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Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:09
by Oiky
vs. Michele Di Rocco.

what ever has this guy done to deserve another title shot :doh: . ridicolous...

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:12
by Horse
Oiky wrote:vs. Michele Di Rocco.

what ever has this guy done to deserve another title shot :doh: . ridicolous...
Being a two weight world champion.

There's nothing wrong with him getting this title shot.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:20
by Oiky
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:vs. Michele Di Rocco.

what ever has this guy done to deserve another title shot :doh: . ridicolous...
Being a two weight world champion.

There's nothing wrong with him getting this title shot.
yeah and that was a great achievement for a fighter who is rather limited but as of late, nothing warrants this at all he looked absolutely dreadful vs. figueroa.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:24
by Horse
Oiky wrote:yeah and that was a great achievement for a fighter who is rather limited but as of late, nothing warrants this at all he looked absolutely dreadful vs. figueroa.
Burns arguably deserved the decision against Figueroa. He didn't look awful in that fight.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:25
by Oiky
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:yeah and that was a great achievement for a fighter who is rather limited but as of late, nothing warrants this at all he looked absolutely dreadful vs. figueroa.
Burns arguably deserved the decision against Figueroa. He didn't look awful in that fight.
constantly holding and all the rest of it, bit awkward in a way sakio bika was for calzaghe.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:56
by crusader
Title aside it's a solid fight.

Maybe Burns will eventually become a Broner-esque four division champ.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:08
by liamlion
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:yeah and that was a great achievement for a fighter who is rather limited but as of late, nothing warrants this at all he looked absolutely dreadful vs. figueroa.
Burns arguably deserved the decision against Figueroa. He didn't look awful in that fight.

No, he really didnt. Lets be sensible now. He was hanging on for much of the fight after about 6 rounds. It was a brave and plucky performance but he no way deserved the decision.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:13
by Oiky
yeah he definitely did not deserve that decision.

in my opinion, horse, if you think he deserved that decision mate i don't think scoring fights is a strong point of yours

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:16
by rd350lc
agreed , no way he won that fight , totally shot to pieces , seems like a really nice bloke tho' and wish him all the best .

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:28
by Horse
liamlion wrote:No, he really didnt. Lets be sensible now. He was hanging on for much of the fight after about 6 rounds. It was a brave and plucky performance but he no way deserved the decision.
Plenty of people thought that he deserved it, so you are wrong.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:29
by Horse
Oiky wrote:yeah he definitely did not deserve that decision.

in my opinion, horse, if you think he deserved that decision mate i don't think scoring fights is a strong point of yours
In my opinion, you don't have a clue.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:47
by Oiky
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:yeah he definitely did not deserve that decision.

in my opinion, horse, if you think he deserved that decision mate i don't think scoring fights is a strong point of yours
In my opinion, you don't have a clue.
never saw that reply coming... :o :lol: :lol:

you can throw the "many people thought he won it" card out all you want... but many people also agree with liamlion and i and think that he lost it because he kept holding so what does that even prove to say many people thought this or that? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

you can't state someone is wrong because they don't agree with your opinion, you had no part at all in scoring the fight (thank god) and had no power in the decision so you are just another man with an opinion, nobody is right or wrong, the fight was scored how it was, it is what it is, and rightfully so burns lost :TU:

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 18:02
by Horse
Oiky wrote:never saw that reply coming... :o :lol: :lol:

you can throw the "many people thought he won it" card out all you want... but many people also agree with liamlion and i and think that he lost it because he kept holding so what does that even prove to say many people thought this or that? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

you can't state someone is wrong because they don't agree with your opinion, you had no part at all in scoring the fight (thank god) and had no power in the decision so you are just another man with an opinion, nobody is right or wrong, the fight was scored how it was, it is what it is, and rightfully so burns lost :TU:
You are wrong.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 18:20
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:never saw that reply coming... :o :lol: :lol:

you can throw the "many people thought he won it" card out all you want... but many people also agree with liamlion and i and think that he lost it because he kept holding so what does that even prove to say many people thought this or that? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

you can't state someone is wrong because they don't agree with your opinion, you had no part at all in scoring the fight (thank god) and had no power in the decision so you are just another man with an opinion, nobody is right or wrong, the fight was scored how it was, it is what it is, and rightfully so burns lost :TU:
You are wrong.
one day horse you will agree with what another person says. One day you will not say 'you are wrong' you will say. 'I fully agree with you'

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 18:22
by Shambles
mimmy123 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Oiky wrote:never saw that reply coming... :o :lol: :lol:

you can throw the "many people thought he won it" card out all you want... but many people also agree with liamlion and i and think that he lost it because he kept holding so what does that even prove to say many people thought this or that? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

you can't state someone is wrong because they don't agree with your opinion, you had no part at all in scoring the fight (thank god) and had no power in the decision so you are just another man with an opinion, nobody is right or wrong, the fight was scored how it was, it is what it is, and rightfully so burns lost :TU:
You are wrong.
one day horse you will agree with what another person says. One day you will not say 'you are wrong' you will say. 'I fully agree with you'
No.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 18:32
by handsofstone
We all know this isnt a world title fight for Burns,its the paper WBA belt,and i know the Di Rocco isnt an inspired opponent but he is a solid European level fighter which is what Ricky has shown himself to be since signing with Eddie

But back to the belt,most people can accept its not a world title but more and more we see the Regular belt paraded as a world title and the (only) good thing about that is that it attracts bigger fights against fighters trying to get back into the big time and sometimes even "unifications"

Ergo=we know this belts poo but if Burns can beat Di Rocco which im just about sure he can then Eddie's knows he's no time to eff about with Ricky so we should see Burns get a swansong in a big fight in Glasgow where Camp Ed can try and claw back some of the money he's lost in signing him

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 18:34
by Oiky
handsofstone wrote:We all know this isnt a world title fight for Burns,its the paper WBA belt,and i know the Di Rocco isnt an inspired opponent but he is a solid European level fighter which is what Ricky has shown himself to be since signing with Eddie

But back to the belt,most people can accept its not a world title but more and more we see the Regular belt paraded as a world title and the (only) good thing about that is that it attracts bigger fights against fighters trying to get back into the big time and sometimes even "unifications"

Ergo=we know this belts poo but if Burns can beat Di Rocco which im just about sure he can then Eddie's knows he's no time to eff about with Ricky so we should see Burns get a swansong in a big fight in Glasgow where Camp Ed can try and claw back some of the money he's lost in signing him
good post with good points.

didn't eddie at one point try and say burns was the best fighter to come out of scotland? :lol: :lol:

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 00:13
by Emmseegee
Im kind of somewhere in-between the opinions regarding the Figueroa fight. I think Burns made a decent account of himself, the referee was very quick to pull Ricky up on his fouling but seemed to have the blinkers on whenever the home fighter was guilty of similar tactics. Ricky may not have won the fight but he was in there against two men that night, if anyone thinks im exaggerating then they should watch the fight back. A fair referee that night and i reckon Figueroa may well have found himself in a different fight.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 00:56
by Wales
Burns fighting For the wba world super lightweight title

Not to be confused with the wba super world superlightweight title broner and theophane will contest

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 05:11
by Stuarty
I don't begrudge Burns his shot here. He deserves a little luck.

As for the OF fight, I thought it was close. The scorecards and ref were shambolic. OF probably shaded it but Burns was up against it from the first bell.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 07:13
by broomy7s
What happened to Burns staying at lightweight and not venturing back unto light-welter..... Oh I see a paper title.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 08:30
by PredatorHayds
I'm glad he's got another shot he's looked good recently.
Can't remember my Figueroa scorecard will check later but I might of also had Burns edging it. He really showed some flaws in Omar's game and the referee was absolutely shocking against Burns.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 04:43
by Trojans44
No less an authority than Thomas Hauser scored it for Burns.

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 05:35
by liamlion
Horse wrote:
liamlion wrote:No, he really didnt. Lets be sensible now. He was hanging on for much of the fight after about 6 rounds. It was a brave and plucky performance but he no way deserved the decision.
Plenty of people thought that he deserved it, so you are wrong.
Name those 'plenty of people' and when did you conduct a pole or canvas such opinions? Your talking pish. Speak for yourself, never suggest to be speaking on behalf of others..

Re: Another title shot for Ricky Burns?

Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 05:39
by handsofstone
Trojans44 wrote:No less an authority than Thomas Hauser scored it for Burns.
He also had Bradley beating Pacquaio in their 1st fight,Hauser is a knowlegable chap but it seems he struggles to score fights

Like a lot of people on here :OhYes: