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Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 10:44
by handsofstone
Ive put a question mark because im not certain what he said,im on my dinner break and have just noticed something on Sky Sports News about Manny comparing gays to animals
Not boxing Mr Nice guy surely
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Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 10:57
by Boxerbeetle
Full story here:
Manny Pacquiao provokes storm by calling gay people ‘worse than animals’
The eight-times world boxing champion Manny Pacquiao has provoked a storm of controversy in his home country after saying people in same-sex relationships “are worse than animals”.
Pacquiao, 37, who is running for a seat in the Philippines senate in May’s elections as a conservative Christian, made the remark in a video posted on local TV5’s election site.
“It’s common sense,” he said. “Do you see animals mating with the same sex? Animals are better because they can distinguish male from female. If men mate with men and women mate with women they are worse than animals.”
The country’s most popular gay comedian, Vice Ganda, posted #PrayForMannyPacquiao to his 6.7m followers on Twitter as he hit back at the boxer, adding: “Some people think they can judge people like God just because they’ve attended a prayer meeting and read the bible. The senate needs experts on politics and law, not blind prophets.”
The singer Aiza Seguerra, who recently married her actress-girlfriend, called on voters to boycott Pacquiao, who is also preparing for his last fight in April, calling him an “ignorant, bigoted hypocrite”. Seguerra added: “You might have done our country proud but with your statement, you just showed the whole country why we shouldn’t vote for you.”
Pacquiao, beaten by Floyd Mayweather in May last year, currently represents the province of Sarangani in the House of Representatives, though is often absent. In one of his few speeches, Pacquiao quoted heavily from the bible as he attempted to stop a proposed law, since passed, giving free condoms to the poor.
Responding to the controversy via Instagram, Pacquiao initially posted an image of himself with his wife, quoting the bible and writing: “I rather obey the Lord’s command than obeying the desire of the flesh. I’m not condemning anyone, but I’m just telling the truth of what the bible says.”
Later, though, he added an apology, saying: “I’m sorry for hurting people by comparing homosexuals to animals. Please forgive me for those I’ve hurt. I still stand on my belief that I’m against same sex marriage because of what the Bible says, but I’m not condemning LGBT. I love you all with the love of the Lord. God Bless you all and I’m praying for you.”
In January fighter Tyson Fury was reminded of his “heavy responsibilities” by the British Boxing Board of Control for his controversial remarks about homosexuality.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/f ... an-animals
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 11:12
by ste1983
Similar to Fury I don't really agree with his comments but its based on his religion the 'freedom of speech' brigade can't want people to be able to express their views but only if it suits them.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 11:27
by watsupdoc87
Neither pak mans or furys comments bother me in the slightest, id rather they have their own views than the usual pr crap you get from most sportsmen, but im intrigued as to see will pak the much loved good guy of the sport man get as much of a bolloking of the press and public as fury did.
I doubt it tho

Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 12:48
by Boxing Prospect
What's gone totally ignored here is that Pacquiao, again under the reason of his religion, paid for 1000 houses to be built from his own pocket for a housing project. That story gets no attention but his views on same sex marriage do. Really does seem to be a case of people wanting to make more of negative stories than positive ones.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 12:52
by mullenman
He views are his views and I respect that..
He loves everybody but does not agree with what they do and that is fine in my book
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 12:56
by stevedoc
Boxing Prospect wrote:What's gone totally ignored here is that Pacquiao, again under the reason of his religion, paid for 1000 houses to be built from his own pocket for a housing project. That story gets no attention but his views on same sex marriage do. Really does seem to be a case of people wanting to make more of negative stories than positive ones.
What has building houses got to do with it?
As for Manny it seems a bit of a backwards view point to me but it's his own view and he's entitled to it
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:22
by jamesmcdonnell
Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:35
by stevedoc
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Do you think in this PC world that stating it's your religious beliefs has become a way to say outrageous remarks without getting into to much trouble.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:35
by Boxing Prospect
stevedoc wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:What's gone totally ignored here is that Pacquiao, again under the reason of his religion, paid for 1000 houses to be built from his own pocket for a housing project. That story gets no attention but his views on same sex marriage do. Really does seem to be a case of people wanting to make more of negative stories than positive ones.
What has building houses got to do with it?
As for Manny it seems a bit of a backwards view point to me but it's his own view and he's entitled to it
The point I was making was him doing something "good" in the name of religion was completely ignored by the media, yet him sharing his religious views on same sex marriage is being hugely reported. We have a mentality where we seem to be so happy to give people criticism for their personal views and when they do something wrong, but we rarely give people credit when they do something good.
Similarly we hear about Mayweather beating up women and Hopkins' serving jail time (and his comment about "White boy"), yet Mayweather paying for Hernandez's funeral and Hopkins' friendship with Shaun Negler goes over looked.
The media are happy to turn the screw on negative actions of boxers, but rarely do they make any effort when a boxer does something positive and that, to me, is a little bit unfair.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:38
by jamesmcdonnell
Boxing Prospect wrote:stevedoc wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:What's gone totally ignored here is that Pacquiao, again under the reason of his religion, paid for 1000 houses to be built from his own pocket for a housing project. That story gets no attention but his views on same sex marriage do. Really does seem to be a case of people wanting to make more of negative stories than positive ones.
What has building houses got to do with it?
As for Manny it seems a bit of a backwards view point to me but it's his own view and he's entitled to it
The point I was making was him doing something "good" in the name of religion was completely ignored by the media, yet him sharing his religious views on same sex marriage is being hugely reported. We have a mentality where we seem to be so happy to give people criticism for their personal views and when they do something wrong, but we rarely give people credit when they do something good.
Similarly we hear about Mayweather beating up women and Hopkins' serving jail time (and his comment about "White boy"), yet Mayweather paying for Hernandez's funeral and Hopkins' friendship with Shaun Negler goes over looked.
The media are happy to turn the screw on negative actions of boxers, but rarely do they make any effort when a boxer does something positive and that, to me, is a little bit unfair.
It's not just boxers, bad news and controversy always make for better news, people love negative news. Sad but true.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:45
by Taansend
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Spot on
Outdated nonsense which has no place in the modern world. The Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity & Islam) are nothing but trouble.
If people want to live by the bible - or these other old books - they should go all in & live in a tent in the Middle East with no modern amenities.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:50
by tobyh5
Boxing Prospect wrote:
The point I was making was him doing something "good" in the name of religion was completely ignored by the media,
It could not have been completely ignored if you know about it, unless you are in the Philippines and know the housing project of course

Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:52
by jamesmcdonnell
Taansend wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Spot on
Outdated nonsense which has no place in the modern world. The Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity & Islam) are nothing but trouble.
If people want to live by the bible - or these other old books - they should go all in & live in a tent in the Middle East with no modern amenities.
I totally agree.
I find it absurd that people are still prepared to believe in such obvious claptrap, I mean it just doesn't make anything like any sense does it? A wade through the old testament reveals just how ludicrous the idea of following some vengeful sky god really is.
These things were created by people who knew shite all about the world, the universe and how things worked, why on earth are we to defer to their ravings?
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:54
by gilgamesh
I quit reading after he said "Animals can tell Male from Female"
I see Male dogs humping on other Male dogs ALL THE TIME

Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:55
by Nightmare Roy
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Yup pretty much. He's entitled to his views though, just like I'm entitled to think anyone who believes a big dude with a beard made the world in 7 days and that dinosaurs never roamed the earth is a fcuking idiot.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 13:57
by Nightmare Roy
The Revival wrote:I quit reading after he said "Animals can tell Male from Female"
I see Male dogs humping on other Male dogs ALL THE TIME

A right hard nut I knew had a gay English bull terrier, he was so ashamed, it gave us some right laughs

Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:03
by Taansend
Nightmare Roy wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Yup pretty much. He's entitled to his views though, just like I'm entitled to think anyone who believes a big dude with a beard made the world in 7 days and that dinosaurs never roamed the earth is a fcuking idiot.
Six days Roy. God put his feet up on the 7th & spent the day watching old episodes of Coronation Street

Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:05
by Nightmare Roy
Taansend wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Religious nut spouting nonsense shocker.
Yup pretty much. He's entitled to his views though, just like I'm entitled to think anyone who believes a big dude with a beard made the world in 7 days and that dinosaurs never roamed the earth is a fcuking idiot.
Six days Roy. God put his feet up on the 7th & spent the day watching old episodes of Coronation Street


Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:06
by Taansend
I might be wrong but didn't god invent Adam & then because Adam was bored god took one of Adams ribs & made Eve?
So women are part of man anyway so heterosexual relationships are also homosexual relationships
Now I'm confusing myself.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:07
by Cyclops
The Revival wrote:I quit reading after he said "Animals can tell Male from Female"
I see Male dogs humping on other Male dogs ALL THE TIME

There's loads of gay animals, and not just indiscriminate humping. Swans couple up, apparently. And they get a female Swan in for threesomes sometimes too. Wikipedia says.
Dirty little bastards.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:08
by Boxing Prospect
tobyh5 wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:
The point I was making was him doing something "good" in the name of religion was completely ignored by the media,
It could not have been completely ignored if you know about it, unless you are in the Philippines and know the housing project of course

BBC reported on this controversy yet ignored the housing thing...they went with the negative and didn't even mention the positive in passing reference
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:37
by SNG
Homosexuality is very prevelant in the animal kingdom.
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:38
by SNG
Boxing Prospect wrote:tobyh5 wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:
The point I was making was him doing something "good" in the name of religion was completely ignored by the media,
It could not have been completely ignored if you know about it, unless you are in the Philippines and know the housing project of course

BBC reported on this controversy yet ignored the housing thing...they went with the negative and didn't even mention the positive in passing reference
So how do you know about it?
Re: Pacquiao talking religious nonsense??
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:45
by Monte Fisto
Political dream team, pacquiao and fury.
This was a most unfortunate read. He either needs some better advisors or to start listening to his existing advisors.