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How comfortable are Boxing fans about these risky Megafight tune-up bouts scheduled for GGG, Canelo, Ward and Kovalev (TBA)? There's a good chance all four of them win their fights and we still only see 1 of the 2 fights happen in 2016. There's also a chance that all four win and none of the fights get made. But lets get by the first hurdle with these stupid tune-ups.

None of them are losing... and i doubt Kov-Ward is a "megafight"... in the words of FMjr, Ward couldn't sell a ticket to his own mother.

Hopefully they all lose except GGG.

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If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

I agree that Khan may get the decision over GingerHead, who already has a loss and a couple of very close decisions. A close, controversial decision could go to Khan, setting up a huge rematch, preempting the 3G fight.

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

I agree that Khan may get the decision over GingerHead, who already has a loss and a couple of very close decisions. A close, controversial decision could go to Khan, setting up a huge rematch, preempting the 3G fight.

You two smoking crack.

If this fight is real, Canelo is going to make Khan look like Josesito Lopez.
There are guys at 140 who would ice Khan.

Get real!

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

I agree that Khan may get the decision over GingerHead, who already has a loss and a couple of very close decisions. A close, controversial decision could go to Khan, setting up a huge rematch, preempting the 3G fight.

You two smoking crack.

If this fight is real, Canelo is going to make Khan look like Josesito Lopez.
There are guys at 140 who would ice Khan.

Get real!

Maybe he will and maybe Khan will make GingerHead look like Devon Alexander.

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

Exactly. Too many people have their heads in the sand about this fight jumping on the Canelo bandwagon. They forget how outclassed he looked against the speed and movement of FMJ and Lara. I'm not a Khan enthusiast, by any means, but this is a guy that was purposely avoided by Floyd and Manny the years they reigned atop the division and it was for good reason.

Watching the fight in my mind, i have Khan putting on a combo clinic in the early rounds with Canelo pushing the tempo. Canelo's pressure will get harder and harder for Khan to traverse and it will get real dicey late for Khan. Khan's gotta be in ridiculous shape to get through this one standing. Then there's the Vegas Judges love for Canelo to deal with. Either way, this fight is going to better than everyone thinks...i think.

I can see all 4 winning reasonably comfortably.

The only one I give a chance to is Khan but that's a long shot.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

I agree that Khan may get the decision over GingerHead, who already has a loss and a couple of very close decisions. A close, controversial decision could go to Khan, setting up a huge rematch, preempting the 3G fight.

You two smoking crack.

If this fight is real, Canelo is going to make Khan look like Josesito Lopez.
There are guys at 140 who would ice Khan.

Get real!

Really? Did you watch the Lara fight? Why couldn't Kahn fight a fight like Lara except be a little bit more engaged and pull it out in the end?? Lara almost beat Alvarez. Why are you acting like he is unbeatable??

caldo2025 wrote:

Lancenix wrote:If I had to pick one it would be Alvarez vs. kahn. I just feel Alvarez can be outboxed. Kahn is going to move and make it ugly if he has to. Cotto is eroded and fought Alvarez at least somewhat close. I think Kahn could do it.

Exactly. Too many people have their heads in the sand about this fight jumping on the Canelo bandwagon. They forget how outclassed he looked against the speed and movement of FMJ and Lara. I'm not a Khan enthusiast, by any means, but this is a guy that was purposely avoided by Floyd and Manny the years they reigned atop the division and it was for good reason.

Watching the fight in my mind, i have Khan putting on a combo clinic in the early rounds with Canelo pushing the tempo. Canelo's pressure will get harder and harder for Khan to traverse and it will get real dicey late for Khan. Khan's gotta be in ridiculous shape to get through this one standing. Then there's the Vegas Judges love for Canelo to deal with. Either way, this fight is going to better than everyone thinks...i think.

This is really good analysis actually. You are saying the same thing as I am. We are not outright picking Kahn to win but the possibility with the right strategy is there for a Kahn win. People act like this is going to be like the Kirkland fight. It will be nothing like that. It will be more like the Lara and Cotto fight and Alvarez is gonna hate the speed and the movement. Floyd beat Alvarez easily at 152 and Kahn is fighting at 155. Why can't he compete?

Lancenix wrote:Really? Did you watch the Lara fight? Why couldn't Kahn fight a fight like Lara except be a little bit more engaged and pull it out in the end?? Lara almost beat Alvarez. Why are you acting like he is unbeatable??

Why couldn't I play basketball like Kobe Bryant?

Upsets can always happen, but I expect the favorites to win those matchups.

Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Cygnus475 wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

He has improved under Hunter and his shot selection has improved. But it will be interesting to see if he reverts to type under pressure and goes back to throwing the 4,5or6 punches again.

Lancenix wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Tanzio wrote: I agree that Khan may get the decision over GingerHead, who already has a loss and a couple of very close decisions. A close, controversial decision could go to Khan, setting up a huge rematch, preempting the 3G fight.

You two smoking crack.

If this fight is real, Canelo is going to make Khan look like Josesito Lopez.
There are guys at 140 who would ice Khan.

Get real!

Really? Did you watch the Lara fight? Why couldn't Kahn fight a fight like Lara except be a little bit more engaged and pull it out in the end?? Lara almost beat Alvarez. Why are you acting like he is unbeatable??

Lara has never been knocked out or stopped by even the hardest at 154.

Cygnus475 wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Cotto with all of his vulnerabilities can still take a better punch than Khan can.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Lancenix wrote:Really? Did you watch the Lara fight? Why couldn't Kahn fight a fight like Lara except be a little bit more engaged and pull it out in the end?? Lara almost beat Alvarez. Why are you acting like he is unbeatable??

Why couldn't I play basketball like Kobe Bryant?

Um your comment is dumb. More like why couldn't BAD Intentions core more than 400 on the SAT's??

Cygnus475 wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Exactly. Good post.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Cygnus475 wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Cotto with all of his vulnerabilities can still take a better punch than Khan can.

Really? He got knocked loose by Corley and chop chop was coming up in wight.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: You two smoking crack.

If this fight is real, Canelo is going to make Khan look like Josesito Lopez.
There are guys at 140 who would ice Khan.

Get real!

Really? Did you watch the Lara fight? Why couldn't Kahn fight a fight like Lara except be a little bit more engaged and pull it out in the end?? Lara almost beat Alvarez. Why are you acting like he is unbeatable??

Lara has never been knocked out or stopped by even the hardest at 154.

Kahn can win this fight. The question was which of these 4 fights can there be an upset in? Then when some of us entertain his question and pick o ne of the four people get all sour. I am picking one of the four, make your pick. We know these are all underdogs.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Cygnus475 wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Lara and mayweather have fast feet and that gave Canelo problems.
Khan doesn't have fast feet. His hand speed is incredible but apart from a few rounds in the Peterson fight his foot speed has never been as good as the above mentioned fighters.

To beat Canelo he's got to throw 2-3 punches and move. Usually he stands there and throws 5-6 punches and gets caught moving out. He can't do that against Canelo.
Also Khan is a exciting fighter who lets his heart rule his head at times. He can't do that against Canelo but I expect him to get brave and trade at some point like he did with Maidana and Garcia.

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Cotto with all of his vulnerabilities can still take a better punch than Khan can.

Canelo is getting way too much credit for beating an old overrated midget in Cotto who had an unusual lack of pop on his punches that night in the ring. Cotto was pushing his right hand, almost slapping at times and that's why he turned to the jab as his primary and only weapon that night. Khan has been taking punches way better at 147 too. Hasn't been buzzed yet.

caldo2025 wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Cygnus475 wrote:

Clearly you haven't seen any of his fights since Garcia and maidana. Khan is completely different now.

Against Alexander and collazo he threw 2-3 punches then immediately backed off and kept circling. He only threw more when he saw a clear opening or the opponent was on the ropes. And he doesn't trade punches or attempt to go out on bis shield anymore. When he hurt he actually backs off or clinches and will smother anyone attempting to fight on the inside.

No one is saying he has the footwork and speed of mayweather, but neither does COTTO and even Cotto was able to slip and weave and keep canelo plodding after him for all 12 rounds.

Cotto with all of his vulnerabilities can still take a better punch than Khan can.

Canelo is getting way too much credit for beating an old overrated midget in Cotto who had an unusual lack of pop on his punches that night in the ring. Cotto was pushing his right hand, almost slapping at times and that's why he turned to the jab as his primary and only weapon that night. Khan has been taking punches way better at 147 too. Hasn't been buzzed yet.

Yep that's a good point. They are acting like canelo is indestructible.