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Makes no fornicating sense. Povetkin has more than 5 times fights in amateurs. He fought on tournaments since 2000.

Wilder started with boxing in 2005 later and he has short amateur career.

But people still complain about opponents lol.

He has to step up slowly.

You people act like Wladimir Klitschko fought some world beaters in his first 30 fights. Klitschko lost against Ross Purrity (guy who lost on points against Grant)

He fought only one decent opponent and it was Chris Byrd.

So what the fornicate you want from Deontay Wilder?

He has time to devolp his skills .

Many of you complain that he is a paper champion.

False. There is only one champion right now and it's Tyson Fury.

Wilder is only belt holder .

Povetkin if i remember defended his wba title even against bigger bums.

If Wilder beats Povetkin - most of his haters will use excuses about Povetkin's size.

I see Povetkin much easier than Szpilka for Wilder.

Styles make fights and Povetkin is not southpaw , he has not Szpilka's movement and Szpilka has much better jab.

Povetkin will always look good against small guys .

The fact is that Wilder will expose him the same way Fury did against Klitschko.

We get it.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=198127
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=198079
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=197524

People complain about Wilder's competition because he's fought ONE Top 10 opponent ever. Seems like he's doing all he can to avoid fighting the best opponent of his career in Povetkin, and has made 3 voluntary title defenses all against fighters who weren't in the Top 10...2 of which weren't even in the Top 20 (Duhaupas and Molina)

He has some laughably bad competition for a guy who is supposed to be a World Champion...and worse. Szpilka was outboxing him prior to getting caught and knocked out.

So a guy that's barely Top 15 is capable of making Wilder look like sh*t.

Wilder is the modern day Lamar Clark.

all ifs and buts till a fight is made

The way Wilder build his carreer up was pretty much the same way as Fabio Maldonado ( http://boxrec.com/boxer/171565 ), lol, just noticed he's going to fight soon again :S.

Wilder just fought a shitload of bums and after that started to fight better competition.
If Wilder never fought his first 25 pro opponends nobody would have complained, but he did, he did fight those 25 bums and made a name as a bumfighter during those 25 fights, once people call you a bumfighter it's hard to chance your opinion, especially after just a few fights.

I know Povetkin his amateurcarreer is much more impressive, when you see him fighting you see he learned it from a really young age. His reactions are automatic, he's already planning 2 seconds ahead, unlike pretty much any heavyweight American. Wilder just improvises after every half a second, like pretty much every American. Now he's good at that, but he's not the top of the world, he got close near the top body, he got a good, fast and flexible reactions, but there are a few boxers out there that are probably better as him, he just hasn't fought them yet.
Povetkin doesn't have the ultimate heavyweight body, but he's just an extreme talent.
Cut Povetkin's head of and put is on Wilder's body and Povetkin would easely have won against Klitschko. Cut Wilder's head of and put it on Povetkin's body (especially at the time) and he would have been KOed about 20-30 times.

I think it's a really close fight, Povetkin got the better skills, Wilder got the better natural body.

If you're trying to say that there's no comparison because Povetkin has a better resume and is a better fighter, then there is no reason to argue. For anyone claiming that Wilder is a better fighter than Povetkin, Wilder's background is an empty excuse for lackluster opposition. If he is so good, then he's already ready to fight opponents of unlimited caliber, regardless of his route to get where he is. If there is legitimate excuse for him holding back and fighting tune-ups, then he isn't yet as good as some claim.

I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Mexi-Box wrote:I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

Povetkin isn't reckless like Szpilka. Same goes for Wilder if Povetkin lands that beastly hook he decapitated Perez with.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

Povetkin isn't reckless like Szpilka. Same goes for Wilder if Povetkin lands that beastly hook he decapitated Perez with.

No doubt. But, I think that reading too much into the Perez fight is a mistake.

Povetkin should be the favorite but Wilder is exponentially more dangerous than Perez.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

Povetkin isn't reckless like Szpilka. Same goes for Wilder if Povetkin lands that beastly hook he decapitated Perez with.

No doubt. But, I think that reading too much into the Perez fight is a mistake.

Povetkin should be the favorite but Wilder is exponentially more dangerous than Perez.

Not really. A lot thought Perez would do to Povetkin what he did to Jennings and Takam. That is outbox and make him look foolish for 4 or 5 rounds. He didn't even get that chance because Povetkin bombed him out easy.

Wilder isn't even close to as skilled as Perez.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:
Povetkin isn't reckless like Szpilka. Same goes for Wilder if Povetkin lands that beastly hook he decapitated Perez with.

No doubt. But, I think that reading too much into the Perez fight is a mistake.

Povetkin should be the favorite but Wilder is exponentially more dangerous than Perez.

Not really. A lot thought Perez would do to Povetkin what he did to Jennings and Takam. That is outbox and make him look foolish for 4 or 5 rounds. He didn't even get that chance because Povetkin bombed him out easy.

Wilder isn't even close to as skilled as Perez.

You are kidding yourself if you don't see that Wilder is far more dangerous than Perez.

There's no excusing Wilder's piss poor resume.

Defences against C-Level fighters like Molina, Duhaupas and Szplilka? fornicate off.

None of them are even top 20 fighters and it's a farce that they've competed for the world title. To be fair though, Wilder isn't the first and won't be the last to cherry pick easy defences against poor opponents but seems to get the most hate for it.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

I had it 7 rounds to 1 for Szpilka. He was well ahead I thought.

wilder has turned into a legit contender.
povetkin is the smaller man on his way
out. can go either way, i tend to think
wilder is making it in a close decision.

gilgamesh wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:I like how when Wilder fought Szpilka everyone was saying it would be an easy fight. Once Wilder gets schooled, Szpilka is all of the sudden a world-beater. Yes, Wilder was down in any sane person's score-card before the KO.

Povetkin KO's top 10 Takam and arguably top 10 but granite chinned Perez, and people act as if he was supposed to do that. Perez took Jennings very close. The same Jennings who school Szpilka.

Wilder will get paid real nice to take a nap in Russia, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Szpilka fought very well v Wilder. He made him look amateurish at times. But I don't think that it was out of the question to have Wilder ahead at the time of the beheading. I think that I had it even or very close.

Records and the eye test would suggest that Povetkin should be favored. However, if Povetkin gets caught by the right hand that nearly tore Szpilka's head clean off, just play taps.

I had it 7 rounds to 1 for Szpilka. He was well ahead I thought.

Fair enough. I think I did a round by round on here so my score is on record. Haven't searched it but I think that I had it pretty even with the final round putting Wilder up. I suppose I should check that out.

Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

davie wrote:Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

Lol , look against who Povetkin defended his title. Past prime old Rahman ? Wawrzyk? Those boxers are better than Szpilka or Dohoupas ? OK than

conty22 wrote:

davie wrote:Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

Lol , look against who Povetkin defended his title. Past prime old Rahman ? Wawrzyk? Those boxers are better than Szpilka or Dohoupas ? OK than

Povetkin's defended his silver title against better than Wilder has his "world" strap

davie wrote:

conty22 wrote:

davie wrote:Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

Lol , look against who Povetkin defended his title. Past prime old Rahman ? Wawrzyk? Those boxers are better than Szpilka or Dohoupas ? OK than

Povetkin's defended his silver title against better than Wilder has his "world" strap

Lol he defended it only against Wach, You can't be serious that Wach is better than Szpilka hahaha. Perez and Takam were eliminator fights . Those fights were not volumentary

The money is on Wilder, by the way:

http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/box ... 77475.html

davie wrote:

conty22 wrote:

davie wrote:Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

Lol , look against who Povetkin defended his title. Past prime old Rahman ? Wawrzyk? Those boxers are better than Szpilka or Dohoupas ? OK than

Povetkin's defended his silver title against better than Wilder has his "world" strap

Povetkin was WBA "champion" and defended it against Wawrzyk and 40yo Rahman. After it Klitchko took that belt from him in very humiliating way...

conty22 wrote:

davie wrote:

conty22 wrote:

Lol , look against who Povetkin defended his title. Past prime old Rahman ? Wawrzyk? Those boxers are better than Szpilka or Dohoupas ? OK than

Povetkin's defended his silver title against better than Wilder has his "world" strap

Lol he defended it only against Wach, You can't be serious that Wach is better than Szpilka hahaha. Perez and Takam were eliminator fights . Those fights were not volumentary

Povetkin had WBA strap back in 2012, and defended his "championship" against geriatric Rahman and worldbeater Warzwik, while ducking Klitchko...till they met in Moscow and Klitchko humiliated Povetkin

davie wrote:Should you not learn your trade before you have a world title?
As a "world champion", we are entitled to expect him to fight much better than Duhaupas and Molina

More to the point, I don't care if he fought Audley Harrison and Jason Gavern on the way up, I just didn't expect him to work his way into a ranking position that would earn him a world title shot by doing so


Povetkin on the other hand, not only fought better on the way up, but was if anything, critisised for taking to long to take a shot at the title.

My thoughts exactly - it shows how pathetic modern boxing has become, that a current world title holder is in fact still 'learning his trade'