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funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 10:50
by man
i wonder if guys like fury are in very good
shape and just look like as if they aren't or
if it is actually just a reflection of how they
are really doing.

so my question is: how many miles can
wlad run on a daily basis and how many
can fury.

my guess
wlad: 5
fury: 2

and yes, i have f^cking no idea of their real
training regime.

(btw english speaking world: be ashamed that
i have to make this in miles and not in kilometers.
your ignorance of the metric system is a disgrace
to the civilised world.)

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 10:56
by Oiky
2 and 5 miles? are you sure?
both can run alot more than that. funny question? "stupid" would be more suitable :doh:

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 11:10
by jezzamundo
Wlad looks like an adonis while Furry looks like Joe average, but Fury has always had better stamina.

How many miles/km CAN they run or DO they run? I'm sure both can run far further than you have suggested - they are elite athletes.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 11:32
by greg
...definitely a lot more than that, both of them...thinking of the good old day in the army, we used to do that and much more on a regular basis in full military gear, gas mask, kalashnikov, etc... :OhYes:

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:05
by man
Oiky wrote:2 and 5 miles? are you sure?
both can run alot more than that. funny question? "stupid" would be more suitable :doh:
maybe yes. i have no idea about men
of that size and i figure things are
different up there. i doubt wlad or fury
for that matter run 15 miles routinely,
maybe 10, but my guess is rather lower
because they are very tall men and i figure
a trainer would not like them to do much
more than that in order to save the joints.

my guess is for wlad around five miles of
running as a routine max and additional
cardio with swimming. and for fury i have
my doubts due to his physique.

other weight classes are different i guess.
floyd probably runs 15 miles with ease,
same bernard hopkins.

but since my guesses are stupid what are
yours? wlad 20, fury 15?

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:11
by Ricky_
I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:11
by man
jezzamundo wrote:Wlad looks like an adonis while Furry looks like Joe average, but Fury has always had better stamina.

How many miles/km CAN they run or DO they run? I'm sure both can run far further than you have suggested - they are elite athletes.
i meant like a routine in training camp.
not like the furthest distance they can
force themselves to go.

i for one am not sure if running is so
much of a standard routine as it used
to be and if you are not used to longer
distance then you can simply gas out,
even if you are a top athlete in other
respects. i imagine 2m sized boxers
don't run long distance these days.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:13
by man
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
fury 10, really?

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:15
by Oiky
man wrote:
Oiky wrote:2 and 5 miles? are you sure?
both can run alot more than that. funny question? "stupid" would be more suitable :doh:
maybe yes. i have no idea about men
of that size and i figure things are
different up there. i doubt wlad or fury
for that matter run 15 miles routinely,
maybe 10, but my guess is rather lower
because they are very tall men and i figure
a trainer would not like them to do much
more than that in order to save the joints.

my guess is for wlad around five miles of
running as a routine max and additional
cardio with swimming. and for fury i have
my doubts due to his physique.

other weight classes are different i guess.
floyd probably runs 15 miles with ease,
same bernard hopkins.

but since my guesses are stupid what are
yours? wlad 20, fury 15?
i doubt fury would run 15mile routinely aswell due to the joints but 5 and 2 miles is ridicolous. fury himself has stated at times hes just completed a 7mile run.

i'd say both of them definitely run a minimum of 5mile, and as you say do supplement cardio with swimming and fixed gear bikes etc but they can definitely run 7-10mile.

your guesses were stupid lol, regardless of a mans size, its different if they were obese and unfit but these are elite boxers so a guess of 5 and 2 was very confusing mate, 20 and 15 is also a stupid suggestion, you don't want to burn yourself out and over train, on top of all the sparring, s&c workouts and everything else, and bringing the weight back into it that probably would be counter productive so i'm stil saying they run between 7-10, but if they wanted to and weren't going to spar or do anything else that day they would could run much further, they're proper athletes

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:16
by Ricky_
man wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
fury 10, really?
10 miles is only 16km.

I see old women run 10km races for charities with little training all the time

Theese are world championship boxers. If a fighter can't run 16km he probably shouldn't be in the ring. Maybe an old George Foreman type guy is the exception.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:24
by man
Ricky_ wrote:
man wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
fury 10, really?
10 miles is only 16km.

I see old women run 10km races for charities with little training all the time

Theese are world championship boxers. If a fighter can't run 16km he probably shouldn't be in the ring. Maybe an old George Foreman type guy is the exception.
i hear you.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:25
by Ricky_
Fury probably ran about 10 miles in the wlad fight :lol:

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:29
by man
Oiky wrote:i doubt fury would run 15mile routinely aswell due to the joints but 5 and 2 miles is ridicolous. fury himself has stated at times hes just completed a 7mile run.

i'd say both of them definitely run a minimum of 5mile, and as you say do supplement cardio with swimming and fixed gear bikes etc but they can definitely run 7-10mile.

your guesses were stupid lol, regardless of a mans size
i would have thought size plays a role,
but you seem to know better. what i
meant was a daily routine. in camp, on
a daily basis, what would each man do.

i just can't see fury run seven miles each
day in camp, i can't.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:35
by ikorolev
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
Are you 6'6" 250-pounder ? Also, the OP needs to define "running". Any athlete at this level can jog for 30-40 minutes, but can Fury run with a decent speed for so long ?

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:42
by man
ikorolev wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
Are you 6'6" 250-pounder ? Also, the OP needs to define "running". Any athlete at this level can jog for 30-40 minutes, but can Fury run with a decent speed for so long ?
i just meant what kind of routine can
they sustain on a daily basis in camp.
and i guess "running" for boxers always
means more or less ... "jogging".

still doubt that wlad can do daily 10m
or fury daily 5. don't think a 250pound
frame can sustain that and especially not
tyson's.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:43
by man
Ricky_ wrote:I see old women run 10km races for charities with little training all the time
if she can do that on a daily basis, she's
not that old or doesn't have that little
training.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:45
by Oiky
man wrote:
Oiky wrote:i doubt fury would run 15mile routinely aswell due to the joints but 5 and 2 miles is ridicolous. fury himself has stated at times hes just completed a 7mile run.

i'd say both of them definitely run a minimum of 5mile, and as you say do supplement cardio with swimming and fixed gear bikes etc but they can definitely run 7-10mile.

your guesses were stupid lol, regardless of a mans size
i would have thought size plays a role,
but you seem to know better. what i
meant was a daily routine. in camp, on
a daily basis, what would each man do.

i just can't see fury run seven miles each
day in camp, i can't.
size would play a role but they will still be able to run over 10mile.
i reckon on a daily basis they would still run 6-7mile yeah its not too much, on a day where they aren't sparring they would run way more than that, or on a day where they aren't doing many other cardio stuff they would have a real big run.

but a 6-7mile run to a pro athlete is miniscule, that is something they'd wake up and do in the morning just to open up the lungs.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 12:46
by ikorolev
man wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:I ran about 4 miles this morning without breaking that much sweat in truth, yet i don't think i have the fitness required to box 4 or 5 rounds but these guys train / spar / box for 12. So i think the answer is that either are more than capable of pulling on a pair of shorts and running 10+ miles fairly easily.
Are you 6'6" 250-pounder ? Also, the OP needs to define "running". Any athlete at this level can jog for 30-40 minutes, but can Fury run with a decent speed for so long ?
i just meant what kind of routine can
they sustain on a daily basis in camp.
and i guess "running" for boxers always
means more or less ... "jogging".

still doubt that wlad can do daily 10m
or fury daily 5. don't think a 250pound
frame can sustain that and especially not
tyson's.
Prime Tyson could definitely run well. It is height combined with weight which could cause issues, specifically with joints.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 13:15
by jamesmcdonnell
Long training runs really aren't that important for boxers, they aren't endurance runners going at a steady state.

The main reason I can see for the reliance of boxing trainers of long runs, is the belief it was good for keeping weight down.

I know some modern fighters do internal and sprint training, as it requires less time, and get results far quicker.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 13:16
by jamesmcdonnell
Oiky wrote:
man wrote:
Oiky wrote:i doubt fury would run 15mile routinely aswell due to the joints but 5 and 2 miles is ridicolous. fury himself has stated at times hes just completed a 7mile run.

i'd say both of them definitely run a minimum of 5mile, and as you say do supplement cardio with swimming and fixed gear bikes etc but they can definitely run 7-10mile.

your guesses were stupid lol, regardless of a mans size
i would have thought size plays a role,
but you seem to know better. what i
meant was a daily routine. in camp, on
a daily basis, what would each man do.

i just can't see fury run seven miles each
day in camp, i can't.
size would play a role but they will still be able to run over 10mile.
i reckon on a daily basis they would still run 6-7mile yeah its not too much, on a day where they aren't sparring they would run way more than that, or on a day where they aren't doing many other cardio stuff they would have a real big run.

but a 6-7mile run to a pro athlete is miniscule, that is something they'd wake up and do in the morning just to open up the lungs.
Not men of that size. Terrible on the joints.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 14:25
by Rexob
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Long training runs really aren't that important for boxers, they aren't endurance runners going at a steady state.

The main reason I can see for the reliance of boxing trainers of long runs, is the belief it was good for keeping weight down.

I know some modern fighters do internal and sprint training, as it requires less time, and get results far quicker.

Not to sure about that, the long runs give you the stamina needed in longer fights? Didn't Froch used to do 19 milers or so, to really get the right stamina he required?

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 15:00
by davie
man wrote:
(btw english speaking world: be ashamed that
i have to make this in miles and not in kilometers.
your ignorance of the metric system is a disgrace
to the civilised world
.)
Your ignorance of trained athletes is surely the disgrace.

You don't have to be an expert on training regimes to know these guys can run further than that. Even if one of them does look a tad flabby.

I'm a 15st 7lb (98.5kg) 35 year old, who does very little training and likes pies and I can run 5 miles.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 15:48
by Oiky
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Oiky wrote:
man wrote: i would have thought size plays a role,
but you seem to know better. what i
meant was a daily routine. in camp, on
a daily basis, what would each man do.

i just can't see fury run seven miles each
day in camp, i can't.
size would play a role but they will still be able to run over 10mile.
i reckon on a daily basis they would still run 6-7mile yeah its not too much, on a day where they aren't sparring they would run way more than that, or on a day where they aren't doing many other cardio stuff they would have a real big run.

but a 6-7mile run to a pro athlete is miniscule, that is something they'd wake up and do in the morning just to open up the lungs.
Not men of that size. Terrible on the joints.
yeah i know pal i did agree with that a few posts up, just pointing out that they can run very far if they choose to as all pro athletes should but to do it often if bad on the joints yeah

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 07 Mar 2016, 16:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Rexob wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Long training runs really aren't that important for boxers, they aren't endurance runners going at a steady state.

The main reason I can see for the reliance of boxing trainers of long runs, is the belief it was good for keeping weight down.

I know some modern fighters do internal and sprint training, as it requires less time, and get results far quicker.

Not to sure about that, the long runs give you the stamina needed in longer fights? Didn't Froch used to do 19 milers or so, to really get the right stamina he required?
He may have believed that to be the case, but that doesn't make it so. Current scientific evidence suggests that long runs are not necessary to build stamina - what is, is periods of exertion and rest, repeated over and over.

A 19 mile run has very different demands on the human body, to a 12 round fight with 1 minute rest periods. Boxing is far more explosive, and requires the fighter to produce very large amounts of energy in short periods, and then recover quick enough to remain active, very unlike fighting. At the end of the day, the exercises need to simulate the demands placed on the fighter's body.

Some long runs might be beneficial, but certainly not out doing long slogs every day.

Re: funny question comparing wlad and fury

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 01:30
by Lancenix
Wlad has been fooling around at the beach a lot with his wife who was recently released from a clinic. Still no fight contract. Will there even be a fight?