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Now its a simple question and I've asked this on other platforms also that who are the most criticized Boxers in Doping Matters????

Just look at who the overly muscled ones are, or ones who have made gigantic leaps in weight.

Classic one are:

Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones

If we are being honest without prejudice factoring out our favorite boxers then you have to admit that the boxers in recent memory winning multiple world titles in several different weight classes have to be the first ones to look at. I'm talking Manny and Floyd here. I'm a huge fan of Manny but for me to sit here and say that he didn't dabble during his gambling, drinking and womanizing years. If his character was so in question with everything else in his life at the time, you have to think that steroids would just be the normal progression. Floyd getting caught with a masking injection the night before the big fight was also telling and you now have to question him being as clean as he says he was.

But GGG and Bradley are already VADA tested for their fights so that should tell you all you need to know about these two guys being clean and hopefully the rest of the boxing world will adopt the highest end of testing for bouts to ensure rule compliancy.

Juan Manuel Marquez was the most obvious one for me the last few years. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was on the juice. David Haye looks like is taking something also.

Baby Face Finster wrote:Juan Manuel Marquez was the most obvious one for me the last few years. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was on the juice. David Haye looks like is taking something also.

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Most criticized is:

Tarver aka Milk Dud
Toney aka the Michelin Tire Man
Roid Jones
Sugar cokeCane Mosley

Least criticized is Manny PEDman Pacquiao, his fans never own up to him doping and are too afraid to admit they are even remotely suspicious of him as well.

Agree about JMM.

I'd be surprised if AJ weren't on something. He's added a significant amount of muscle mass in a relatively short period and is sporting the classic roid gut.

Always fort ovil McKenzie was suspect

crusader wrote:Agree about JMM.

I'd be surprised if AJ weren't on something. He's added a significant amount of muscle mass in a relatively short period and is sporting the classic roid gut.

The "roid gut" is more associated with growth hormone and insulin use. but both are also banned although they arnt anabolic steroids. and are harder to detect.

The question is, who has been caught?

foxdog1923 wrote:The question is, who has been caught?

..in a legal sense yes, not in the court of public opinion though...

For me they are allways far to less criticized, in my opinion everyone cought deserves a life ban, you should pump the money back into boxing and you deserve quite some time in prison for and attempt of premeditated murder since this is a fighting sport. Since you're fighting you're risking someones life when you use unnatural powers and not just your own.

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:The question is, who has been caught?

..in a legal sense yes, not in the court of public opinion though...

So which boxers been caught?

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:The question is, who has been caught?

..in a legal sense yes, not in the court of public opinion though...

So which boxers been caught?

..you tell me,.. the bigger question is if you are not legally caught but show all signs of being a drug abuser, should/can we publicly claim you are the one?

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: ..in a legal sense yes, not in the court of public opinion though...

So which boxers been caught?

..you tell me,.. the bigger question is if you are not legally caught but show all signs of being a drug abuser, should we publicly claim you are the one?

I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: So which boxers been caught?

..you tell me,.. the bigger question is if you are not legally caught but show all signs of being a drug abuser, should we publicly claim you are the one?

I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: ..you tell me,.. the bigger question is if you are not legally caught but show all signs of being a drug abuser, should we publicly claim you are the one?

I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holy did, Tyson used drugs, but no roids

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holyfield didn't, but some guy called Evan Fields used to like a bit of HGH.

crusader wrote:Agree about JMM.

I'd be surprised if AJ weren't on something. He's added a significant amount of muscle mass in a relatively short period and is sporting the classic roid gut.

Is this only media criticism against AJ or Mayweather or is there any truth against them in matter of doping???

Lenny Cravats wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holyfield didn't, but some guy called Evan Fields used to like a bit of HGH.

yea i think evan lived in a similar adress too, coincidence obviously

For what my opinion is worth, boxers should be subject to the same testing regime as professional athletes. Random tests at any time of the day or night. No excuses. Remember this.
In athletics the doping might mean someone jumps higher or runs faster.
In boxing it could mean the difference between knocking someone out or killing them.
I have my own views on who I think has doped in the past however don't have the money to pay a libel or slander suit so will keep those names to myself.

Lenny Cravats wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holyfield didn't, but some guy called Evan Fields used to like a bit of HGH.

Holyfield did

Judging a book by its cover is like playing with fire but Lovemore Ndou was suspect it was a BIG waste if he was because it didn't help
him in his Biggest fight's of his career he lost nearly all of them