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why even make a thread about ward vs kovalev. no matter what the outcome is, the outcome would be bad.

if kovalev wins, than he wins in ugly fashion, cause ward gonne hold, grab or move away as soon as there is danger. boring overall fight.

or ward wins and how would he win? by exchanging shots with kovalev? no way. he will put on his asics running shoes and bore the audience nd kovalev to death, he would run, jab, get in quick and get out quick and win by super boring ud.

so how can you be happy about this match up, when you know, no matter if kovalev or ward wins it, the result is gonne be the same, a boring fight.

You sure mean Berbatov? Yeah, great fight!

Pascal vs Chickenson in Montreal & Kovalev vs Berbatov in Moscow

Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

He is ready. Haymon isn't.

Only euros even know who Beterbiev is at this point. Casual fans have never even heard of the guy.

diddy wrote:Only euros even know who Beterbiev is at this point. Casual fans have never even heard of the guy.

stop with nonsense.....doesnt make a difference....peopleill tune in regardless and when the promo is done right and people see how good bertebiev is they gonne tune in. also there are so much other choices, like lh was filled with ppv stars

I do not want to see this fight yet. I don't want these two guys to fight each other while guys like Ward and Stevenson talk but do not fight anyone of note. Ward not at all actually. Even when you look at Ward and his resume and who he beat even in the Super Six his resume is weak and he has not beaten anyone the caliber of beterbiev or Kovalev at all. His best wins were two wins over Froch. Froch is a limited guy. Ward is just another one of these HBO fighters and is the great American hope. HBO is dying to produce anyone outside of Crawford who can be the next great American hope.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

I think he could beat Stevenson right now

The Revival wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

I think he could beat Stevenson right now

He would manhandle Chickenson, no doubt about it.

Chepppaaa wrote:

diddy wrote:Only euros even know who Beterbiev is at this point. Casual fans have never even heard of the guy.

stop with nonsense.....doesnt make a difference....peopleill tune in regardless and when the promo is done right and people see how good bertebiev is they gonne tune in. also there are so much other choices, like lh was filled with ppv stars

no they don't tune in. The ratings are shit. Figure skating drew more than Garcia/Guerrero in the same slot. So did nba countdown.

The Revival wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

I think he could beat Stevenson right now

Quite possibly, but I agree he isn't ready for Krusher. Kovalev is a really experienced and quite rounded pro now. I wouldn't pitch anyone in with him who had even the faintest tinge of green to them, which, beterbiev has had how many pro fight, like 15 or something is it, maybe a couple more?

Its kinda eery how similar the styles of beterbiyev and kovalev are.

Fucken BAD men the both of them. Beterbiyev is dagestani, they're all pretty much fucken nails around that part of the world.

I think Beterbiev is overrated. I think Kovalev knocks him out and I think Stevenson would have a good chance of doing the same.

Counter-puncher wrote:Its kinda eery how similar the styles of beterbiyev and kovalev are.

Fucken BAD men the both of them. Beterbiyev is dagestani, they're all pretty much fucken nails around that part of the world.

..he's of Chechen descent and as the saying goes "you should have made nails of them to my mind, harder nails you will never find"...

The only chink in the armor I have seen from Artur is when Jeff Page floored him and hit him a little more regularly than I thought he would. Artur dispatched of some names though and dominated them badly. Especially in his first 10 fights or so of his career.

Counter-puncher wrote:

The Revival wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

I think he could beat Stevenson right now

Quite possibly, but I agree he isn't ready for Krusher. Kovalev is a really experienced and quite rounded pro now. I wouldn't pitch anyone in with him who had even the faintest tinge of green to them, which, beterbiev has had how many pro fight, like 15 or something is it, maybe a couple more?

Beterbiev only has 9 Professional Bouts. he's 9-0, but he's already stopped 2 former Titleholders in Gabriel Campillo and Tavoris Cloud.

He stopped the CORPSES of Campillo and Cloud. Dudes were shot to pieces. He's got more to show me but I'd still put him #3 at light heavy right now.

Kovalev is more fluid and faster, beterbiev probably has more one punch power.

I think Kovalev - Ward would be a more significant fight than Kovalev - Beterbiev. Eventually Kovalev - Beterbiev will be a great fight, but for it to matter as much as it deserves to, I think first Beterbiev should get a win over Stevenson, Fonfara, Alvarez, or Pascal. For all of the innuendo that Beterbiev is better than Kovalev, he ought to do something to bring his resume into the same neighborhood as Kovalev's. Then it would be a true super fight.

diddy wrote:He stopped the CORPSES of Campillo and Cloud. Dudes were shot to pieces. He's got more to show me but I'd still put him #3 at light heavy right now.

I think it's more a case of they just weren't all that damn good to begin with. It's not like Cloud and Campillo ever reached major heights, and their greatest successes weren't all that long before fighting Beterbiev. All of Cloud's losses came right in a row, when he faced his best opposition. Wasn't a case of him being shot, just a case of him facing better opposition and not being able to beat them.

Now Campillo being the age he's at, had certainly seen better days by the time he fought Beterbiev. Plus he'd already been wrecked by Kovalev too.

Lackeos wrote:I think Kovalev - Ward would be a more significant fight than Kovalev - Beterbiev. Eventually Kovalev - Beterbiev will be a great fight, but for it to matter as much as it deserves to, I think first Beterbiev should get a win over Stevenson, Fonfara, Alvarez, or Pascal. For all of the innuendo that Beterbiev is better than Kovalev, he ought to do something to bring his resume into the same neighborhood as Kovalev's. Then it would be a true super fight.

Perfectly stated.

Beterbiev is largely judged on potential right now, but he has looked formidable. One of the few who could match the strength of Kovalev. But a win over Ward carries the significance... I would add Cleverly in the list with those guys, he was right on par with Fonfara in a hellacious fight. At this point Pascal offers $ and little risk so that seems likely, but beating any of them furthers Artur's climb towards a shot at Sergei and like you said builds into a super fight.

I'd rather see Kovalev vs Stevenson above all else. Kovalev vs Ward would be the next best thing.

Beterbiev will make a tremendous challenger come 2017. Hopefully he gets about 3 or 4 fights in this year. Haven't heard any fights being talked about for him lately though.

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

He is ready. Haymon isn't.

Don't try to put this off on Haymon, BB had the opportunity to make this fight and He turned it down, not Haymon.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Artur and his team turned the fight down last year, he isn't ready quite yet.

He is ready. Haymon isn't.

Don't try to put this off on Haymon, BB had the opportunity to make this fight and He turned it down, not Haymon.

Right, and Quillin turned down career high payday against Korobov by himself. Haymon never turns anything down

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Kovalev is more fluid and faster, beterbiev probably has more one punch power.

I haven't seen enough of Beterbiyev to judge on that, but kovalev definitely has the better jab which I think would give Betrbiyev big problems in the head-to-head