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Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 20:08
by PokerRob
Realy Joe??? You would have to be blind to have seen the score card scored 2-2 after 4 rounds!

Did you see how tentative he was when he told Scott he was 7-1 down lol???

If Scott had pushed the pace much earlier it may have been a different story...

P.S I backed Frampton from the beginning and glad he won!

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 20:15
by stevedoc
Terrible corner he should of told him Scott to jump on him from the 3rd ,quigg will kick himself tomorrow that he never really went for it

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 20:15
by tigermoth87
It was baffling. Surely even a moron should realise that not throwing a punch for 6 rounds gifts those rounds to the opponent. It's not like Frampton was schooling and outboxing Quigg either. All he was doing was throwing a handful of jabs but that handful of jabs was more than Quigg was doing.

For me, Frampton didn't win the fight. It's more Quigg lost it by doing nothing for 6 rounds and gifting them to Frampton.

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Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 20:26
by crusader
There's a slow start, then there's doing pretty much nothing for an entire half of a fight. Terrible approach and not the first time this happened to Quigg. A faster start doesn't necessarily = a win (maybe he wouldn't have enough left for such a strong second half) but I think it would've helped his chances.

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Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 22:03
by sucracristo
i actually gave frampton 1 or 2 of the close rounds in the 2nd half as well,
so i saw frampton up about 7-5, 8-4 at the end, but obviously quigg was much
stronger down the stretch. i don't know why quigg would have thought he had
won more than maybe a round the 1st half, but that is the corner's fault.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 00:59
by Like a Boss
I haven't seen the fight yet. But if Quigg did as little in the first half of the fight as most reports suggest the blame can hardly be levelled at his corner.

Yes Gallagher probably should have been pushing Quigg harder and earlier. But Quigg himself must have known he was handing Frampton round after round by not doing enough.

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Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 11:13
by Horse
Like a Boss wrote:I haven't seen the fight yet. But if Quigg did as little in the first half of the fight as most reports suggest the blame can hardly be levelled at his corner.
The blame is to be levelled at his corner.

Gallagher is an horrendous tactician.

He's tried the 'hardly do anything in the first half of the fight' tactic with Quigg before and it was just as stupid back then.

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Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 11:27
by palooka
It's one thing to have a strategy to come on strong in the second half of the bout but another altogether not to do anything at all for 5 rounds. Quigg should have got stuck into Frampton's ribs from the off, he could have still gone for it later. I don't understand how a professional athlete has a 16 seek training camp for 36 minutes of hard work and only works for 18 minutes. I'm honestly perplexed, similar to Andy Lee doing nothing and giving hishard won title away.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 09:23
by PredatorHayds
Got a feeling he won't be winning trainer of the year next year.
Awful tactics. How he had it level after 4 amazed me.
Also the look of shock on his face when he found out sky had Frampton up.
Quigg looked the better fighter for a spell late on but the early gameplan and tactics cost him the fight.
Having someone fight that slow early on is stupid especially considering how fit Quigg is. He can fight at a high tempo for 12 rounds.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 10:25
by palooka
Gallagher certainly seems to have got the tactics for Quigg all wrong, it looked to me as if Quigg gifted rounds to Frampton by doing basically nothing. Quigg is a decent boxer with a good defence but this wasn't the bout to prove it. This advantages over Frampton were fitness, pace, size and power - in such a big defining bout Gallagher should have come up with a plan that maximised Quiggs strong attributes, not trying to prove that Quigg could slip and sway away from shots. It'll take Quigg 2 hard years of effort to make up the ground lost.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 12:33
by Horse
palooka wrote:It'll take Quigg 2 hard years of effort to make up the ground lost.
Why?

Because he's got to get into a position to fight for another world title, that's after having a rest to allow his jaw to heal completely then he'll need to defend against a mandatory and then be able to go for another unification bout.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 12:51
by palooka
Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:It'll take Quigg 2 hard years of effort to make up the ground lost.
Why?

Because he's got to get into a position to fight for another world title, that's after having a rest to allow his jaw to heal completely then he'll need to defend against a mandatory and then be able to go for another unification bout.
(Sorry managed to balls that up, not used to the exit button on the previous post).

:maybe:

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 12:56
by Horse
Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:It'll take Quigg 2 hard years of effort to make up the ground lost.
Why?

Because he's got to get into a position to fight for another world title, that's after having a rest to allow his jaw to heal completely then he'll need to defend against a mandatory and then be able to go for another unification bout.
How did you make me say that?

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 12:56
by palooka
I've got special powers.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:04
by Horse
palooka wrote:I've got special powers.
Very impressive.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:06
by Horse
palooka wrote:Because he's got to get into a position to fight for another world title, that's after having a rest to allow his jaw to heal completely then he'll need to defend against a mandatory and then be able to go for another unification bout.
He could go straight for Rigondeaux after his jaw has recovered and be in a great position.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:11
by palooka
If Quigg couldn't get into range to land on Frampton he'll have a very frustrating night against Rigo.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:12
by palooka
Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:I've got special powers.
Very impressive.
Don't tell anyone else.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:16
by Horse
palooka wrote:If Quigg couldn't get into range to land on Frampton he'll have a very frustrating night against Rigo.
He could have got into range, but Gallagher told him to lose the early rounds as part of his masterplan.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 13:35
by palooka
Then Quigg is at least partly to blame, an elite boxer such as Rigo thinks for himself and will adjust what he does according to how the round is going - he does not rely on someone telling him exactly what to do. Though Quigg can box, defend and counter well he does not have the boxing intelligence of a world class boxer.

Re: Joe Gallgher = !$%%^&$

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 14:01
by Horse
palooka wrote:Then Quigg is at least partly to blame, an elite boxer such as Rigo thinks for himself and will adjust what he does according to how the round is going - he does not rely on someone telling him exactly what to do. Though Quigg can box, defend and counter well he does not have the boxing intelligence of a world class boxer.
If Quigg did his own thing then he would have done much better.

The main thing pulling Quigg down is his dull-witted trainer.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 17:23
by rd350lc
Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:If Quigg couldn't get into range to land on Frampton he'll have a very frustrating night against Rigo.
He could have got into range, but Gallagher told him to lose the early rounds as part of his masterplan.
That is very funny Horse :clap: