

so does wilder get stripped by the wbc if he does not fight povetkin next ?

Only if Wilder chooses not to fight Povetkin next.

sucracristo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Povetkin and his team said, that's allright, then we'll try to find some other opponend for around september and we'll fight you next year around april.

is it april, yet? look at the bottom right of your screen to see what month it is.

Yes, everything got delayed even more thanks to Wilder and his team, neither fight eventually happened in september, but in october and november, so april very very most likely won't happen either. Wilder and his team are a joke, I wouldn't even be surpriced if they lost against Martin, , sign a contraxt to fight again and simply wait another 1,5 year. In the beginning they even asked the 19 year old hughie Fury on 4 weeks notice, correct me if I'm wrong.

asdfjkl wrote:

sucracristo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Povetkin and his team said, that's allright, then we'll try to find some other opponend for around september and we'll fight you next year around april.

is it april, yet? look at the bottom right of your screen to see what month it is.

Yes, everything got delayed even more thanks to Wilder and his team, neither fight eventually happened in september, but in october and november, so april very very most likely won't happen either. Wilder and his team are a joke, I wouldn't even be surpriced if they lost against Martin, , sign a contraxt to fight again and simply wait another 1,5 year. In the beginning they even asked the 19 year old hughie Fury on 4 weeks notice, correct me if I'm wrong.

Wilder did fight in September. Hughie Fury had 7 weeks notice, not 4. Want me to correct your spelling too?

I was wrong, it was 3 days short of 8 weeks, not 7 weeks. I guess they wanted a full 8 weeks.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/08/hug ... s-peter-f/

Badhusker wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

sucracristo wrote:
is it april, yet? look at the bottom right of your screen to see what month it is.

Yes, everything got delayed even more thanks to Wilder and his team, neither fight eventually happened in september, but in october and november, so april very very most likely won't happen either. Wilder and his team are a joke, I wouldn't even be surpriced if they lost against Martin, , sign a contraxt to fight again and simply wait another 1,5 year. In the beginning they even asked the 19 year old hughie Fury on 4 weeks notice, correct me if I'm wrong.

Wilder did fight in September. Hughie Fury had 7 weeks notice, not 4. Want me to correct your spelling too?

I was wrong, it was 3 days short of 8 weeks, not 7 weeks. I guess they wanted a full 8 weeks.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/08/hug ... s-peter-f/

Go ahead, I know my spelling is horreble, I've never been in any English speaking country in my life, so everything I know I know from television or the internet, it's not like I ever speak the language, but I know you probably won't understand Dutch, so I try anyway.

And oh wow, "the champion of the world" dares to ask the 19 year old out of shape little cousin of Tyson Fury to come to America all on his own and fight there against him while the rest of the family stays busy with the Tyson Wladimir fight! That's amazing, wow, Wilder really showed some balls there!
Oh and guess what? They even said he would be ready in 8 weeks, but no, let's simply not give him that time and act like it was the 19 year old who ducked Wilder instead of the other way around!

Wilder ducked every good opponend time on time again, the first 5 months after the Stiverne fight he would probably have lost against Shannon Briggs.

IS-NOT possible to bring a representative of the W.B.C. onto this stream??

asdfjkl wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Yes, everything got delayed even more thanks to Wilder and his team, neither fight eventually happened in september, but in october and november, so april very very most likely won't happen either. Wilder and his team are a joke, I wouldn't even be surpriced if they lost against Martin, , sign a contraxt to fight again and simply wait another 1,5 year. In the beginning they even asked the 19 year old hughie Fury on 4 weeks notice, correct me if I'm wrong.

Wilder did fight in September. Hughie Fury had 7 weeks notice, not 4. Want me to correct your spelling too?

I was wrong, it was 3 days short of 8 weeks, not 7 weeks. I guess they wanted a full 8 weeks.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/08/hug ... s-peter-f/

Go ahead, I know my spelling is horreble, I've never been in any English speaking country in my life, so everything I know I know from television or the internet, it's not like I ever speak the language, but I know you probably won't understand Dutch, so I try anyway.

And oh wow, "the champion of the world" dares to ask the 19 year old out of shape little cousin of Tyson Fury to come to America all on his own and fight there against him while the rest of the family stays busy with the Tyson Wladimir fight! That's amazing, wow, Wilder really showed some balls there!
Oh and guess what? They even said he would be ready in 8 weeks, but no, let's simply not give him that time and act like it was the 19 year old who ducked Wilder instead of the other way around!

Wilder ducked every good opponend time on time again, the first 5 months after the Stiverne fight he would probably have lost against Shannon Briggs.

^ ^ badhusker, your English NOT BAD! When that March does happen,, be worth LOT OF BANANA'S!

ImranSarwar wrote:^ ^ badhusker, your English NOT BAD! When that March does happen,, be worth LOT OF BANANA'S!

I look forward to Wilder winning or losing against the top guys at heavy. Personally I don't care if he wins or not, but want to see the fights. Some people here seem to hate to see a new guy in the mix be successful. A guy like Joshua, who I am very high on, is an excellent prospect that could be great....but I hope they don't push him too much, too soon.

Wilder has had his voluntary defences. If the word MANDATORY means anything to the WBC they have to pressure him to fight Povetkin next. No more softies. If he or his team refuses to defend against Povetkin then he is a fraud as champion and should be stripped of his belt.