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Posted: **05 Feb 2016, 19:49**

Wins (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-loses (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-drawn. Anything to say about the fights. Date lines. Can we ask what you made? Your retired? Ever thought of coming back? How old are you now?
What part of the world are you in?

Posted: **05 Feb 2016, 20:37**

ImranSarwar wrote:Wins (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-loses (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-drawn. Anything to say about the fights. Date lines. Can we ask what you made? Your retired? Ever thought of coming back? How old are you now?
What part of the world are you in?

In uk 42 yr old went 3(0) 4(1) always think about coming back and always ended up with about £400-£600 in me hand for a 6 rounder

Posted: **06 Feb 2016, 16:43**

littlepug wrote:
ImranSarwar wrote:Wins (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-loses (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-drawn. Anything to say about the fights. Date lines. Can we ask what you made? Your retired? Ever thought of coming back? How old are you now?
What part of the world are you in?
In uk 42 yr old went 3(0) 4(1) always think about coming back and always ended up with about £400-£600 in me hand for a 6 rounder

It's respectable! I'm 1(0)-12(3)-0 listed sm by BoxRec. £500 what's that in US dollars?
I've fought
1) •US Olympic trials 165lb bronze at 168
2) •one year removed from losing decision to Roy Jones in the National (156) & New England light middle champ.
3) •rematch '2'
4) •Pan am silver medalist boxer a 6-0 pro when I met him.
5) •4-4-0 pro (my one win. Dq at that. 4r bout it WAS 2-0 in my favor when r.2 bell ended)(r.3 never Opens..)
6) •This boxer I'll profile later on. Product out of Worcester, Massachusetts. Look at Duran's line '99'. [Fight is on you tube, "no.99"]
7) •lh fight. I didn't do badly.. [Sugar Ramos in my Corner this one. 3/23/91]
8) •here I was with a 160 who was 1-0 (1). He also, as I learned later..the 1991 National champ/GG (165)
9) •This boxer was a well known amateur here in Ne and was champ in the amateur. He has Goody Petronelli in his corner. We fought on a Jimmy Burchfield production, at Warwick, Rhode Island. World champ Vinny Pazienza was ring-side for local TV color commentary (I got to "hang out" w/Paz a little bit! Most "gentle" greatest chap!)
10) •Here I fought a protege turning pro at 168. I did "well"/we fought in CT. & I have my publisher friend Bob Taylor handle my corner ["The Amateur Boxer"/Bob introduced MTyson to the world-at-large][I know Tyson at '83 GG]
11) • rematch '6'. No need to "stop" there! I woulda lost by decision no doubt. Opp unbeaten in 16 bouts a.t.p.
^ ^ Ernest (M16)Mateen main evented on PA show.
(My Opp held double Ne titles a.t.t. 160 & 154) (we were little bit over m. limit)
12) •Back on with Jimmy Burchfield....I agreed to meet a Russian beginning tour in USA. 160lb. Look at this guys record two matches before me.

Posted: **06 Feb 2016, 18:54**

ImranSarwar wrote:
littlepug wrote:
ImranSarwar wrote:Wins (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-loses (Ko's/Rsc/ret)-drawn. Anything to say about the fights. Date lines. Can we ask what you made? Your retired? Ever thought of coming back? How old are you now?
What part of the world are you in?
In uk 42 yr old went 3(0) 4(1) always think about coming back and always ended up with about £400-£600 in me hand for a 6 rounder
It's respectable! I'm 1(0)-12(3)-0 listed sm by BoxRec. £500 what's that in US dollars?
I've fought
1) •US Olympic trials 165lb bronze at 168
2) •one year removed from losing decision to Roy Jones in the National (156) & New England light middle champ.
3) •rematch '2'
4) •Pan am silver medalist boxer a 6-0 pro when I met him.
5) •4-4-0 pro (my one win. Dq at that. 4r bout it WAS 2-0 in my favor when r.2 bell ended)(r.3 never Opens..)
6) •This boxer I'll profile later on. Product out of Worcester, Massachusetts. Look at Duran's line '99'. [Figh t is on you tube, "no.99"]
7) •lh fight. I didn't do badly.. [Sugar Ramos in my Corner this one. 3/23/91]
8) •here I was with a 160 who was 1-0 (1). He also, as I learned later..the 1991 National champ/GG (165)
9) •This boxer was a well known amateur here in Ne and was champ in the amateur. He has Goody Petronelli in his corner. We fought on a Jimmy Burchfield production, at Warwick, Rhode Island. World champ Vinny Pazienza was ring-side for local TV color commentary (I got to "hang out" w/Paz a little bit! Most "gentle" greatest chap!)
10) •Here I fought a protege turning pro at 168. I did "well"/we fought in CT. & I have my publisher friend Bob Taylor handle my corner ["The Amateur Boxer"/Bob introduced MTyson to the world-at-large][I know Tyson at '83 GG]
11) • rematch '6'. No need to "stop" there! I woulda lost by decision no doubt. Opp unbeaten in 16 bouts a.t.p.
^ ^ Ernest (M16)Mateen main evented on PA show.
(My Opp held double Ne titles a.t.t. 160 & 154) (we were little bit over m. limit)
12) •Back on with Jimmy Burchfield....I agreed to meet a Russian beginning tour in USA. 160lb. Look at this guys record two matches before me.

Nice stuff there imransarwar the memories last forever mate

Posted: **07 Feb 2016, 14:43**

^ ^ ^ little pug! YOUR RIGHT! Thank you too!
: )

Posted: **11 Feb 2016, 18:07**

0 -1 (RSF 4)

Posted: **11 Feb 2016, 18:51**

1-0 (UD 4).

Got 50 bucks

Everything about it was last minute. I was an extremely drained 180 trying to get to 175 and four days before the fight I got a call from the promoter that my opponent dropped out and I had a new opponent who weighed 215. He asked if I wanted out, I said no. He was a debutant too and I'd been training with two regionally accomplished amateurs and a former National and Junior Olympic champ so I was confident. Not too long after that I got accepted to Grad school and decided to stop losing brain cells in the ring. I really feel the urge to do it again some day though; not as a career, but I'm an athlete and I love to test myself. I learned more about myself boxing and competing in mixed martial arts then I have in any other sport.

Posted: **11 Feb 2016, 19:43**

Thing that really depresses me about my 'record' , bloke who beat me had another four fights, lost them all (stopped three times) if he'd gone on to do something I wouldn't feel so bad.

Posted: **12 Feb 2016, 08:37**

Andy Paints Brian wrote:Thing that really depresses me about my 'record' , bloke who beat me had another four fights, lost them all (stopped three times) if he'd gone on to do something I wouldn't feel so bad.

Everyone gets beat mate, don't let it get you down

Posted: **12 Feb 2016, 10:34**

Andy Paints Brian wrote:Thing that really depresses me about my 'record' , bloke who beat me had another four fights, lost them all (stopped three times) if he'd gone on to do something I wouldn't feel so bad.

Don't let it get you down bud! Styles make fights and all that.

My first ever MMA match I ended up losing a close, very tough fight against a guy that I thought would turn out to be an absolute killer. His next fight a couple weeks later he won by KO by slamming the crap out of his opponent. Then he went on to lose his next seven and I don't think he ever fought again.

Sometimes you get a guy at the wrong time, and sometimes styles are just bad for you personally. The point is that you went out and did it, and not very many people can say that!

Posted: **12 Feb 2016, 20:54**

Thanks

Posted: **13 Feb 2016, 18:18**

0-1-0 (0)

I learned a few valuable lessons from losing the way I did. That you can't trust a bookie. Not everyone in the business is looking out for your interests. You will be told more lies than truths. And if you want to do things right, then you have to do them yourself. It'll take longer, and be a harder road getting what you want, but it pays off in the end.

I renewed my federal ID some time ago, and am saving up to knock out blood work and eye exams and physicals so I can have it on record for six months, as I have been talking to a promoter about having me compete on one of his shows in North Carolina. I'll have to pay my own way (bus) and my own lodgings and food, but then again, without backers how else can it get done to fight men in your own class? So it's gonna leave me in the hole, quite alot, but hey

thats the truth of the business.

Posted: **13 Feb 2016, 18:20**

HomicideHenry wrote:0-1-0 (0) I learned a few valuable lessons from losing the way I did. That you can't trust a bookie. Not everyone in the business is looking out for your interests. You will be told more lies than truths. And if you want to do things right, then you have to do them yourself. It'll take longer, and be a harder road getting what you want, but it pays off in the end.

I renewed my federal ID some time ago, and am saving up to knock out blood work and eye exams and physicals so I can have it on record for six months, as I have been talking to a promoter about having me compete on one of his shows in North Carolina. I'll have to pay my own way (bus) and my own lodgings and food, but then again, without backers how else can it get done to fight men in your own class? So it's gonna leave me in the hole, quite alot, but hey thats the truth of the business.

Why not box amateur if you're not going to get paid?

Posted: **13 Feb 2016, 18:22**

palooka wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:0-1-0 (0) I learned a few valuable lessons from losing the way I did. That you can't trust a bookie. Not everyone in the business is looking out for your interests. You will be told more lies than truths. And if you want to do things right, then you have to do them yourself. It'll take longer, and be a harder road getting what you want, but it pays off in the end.

I renewed my federal ID some time ago, and am saving up to knock out blood work and eye exams and physicals so I can have it on record for six months, as I have been talking to a promoter about having me compete on one of his shows in North Carolina. I'll have to pay my own way (bus) and my own lodgings and food, but then again, without backers how else can it get done to fight men in your own class? So it's gonna leave me in the hole, quite alot, but hey thats the truth of the business.
Why not box amateur if you're not going to get paid?

Once you go pro you can't go back to the amateurs. The only pro/am type program there is for such a thing is for the absoloute elite amateurs fighting internationally. Its not meant for people like myself with little to no experience. You can't petition your way back to the amateurs, I've already talked to amateur promoters and trainers locally who say no such thing exists here in America.

Posted: **13 Feb 2016, 20:21**

HomicideHenry wrote:0-1-0 (0)

What's your bareknuckle record?

Posted: **14 Feb 2016, 04:52**

HomicideHenry wrote:
palooka wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:0-1-0 (0) I learned a few valuable lessons from losing the way I did. That you can't trust a bookie. Not everyone in the business is looking out for your interests. You will be told more lies than truths. And if you want to do things right, then you have to do them yourself. It'll take longer, and be a harder road getting what you want, but it pays off in the end.

I renewed my federal ID some time ago, and am saving up to knock out blood work and eye exams and physicals so I can have it on record for six months, as I have been talking to a promoter about having me compete on one of his shows in North Carolina. I'll have to pay my own way (bus) and my own lodgings and food, but then again, without backers how else can it get done to fight men in your own class? So it's gonna leave me in the hole, quite alot, but hey thats the truth of the business.
Why not box amateur if you're not going to get paid?
Once you go pro you can't go back to the amateurs. The only pro/am type program there is for such a thing is for the absoloute elite amateurs fighting internationally. Its not meant for people like myself with little to no experience. You can't petition your way back to the amateurs, I've already talked to amateur promoters and trainers locally who say no such thing exists here in America.

Absolute bullshit as usual Rufus. I see you havent learned one thing from your recent threads...

Posted: **17 Feb 2016, 13:10**

Then you call LONNIE RETTIG of the Southside Spartans Gym (Lima, Ohio) who has been putting on amateur boxing shows for over TWENTY YEARS..... and you tell him, that he is wrong, when he told me no such thing exists HERE IN AMERICA.

419-234-0120

And while you are at it, here's the number for Judy McCarty (Bernie Profato's secretary)of the Ohio State Boxing Commission, who also told me that you cannot petition your way back to the amateurs.

330 797-2556

When you are told that you are mistaken, I want a mother fornicating apology you son of a bitch.

Posted: **17 Feb 2016, 13:57**

HomicideHenry! (Rufus Defibaugh) [If your contact in Ohio ever be on look out for a "dynamic" commissioner please put me in for consideration! Only: must spell out a few understandings pre because/I am for\about the better Heath of the SPORT. -Can not- be at "work" working to "sabotage" my own industry all because I am in center of a group of "Novice opperators"]
There is a DUDE here in the forum he....."wish" to 'Box'/ and he SAY he is 168lbs. The guy is: "Ugly crap person"....that is all I can gather of him.
I'm listed sm in the data base. But..really I am a true welterweight. And, myself I would count MY RECORD as: sm m m sm jm m lh m m sm m m = 13. But.....BoxRec tend to count even one pound over the limit as the next weight div. (though, they DO NOT do the such, "strictly"/I've seen other various things that do not follow that line....)
Anyway, pm me please and I'll put the JERK GUY "handle" to you.
And also, talk to me in pm, OR here....about your -weight-/ and your amateur background too. You may not be inundated on "weight". You should *by-and-large.....always "cut" weight. & it is water-weight you are cutting. I maybe could teach you few things about the "weight". And also, I think that "dude" may-be "easy" mark if you yet have the connection with TKO Boxing Promotions LLC & Chris Moffitt the mm on your 27 Feb. 2010 "go" against that "Nice guy", jlove.
[Notice the undercard 4-0-0 Joseph Elegele UD one 5-10-0 enter Deon Nash, 147]

Posted: **17 Feb 2016, 14:03**

ALSO: True. Once a pro you can't "go back"....at least that is how it has always been in the UNITED STATES! ENGLAND, they "certainly allow it!"
Boxing History, Rocky Marciano went pro, went back to amateur (and: "LOST") and went back at the pro. Well known fact.

Posted: **17 Feb 2016, 14:07**

&...about Tomasino....Tomasino a "VERY GOOD CHAP". I think he is only "digging" you. Forgive him, alright! : ) I am certain he means nothing awful towards you! [We can get Tomasino to be a mm!]

Posted: **26 Feb 2016, 16:35**

You can go back to amatuer as long as you Havnt had over a certain number of fights.im not sure how many.(england)

I train with an am who had 4 pro fights.

Posted: **29 Mar 2016, 21:42**

Ginger one to watch wrote:You can go back to amatuer as long as you Havnt had over a certain number of fights.im not sure how many.(england)

I train with an am who had 4 pro fights.

What's his name? I would be interested to see IF his record here. Plus....I can "edit" bio him bit. What GYM are you training at? [John Wilkinson here -w- pro (retired)]

Posted: **02 Jun 2016, 20:28**

u can go back amateur in the uk if u have had 4 or less fights. joey ainscough turned pro had a fight and went back amateur then turned pro again at a later date. only rule is you can no longer box international or go in the championships for 12 month from the date of going back.

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