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Alexander Povetkin and his promoter are doing all they can to make the fight with Wilder, but trainer/co-manager Jay Deas has little faith in Wilder for some reason and wants to continue to avoid Povetkin.

Of course, to save face, they'll repeat the usual lie that it's Povetkin avoiding Wilder. But they can't fool people forever.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/01/ ... s-welcomed

Are you sure it isn't Povetkin delaying his title shot?

It wouldn't be the first time he's done it.

Horse wrote:Are you sure it isn't Povetkin delaying his title shot?

It wouldn't be the first time he's done it.

Trust me, Povetkin wants the fight. The truth is, Povetkin has never delayed it despite what they say. Wilder has demanded three voluntaries before fighting Povetkin.

In the past, Povetkin was with Sauerland and was trained for awhile by Teddy Atlas, both of whom dislike the Klitschkos. Once Povetkin got away from Sauerland, his current promoter Andrei Ryabinski, one of the classiest people in the sport, made the fight with Klitschko.

Ryabinski and Povetkin want to fight Wilder ASAP. Jay Deas is just trying to save face, he sees a weakness in Wilder and has always tried as to keep his cash cow away from the best HWs.

Wilder reminds me a lot of the HW boxer in the old movie The Harder They Fall.

Freedom2013 wrote:

Horse wrote:Are you sure it isn't Povetkin delaying his title shot?

It wouldn't be the first time he's done it.

Trust me, Povetkin wants the fight. The truth is, Povetkin has never delayed it despite what they say. Wilder has demanded three voluntaries before fighting Povetkin.
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Lol why should we trust you? You don't know shit.

jockpunk wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:

Horse wrote:Are you sure it isn't Povetkin delaying his title shot?

It wouldn't be the first time he's done it.

Trust me, Povetkin wants the fight. The truth is, Povetkin has never delayed it despite what they say. Wilder has demanded three voluntaries before fighting Povetkin.
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Lol why should we trust you? You don't know poo.

Trust him, he knows about fighters with ****, he follows anyone of his ***** with a religious fervor. He's right this time and Wilder will probably get exposed by Martin (who actually has better boxing skills) should they make the fight, of course this would mean another duck of Povetkin by Deontay.

As much as I hate to agree with Freedom, of Povetkin and Wilder, who has actually fought a slew of top guys and who has built their entire career on C raters? Wilder made one step up to the top 10 vs Stiverne and promptly left it after winning his paper belt.

Horse wrote:Are you sure it isn't Povetkin delaying his title shot?

It wouldn't be the first time he's done it.

...come to think of it, Povetkin is 36...what's the point in delaying?..it's now or never...

We are confused here. Jay Deas made an announcement before Szpika got the deal that Povetkin was not ready for the fight yet. After the fight with Szpika Povetkin proclaimed he wants tp fight Wilder the NEXT!!!

Now what's the barrier?? Now both sides got enough time to prepare the fight. LET'S GET THE FIGHT STARTED!!

dempseyfire wrote:As much as I hate to agree with Freedom, of Povetkin and Wilder, who has actually fought a slew of top guys and who has built their entire career on C raters? Wilder made one step up to the top 10 vs Stiverne and promptly left it after winning his paper belt.

Wilder has been steadily improving his record over recent years and Duhaupas and Szpilka are both about as good as Stiverne.

Horse wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:As much as I hate to agree with Freedom, of Povetkin and Wilder, who has actually fought a slew of top guys and who has built their entire career on C raters? Wilder made one step up to the top 10 vs Stiverne and promptly left it after winning his paper belt.

Wilder has been steadily improving his record over recent years and Duhaupas and Szpilka are both about as good as Stiverne.

I don't agree. Szpilka went life and death vs a past-it Don King retread (Mike Mollo) and got knocked out by Jennings. He is an ESPN2 calibre fighter. Duhaupas is tough but Euro-level. Stiverne is not great but he was a legitimate top 10 with knockout power and an impressive AM background.

Povetkin is ducking again like he did against Wlad . He defended his paper WBA belt against bums like old washed up Rahman and he was ducking Wladimir and Tyson Fury for years.

dempseyfire wrote:I don't agree. Szpilka went life and death vs a past-it Don King retread (Mike Mollo) and got knocked out by Jennings. He is an ESPN2 calibre fighter. Duhaupas is tough but Euro-level. Stiverne is not great but he was a legitimate top 10 with knockout power and an impressive AM background.

I think Szpilka and Duhaupas would both have a very good chance of beating Stiverne.

They are all at about the same level in my opinion.

conty22 wrote:Povetkin is ducking again like he did against Wlad . He defended his paper WBA belt against bums like old washed up Rahman and he was ducking Wladimir and Tyson Fury for years.

I don't think Fury was ever chasing Povetkin was he?

And defiently see wilder fighting martin next.

Horse wrote:

conty22 wrote:Povetkin is ducking again like he did against Wlad . He defended his paper WBA belt against bums like old washed up Rahman and he was ducking Wladimir and Tyson Fury for years.

I don't think Fury was ever chasing Povetkin was he?

“Do you really think Alexander Povetkin is going to fight me? We’ve offered him the fight about 10 times on 10 different dates. His promoter, the Sauerland Brothers know me when I was in my early days in the gyms in Berlin smashing the likes of Helenius’ and Pianeta’s, all them stiff guys from Europe. They’d never risk their golden ticket on me,” explained Fury.

Fury also feels Povetkin has one foot out the door of the boxing game.

“He’s already talking about retirement and he’s got a paper title. So you know when you’re talking about retirement and you haven’t accomplished anything, you better get out because this fighting game isn’t for you.”

http://thaboxingvoice.com/tyson-fury-la ... ar=no/feed


Povetkin simply ducks every average tall fighter

Freedom2013 wrote: Trust me

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5708-m ... ry-defense
"WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has informed WBN that Alexander Povetkin’s
request to delay his world title challenge was the reason behind another voluntary
being granted to current champion Deontay Wilder."

sucracristo wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote: Trust me

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5708-m ... ry-defense
"WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has informed WBN that Alexander Povetkin’s
request to delay his world title challenge was the reason behind another voluntary
being granted to current champion Deontay Wilder."

You believe Sulaiman? He'll say what ever his boss Al Haymon wants.

And Szpilka was Wilder's third voluntary, not his second.

Povetkin's team decided to stay busy against Wach after Wilder avoided him and took his second voluntary against Duhaupas. When that fight was signed, Wilder used it as an excuse to ask Sulaiman for a THIRD voluntary.

This is really starting to give credit to Fury's comments of a pro-American and anti-European bias in regard to alphabet organizations.

Fury doesn't get a single voluntary defense and Wilder has been granted 3, and may even be granted a 4th? Jesus Christ how many extensions is Wilder going to get?

As I recall he was "ordered" to defend against Povetkin over a year ago. That has not been fulfilled. At what point will the WBC enforce their rules? Is that ever going to happen or does Wilder get a permanent bypass because he is American?

What about Povetkin's right as mandatory challenger? How long does he have to wait? Is there even a point to alphabet org's having rankings if they won't enforce them?

Fury was spot on. There is a very apparent pro-American bias within the alphabet org's. Fury got zero extensions and zero slack (when the reasonable thing the IBF should have done, and Im sure would have done if Fury was American is grant him a voluntary). Wilder and Martin have both been given a tremendous amount of leeway. The bias is apparent.

Here is a little explanation of why Povetkin and Wilder have not fought. The mandatory was for a year, and the fight should have happened January 16.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-i-wan ... eup--99073

Badhusker wrote:Here is a little explanation of why Povetkin and Wilder have not fought. The mandatory was for a year, and the fight should have happened January 16.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-i-wan ... eup--99073

Haha, "My accuracy is up there with Floyd Mayweather", he landed 30% of his shots against a guy he had a 6 inch height advantage and a 7 inch reach advantage and isn't world class... Now I'll never believe anything he says, he would be a good comedian though.

Larrylefthook wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Here is a little explanation of why Povetkin and Wilder have not fought. The mandatory was for a year, and the fight should have happened January 16.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-i-wan ... eup--99073

Haha, "My accuracy is up there with Floyd Mayweather", he landed 30% of his shots against a guy he had a 6 inch height advantage and a 7 inch reach advantage and isn't world class... Now I'll never believe anything he says, he would be a good comedian though.

Wilder landed 56% vs Duhapas, (who he had less of a height and reach advantage) so his average connect rate is not far off Mayweather's I would guess. Very impressive for a heavyweight. 30% is pretty decent for a heavy. He didn't say he was in Floyd's class as a boxer, just shared a high connect %.

Badhusker wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Here is a little explanation of why Povetkin and Wilder have not fought. The mandatory was for a year, and the fight should have happened January 16.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-i-wan ... eup--99073

Haha, "My accuracy is up there with Floyd Mayweather", he landed 30% of his shots against a guy he had a 6 inch height advantage and a 7 inch reach advantage and isn't world class... Now I'll never believe anything he says, he would be a good comedian though.

Wilder landed 56% vs Duhapas, (who he had less of a height and reach advantage) so his average connect rate is not far off Mayweather's I would guess. Very impressive for a heavyweight. 30% is pretty decent for a heavy. He didn't say he was in Floyd's class as a boxer, just shared a high connect %.

He said he his accuracy is as good as Floyd's, do you really agree? Have you seen him flailing his arms around? Floyd had great accuracy against world class and elite boxers (59% against JMM) Wilder is not even in the same league as PBF (despite facing against C class opposition).

He said his accuracy is on Floyds level not his current accuracy stats.

The fans know he's not the truth that's why he only averaged 500,000 in the viewing figures, compare that to AJ who sold 400,000 PPV for a British title fight.

Larrylefthook wrote:He said he his accuracy is as good as Floyd's, do you really agree? Have you seen him flailing his arms around? Floyd had great accuracy against world class and elite boxers (59% against JMM) Wilder is not even in the same league as PBF (despite facing against C class opposition).

He said his accuracy is on Floyds level not his current accuracy stats.

The fans know he's not the truth that's why he only averaged 500,000 in the viewing figures, compare that to AJ who sold 400,000 PPV for a British title fight.

You are correct. Most boxing fans know that Anthony Joshua is the real deal, while Wilder is just a bad joke.

Freedom2013 wrote:Alexander Povetkin and his promoter are doing all they can to make the fight with Wilder, but trainer/co-manager Jay Deas has little faith in Wilder for some reason and wants to continue to avoid Povetkin.

Of course, to save face, they'll repeat the usual lie that it's Povetkin avoiding Wilder. But they can't fool people forever.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/01/ ... s-welcomed

Is anyone who will suggest Wider to fight Fury or AJ as soon as possible?????

Freedom2013 wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:He said he his accuracy is as good as Floyd's, do you really agree? Have you seen him flailing his arms around? Floyd had great accuracy against world class and elite boxers (59% against JMM) Wilder is not even in the same league as PBF (despite facing against C class opposition).

He said his accuracy is on Floyds level not his current accuracy stats.

The fans know he's not the truth that's why he only averaged 500,000 in the viewing figures, compare that to AJ who sold 400,000 PPV for a British title fight.

You are correct. Most boxing fans know that Anthony Joshua is the real deal, while Wilder is just a bad joke.

Honestly, who gives a fornicate.