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British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 21:05
by Horse
1. (1.) Tyson Fury
2. (2.) James DeGale
3. (4.) Carl Frampton
4. (3.) Kell Brook
5. (5.) Amir Khan
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (8.) Lee Selby
8. (9.) Martin Murray
9. (10.) Billy Joe Saunders
10. (7.) Scott Quigg

11. (12.) Tony Bellew
12. (13.) George Groves
13. (14.) Lee Haskins
14. (15.) Terry Flanagan
15. (16.) Andy Lee (Irish)
16. (17.) Ricky Burns
17. (11.) Ola Afolabi
18. (18.) Anthony Crolla
19. (19.) Ovill McKenzie
20. (20.) Callum Smith

21. (21.) Nathan Cleverly
22. (22.) Chris Eubank Jr.
23. (23.) Anthony Joshua
24. (24.) Liam Smith
25. (25.) David Haye
26. (28.) Gavin McDonnell
27. (26.) Paul Butler
28. (27.) Enzo Maccarinelli
29. (29.) Ryan Farrag
30. (30.) Sam Eggington

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 21:05
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 21:25
by mickey1975
Yes, Murray deserves to be 17 places above Haye, based on getting beat every time he's fought someone who hits back...

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 22:15
by forcefraser
Boomer ahead of at least 3 World champs?

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 01:59
by Old Jack J
:maybe:

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 02:59
by tobyh5
At this stage of his career, Burns too high. Murray is good but still not won the big fights. Bellew above men who have won and hold world titles based on what? Who is his best win? (Masternak aint all that)

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 04:12
by Stuarty
Agree that Bellew and Murray are too high. Flanagan still not high enough (underrated IMO). Burns has been awful quiet recently. Good list though :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 04:32
by fightfan95
Murray, Bellew, Burns, Afolabi, Mckenzie need to be a little bit lower.

Callum Smith, Chris Eubank Jr, Anthony Crolla, Terry Flanagan need to be a little higher.

Good list though.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 04:52
by Andrew
For me

Khan and Brook swap

Murray too high about 18 ideal

Same for Bellew 19 ideal

Flanagan at 10

Otherwise I agree

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 04:56
by Boxerbeetle
Murray is absurdly high as usual. Bellew is also much too high.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 04:57
by handsofstone
Where's Gavin Rees?

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 05:00
by ShadrachSimmo
handsofstone wrote:Where's Gavin Rees?
Or Jim Watt?

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 05:02
by Pugilist-specialist
forcefraser wrote:Boomer ahead of at least 3 World champs?


Horse is a little confused after watching the Creed movie :lol: :lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 05:16
by keirw
Frampton and McDonnell move up slightly, Quigg and Afolabi move down slightly, can't really argue with any of that, but it has been another boring month for boxing in the UK, let's hope March is more interesting.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 05:22
by davie
keirw wrote:Frampton and McDonnell move up slightly, Quigg and Afolabi move down slightly, can't really argue with any of that, but it has been another boring month for boxing in the UK, let's hope March is more interesting.
This, all the changes which were made were spot on.

It's the longstanding issue of over-rating a certain Evertonian that gets me.

I won't bother pushing that one though, Horse has never budged on it before now, he's not likely to listen this month :maybe:

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 06:25
by danamba7
Just out of interest, would Khan go up to no. 1 with a win over Canelo?

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 07:52
by dr_devious
8, 9, 10 should be Quigg, Flanagan and BJS for me, Murray isn't top 10.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 08:10
by cocobongo
I think Caterall should be in the top 30 but apart from that wouldn't have any more than maybe a couple of spot moves for a few of them

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:17
by Horse
mickey1975 wrote:Yes, Murray deserves to be 17 places above Haye, based on getting beat every time he's fought someone who hits back...
Haye's record over the last 5 years: Wladimir Klitschko (lost), Dereck Chisora & Mark de Mori.

In the last 5 years the best thing that he had done is beat Dereck Chisora, a fighter who isn't in my P4P top 30.

Haye is lucky to even be in the rankings.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:18
by Horse
forcefraser wrote:Boomer ahead of at least 3 World champs?
4 world champs.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:19
by Davidreed
Fury never deserve no 1

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:42
by mickey1975
Davidreed wrote:Fury never deserve no 1
He has by far the best win on anyone's record. I mean, like, by far!

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:48
by Horse
tobyh5 wrote:At this stage of his career, Burns too high. Murray is good but still not won the big fights. Bellew above men who have won and hold world titles based on what? Who is his best win? (Masternak aint all that)
Burns was unlucky not to get the win against Figueroa last year. I think Burns deserves to remain above some of the less proven fighters below him for now.

Bellew has a pretty deep and solid record: Masternak, Cleverly, Chilemba, Chilemba (draw), Miranda, McIntosh, Cleverly (close loss), McKenzie x2 & Ajisafe.

Flanagan's is less deep: Magdaleno, Zepeda (injury), Ormond, Gethin, Campbell, Prizefighter, James.

I think Bellew has a better record than the world champions below him and I think that he currently deserves to be above them. If Flanagan beats Mathews this month then he might overtake Bellew.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:50
by Horse
Stuarty30 wrote:Agree that Bellew and Murray are too high. Flanagan still not high enough (underrated IMO). Burns has been awful quiet recently. Good list though :TU:
If Murray had been given all of the close decisions then he'd be considered a world P4P contender.

Murray is very underrated by British boxing fans.

Re: British Top 30 P4P March 2016

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:51
by Stuarty
mickey1975 wrote:
Davidreed wrote:Fury never deserve no 1
He has by far the best win on anyone's record. I mean, like, by far!
He's probably the only one who you could call the best at his weight with any degree of certainty because of his win over Wlad. JDG is arguably the best at supermiddle and Frampton is up there at SuperBantam but the shadow of Rigo will always be there until they fight.