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Just wanted peoples opinion on whether Huck has anything to offer the heavyweight division. He stepped up to face Povetkin and lost a MD a few years ago. As we know Povetkin is a Top 10 heavy and has been for along time. At 31 and having seemingly done everything possible at Cruiserweight does Huck have enough to cause any of the current heavyweight champion problems?

I feel hes never been a BIG Cruiserweight and at 6'2 just doesnt have the size to give the likes of Fury, Wilder or winner of Joshua/Martin any problems. We saw Martin looking to big for Glazkov before that fight ended with the injury. And Huck wouldnt be any bigger than Glazkov.

Perhaps his best bet would be a fight against Chagaev which I'd imagine would be fairly popular in Germany?

Povetkin has improved since then.

Huck is too small.

N2 Shape wrote:Just wanted peoples opinion on whether Huck has anything to offer the heavyweight division. He stepped up to face Povetkin and lost a MD a few years ago. As we know Povetkin is a Top 10 heavy and has been for along time. At 31 and having seemingly done everything possible at Cruiserweight does Huck have enough to cause any of the current heavyweight champion problems?

I feel hes never been a BIG Cruiserweight and at 6'2 just doesnt have the size to give the likes of Fury, Wilder or winner of Joshua/Martin any problems. We saw Martin looking to big for Glazkov before that fight ended with the injury. And Huck wouldnt be any bigger than Glazkov.

Perhaps his best bet would be a fight against Chagaev which I'd imagine would be fairly popular in Germany?

I could easily see Huck-Chagaev happening, IF he gets past Browne...

Ricky_ wrote:Povetkin has improved since then.

Huck is too small.

So are Povetkin, Chagaev and Glazkov...and a lot of other guys that should be in cruiser or even light-heavy, but come for HW money, risking their health.

I agree Re Huck vs Chagaev. As I think it would be a big fight in Germany. And Huck's best chance at a Heavyweight title.

IF that were to happen and he got past Chagaev it also opens up some interesting fights.

bigman1968 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Povetkin has improved since then.

Huck is too small.

So are Povetkin, Chagaev and Glazkov...and a lot of other guys that should be in cruiser or even light-heavy, but come for HW money, risking their health.

Povetkin is about 6'3 and 230+ lb. He just took apart one of the biggest HWs in Wach. He was clearly much bigger than Huck when they shared a ring.

Ricky_ wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Povetkin has improved since then.

Huck is too small.

So are Povetkin, Chagaev and Glazkov...and a lot of other guys that should be in cruiser or even light-heavy, but come for HW money, risking their health.

Povetkin is about 6'3 and 230+ lb. He just took apart one of the biggest HWs in Wach. He was clearly much bigger than Huck when they shared a ring.

Povetkin is 6'2(according to Boxrec, actually he is smaller) with 75' reach and all his career was ~225. And Wach wasn't brought to Russia to contend, but to be a punching bag. And even so Povetkin didn't look convincing against him.

I disagree on both counts. Povetkin couldn't make cruiserweight and he battered Wach senseless every round, did alot better vs Wach than Klitchko did.

Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

Ricky_ wrote:I disagree on both counts. Povetkin couldn't make cruiserweight and he battered Wach senseless every round, did alot better vs Wach than Klitchko did.

You must have had on those special glasses when watching....the ones you had on when you thought Manny beat Floyd.

Badhusker wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:I disagree on both counts. Povetkin couldn't make cruiserweight and he battered Wach senseless every round, did alot better vs Wach than Klitchko did.

You must have had on those special glasses when watching....the ones you had on when you thought Manny beat Floyd.

Wach suffered his first stoppage loss and had picked up, what, 2 rounds on the official cards?

Although i'm not surprised you think a guy getting his ass handed to him for 12 rounds was doing well, didn't you think Floyd beat Maidana?

Ricky_ wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:I disagree on both counts. Povetkin couldn't make cruiserweight and he battered Wach senseless every round, did alot better vs Wach than Klitchko did.

You must have had on those special glasses when watching....the ones you had on when you thought Manny beat Floyd.

Wach suffered his first stoppage loss and had picked up, what, 2 rounds on the official cards?

Although i'm not surprised you think a guy getting his ass handed to him for 12 rounds was doing well, didn't you think Floyd beat Maidana?

I didn't think he was winning, far from it. Wach is about like Lurch from the Adams family. He was stopped on a cut, correct?

Yes, Floyd did beat Maidana, twice. The first was closer than the second. Quit crying, go to

Badhusker wrote: I didn't think he was winning, far from it. Wach is about like Lurch from the Adams family. He was stopped on a cut, correct?

Yes, Floyd did beat Maidana, twice. The first was closer than the second. Quit crying, go to

Yes he was stopped in the last round with a mangled eye after the 1-sided beating he took, which begs the question why you quoted me in the first place. Much like your entire boxrec posting history, it was completely pointless

Ricky_ wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Povetkin has improved since then.

Huck is too small.

So are Povetkin, Chagaev and Glazkov...and a lot of other guys that should be in cruiser or even light-heavy, but come for HW money, risking their health.

Povetkin is about 6'3 and 230+ lb. He just took apart one of the biggest HWs in Wach. He was clearly much bigger than Huck when they shared a ring.

You're exaggerating - Povetkin is 6'2" tops and looks chubby when fighting in the 220s. I don't think he could make cruiserweight now at 36, but I have no doubt he could have in his 20s. I disagree that he looked much bigger than Huck - they were very similar in height, while Povetkin had the thicker body and more fat.

To answer the original question - given how competitive he was against Povetkin, you've got to give Huck a good chance of doing well at heavyweight, although his style wouldn't do him any favours against the big heavyweights.

tigermoth87 wrote:Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

You don't think 6'2" Povetkin would have reasonable success against those listed fighters? Or supposedly 6'3" but reportedly 6'2" David Haye? How about a prime 5'10" Mike Tyson?

Seriously, the importance of height in boxing is massively overstated by so many here. A lack of height can be an advantage too, if the fighter has the speed, athleticism and coordination to use it.

jezzamundo wrote:
You're exaggerating - Povetkin is 6'2" tops and looks chubby when fighting in the 220s. I don't think he could make cruiserweight now at 36, but I have no doubt he could have in his 20s. I disagree that he looked much bigger than Huck - they were very similar in height, while Povetkin had the thicker body and more fat.

To answer the original question - given how competitive he was against Povetkin, you've got to give Huck a good chance of doing well at heavyweight, although his style wouldn't do him any favours against the big heavyweights.

Perhaps Povetkin could have made Cruiser when he was younger but he's a bigger guy than David Haye who eventually moved up.

Huck did excellent vs Povetkin, was a while agothough, i think i actually had him winning. It is very clear though that Povetkin was the bonafide heavyweight, simply looked like a weightclass above in both his weight and his punching power. It's also clear that Povetkin has significantly improved since then, and i'd argue Huck has regressed.

He was coming off the back of a KO loss to known territory against a guy he's fought 4 times now. What could he achieve as a Heavy... something better than Adamek or Cunningham? Can't see it, his style is all wrong for bigger men.

tigermoth87 wrote:Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

I agree that you have to be a lot more skilled to beat someone who's a few inches taller as you, but let's get real, Povetkin is simply a lot more skilled as any of those fighters, that's why he's still a top contender.

asdfjkl wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

I agree that you have to be a lot more skilled to beat someone who's a few inches taller as you, but let's get real, Povetkin is simply a lot more skilled as any of those fighters, that's why he's still a top contender.

I agree, Povetkin is. Which is why I said he's the last of the good small heavyweights. But he's getting on a bit, doesn't hve long left and once he's gone I just think the division is going to be dominated by the big guys mentioned.

jezzamundo wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

You don't think 6'2" Povetkin would have reasonable success against those listed fighters? Or supposedly 6'3" but reportedly 6'2" David Haye? How about a prime 5'10" Mike Tyson?

Seriously, the importance of height in boxing is massively overstated by so many here. A lack of height can be an advantage too, if the fighter has the speed, athleticism and coordination to use it.

I agree. Being tall confers advantages but also disadvantages, such as a bigger target area.

I'd like to see him move up...He's accomplished enough at cruiserweight. I thought he eeked out a Dec over Povetkin, could have went either way. I don't believe this Povetkin is a better fighter now for a minute. Style makes fights, he obviously gonna have probs against the big dudes but guys Povetkins size would be good for him.

He'd be a solid, borderline top 10 HW. A bit higher than Tarver and Cunningham but not one of the elites.

I'd rather see him as a CW fighting other top CWs.

He beat povetkin. He could be a factor.

Many of the so-called top heavyweights now have mediocre skills and rely on their size and weight to maul opponents. Most of their victims are card-carrying members of the pork 'n bean brigade. It's only a matter of time before we see a determined, really skilled normal sized heavyweight who can punch hard enough to put these failed basketball players on their backsides. Povetkin and Haye are/were very close to it.

tigermoth87 wrote:Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

not so sure about that. a prime mike
tyson would make a lot of timber fall.

tigermoth87 wrote:Nah

He's too small with the current crop of 6'4 + boxers coming threw. Honestly think Povetkin may be the last of the good, "small" heavyweights.

The main young fighters who are going to be ruling the division for years are

Fury - 6'9
Wilder - 6'7
Parker - 6'4
Joshua - 6'6
Ortiz - 6'4
Browne - 6'5
Helenius - 6'6
Granat - 6'7
Hughie - 6'6


Heavyweight division is huge now, no way is a 6'2 guy going to have any reasonable success.

Ortiz and Browne are turning 37 next month, and Helenius hasn't looked the same since his surgeries and time on the shelf.

I'm a big fan of Granat and like Hughie, but we have not idea how they will do on the world stage.

That leaves Fury, Wilder, Joshua, and Parker. Parker is hardly a behemoth, and Wilder and Fury have both had issues with "small" fighters.

I think it's very premature to think successful Heavies under 6'2 are a thing of the past.