Canelo will duck GGG

[ikorolev]

He is now saying that he is a 154-pounder, so he will be insisting on 155 limit against GGG. Golovkin will never accept that, so Canelo will have to vacate, get stripped, or get WBC help him again allowing him to keep the belt.

http://www.BS.com/canelo-fight ... 60--102404?

[Tanzio]

He is now saying that he is a 154-pounder, so he will be insisting on 155 limit against GGG. Golovkin will never accept than, so Canelo will have to vacate, get stripped, or get WBC help him again allowing him to keep the belt.

http://www.BS.com/canelo-fight ... 60--102404?

We will see. I'm sure he wants to get it to as close to 155 as possible. I agree that it stinks. 3G needs to hold his ground and not drain unnecessarily.

[Oiky]

ODLH will keep canelo as far away from ggg as possible and canelo will be fine with that

i like canelo though, just my take on it

[Lancenix]

He is now saying that he is a 154-pounder, so he will be insisting on 155 limit against GGG. Golovkin will never accept than, so Canelo will have to vacate, get stripped, or get WBC help him again allowing him to keep the belt.

http://www.BS.com/canelo-fight ... 60--102404?

We will see. I'm sure he wants to get it to as close to 155 as possible. I agree that it stinks. 3G needs to hold his ground and not drain unnecessarily.

By WBC rules he will be stripped of the title if he and GGG both win and if he does not agree to a fight at 160 within 30 or 60 days. Abel Sanchez said that there will be no catchweight and Alvarez already knows this. Alvarez will not fight GGG. I think he will kill himself to get down to 154 as long as possible. GGG and Abel Sanchez have said there will absolutely be no catchweight and they want the WBC to strip Alvarez if he wins and does not agree to fight GGG at 160.

[dberry]

Of course Canelo will avoid GGG, he will most likely get his head punched in and lose a fair chunk of stock in the process. He will be smart to vacate the WBC title after the Khan fight and remain at junior middle (even though he's favourite to beat Khan, Khan may well fight the perfect fight and pull an upset here anyway), middleweight is no place for Canelo while GGG resides there.

[hurricanemitch14]

Fans need to boycott Canelo......Canelo and golden boy are being pathetic.....Ive been a die-hard fan for 25yrs and I've never seen anything like it.

[jujigatame]

I don't understand Canelo. He's not the type to duck tough fights. He fought Trout, Lara, Mayweather, Cotto. He really strikes me as a guy who would fight anyone. But this 155 limit thing is ridiculous. He and Golovkin are basically the exact same size in the ring. Hopefully this is just a negotiating tactic and it doesn't actually hold up the fight.

[ikorolev]

Fans need to boycott Canelo......Canelo and golden boy are being pathetic.....Ive been a die-hard fan for 25yrs and I've never seen anything like it.

Fans need to boycott all PPVs. PPVs and 8-digit purses need to die.

[Syntax Error]

If Alvarez wants to be a light middle, why doesn't he fight at 154?

It's gut wrenching to see the linear title of one of the sport's most celebrated divisions being virtually debauched by part-time light weltwerweights & ageing or lazy welterweights & light middleweights.

I get the feeling that Golovkin is going to pass us by & we will never truly know how great he was, because there just isn't anyone who wants to challenge him at 160.

[man]

I get the feeling that Golovkin is going to pass us by & we will never truly know how great he was, because there just isn't anyone who wants to challenge him at 160.

yes.

[Tanzio]

I get the feeling that Golovkin is going to pass us by & we will never truly know how great he was, because there just isn't anyone who wants to challenge him at 160.

yes.

Largely, it has already taken place.

[jas80s]

The whole thing kind of reminds me of how Hagler had to wait around and chase guys to get his shot because nobody wanted to fight him.

I think the fear for Canelo is that this could be some kind of Trinidad-Vargas type of fight that could take years (and a lot of money) off of Canelo's career. The danger of fighting Trout, Lara, and Mayweather is that he could look a little bad and possibly lose, while the danger of fighting GGG is that he could get KO"d or worse, be involved in a real war and THEN get KO'd; great for fans, terrible for his earning potential. I am not defending him, but I must admit, if I were an advisor, I would probably be looking for other fights for the time being (not forever). Boxing can be unfair sometimes, Golovkin is going to have to move up in order to get his money or continue to play the waiting game.

Middleweight title fights at anything other than 160 pounds is a joke. When did every fighter decide that giving away a couple of pounds meant that they could not possibly win??

[ikorolev]

The whole thing kind of reminds me of how Hagler had to wait around and chase guys to get his shot because nobody wanted to fight him.

I think the fear for Canelo is that this could be some kind of Trinidad-Vargas type of fight that could take years (and a lot of money) off of Canelo's career. The danger of fighting Trout, Lara, and Mayweather is that he could look a little bad and possibly lose, while the danger of fighting GGG is that he could get KO"d or worse, be involved in a real war and THEN get KO'd; great for fans, terrible for his earning potential. I am not defending him, but I must admit, if I were an advisor, I would probably be looking for other fights for the time being (not forever). Boxing can be unfair sometimes, Golovkin is going to have to move up in order to get his money or continue to play the waiting game.

Middleweight title fights at anything other than 160 pounds is a joke. When did every fighter decide that giving away a couple of pounds meant that they could not possibly win??

Trout, Lara and Mayweather didn't have power to stop Canelo, and he clearly enjoyed significant help from judges to get two wins and the MD loss. Against Golovkin, it will not get to the cards.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I get the feeling that Golovkin is going to pass us by & we will never truly know how great he was, because there just isn't anyone who wants to challenge him at 160.

yes.

Largely, it has already taken place.

Agreed, he's already at the end of his prime now, and will begin to deteriorate, he'll probably get a megafight when he's over the hill and slipped enough to be beatable. In terms of the big events happening, boxing as a sport sucks balls. My love of the sport has seriously waned these days, It's just not compelling any more, because the big fights either don't happen, happen too late, or don't deliver when they do happen.

[Cygnus475]

Ggg won't move up either, he has already flipped the script saying he will fight anyone from 154-168 and then changed his mind saying he wants to unify the middleweight belts before doing anything else.

If he flips the script again and moves up, he will either be a complete opportunistic liar or a moron who needs to fire his PR guy and fix his relationship with fans and networks. Dude is gonna hit a midlife crisis before he can hit the limelight.

I understand what his team is trying to do but it's a wolf playing a game of chicken with chickens. These guys don't care if they squander their time and prime or ruin their legacy as long as they make money.

On the other hand, both these guys are trying to maintain a size advantage. Both are naturally big and end up rehydrating to 170 or higher anyway. I can see right through the "I want to unify" claim because ggg was very hypocritical in who he'd be willing to move up to 168 for.

[ikorolev]

Ggg won't move up either, he has already flipped the script saying he will fight anyone from 154-168 and then changed his mind saying he wants to unify the middleweight belts before doing anything else.

If he flips the script again and moves up, he will either be a complete opportunistic liar or a moron who needs to fire his PR guy and fix his relationship with fans and networks. Dude is gonna hit a midlife crisis before he can hit the limelight.

I understand what his team is trying to do but it's a wolf playing a game of chicken with chickens. These guys don't care if they squander their time and prime or ruin their legacy as long as they make money.

On the other hand, both these guys are trying to maintain a size advantage. Both are naturally big and end up rehydrating to 170 or higher anyway. I can see right through the "I want to unify" claim because ggg was very hypocritical in who he'd be willing to move up to 168 for.

I have a better explanation -- you are an opportunistic liar and moron. Golovkin has a size advantage ??? Over Murray or Rubio who moved to 168 ??? Or over Lemieux who can't make even 163 ?

What exactly can you "see through" the "I want to unify" claim ??? That he wants to get all MW belts ? What does it have to do with optional fights at 168 when the money is right ?

[Cygnus475]

Ggg won't move up either, he has already flipped the script saying he will fight anyone from 154-168 and then changed his mind saying he wants to unify the middleweight belts before doing anything else.

If he flips the script again and moves up, he will either be a complete opportunistic liar or a moron who needs to fire his PR guy and fix his relationship with fans and networks. Dude is gonna hit a midlife crisis before he can hit the limelight.

I understand what his team is trying to do but it's a wolf playing a game of chicken with chickens. These guys don't care if they squander their time and prime or ruin their legacy as long as they make money.

On the other hand, both these guys are trying to maintain a size advantage. Both are naturally big and end up rehydrating to 170 or higher anyway. I can see right through the "I want to unify" claim because ggg was very hypocritical in who he'd be willing to move up to 168 for.

I have a better explanation -- you are an opportunistic liar and moron. Golovkin has a size advantage ??? Over Murray or Rubio who moved to 168 ??? Or over Lemieux who can't make even 163 ?

What exactly can you "see through" the "I want to unify" claim ??? That he wants to get all MW belts ? What does it have to do with optional fights at 168 when the money is right ?

Because when he was supposed to fight ward he made the excuse that he wanted to unify then all of a sudden he's interested in moving up to fight froch or chavez. Ward called him out on it, so he backed off and went back to his "I want to unify" platform.

Also saying "anyone from 154" then later clarifying "but only mayweather". It's called flip flopping and being an opportunist. Either he wants to unify or he doesnt.

[Tanzio]

Boycott 3G for avoiding Lara

[Lancenix]

yes.

Largely, it has already taken place.

Agreed, he's already at the end of his prime now, and will begin to deteriorate, he'll probably get a megafight when he's over the hill and slipped enough to be beatable. In terms of the big events happening, boxing as a sport sucks balls. My love of the sport has seriously waned these days, It's just not compelling any more, because the big fights either don't happen, happen too late, or don't deliver when they do happen.

Thank you and would you say that most of this is taking p[lace in North America?

[Lancenix]

Boycott 3G for avoiding Lara

Lara has not done anything to merit fighting GGG. If Lara wins a title GGG would be happy to fight him.

[Lancenix]

Ggg won't move up either, he has already flipped the script saying he will fight anyone from 154-168 and then changed his mind saying he wants to unify the middleweight belts before doing anything else.

If he flips the script again and moves up, he will either be a complete opportunistic liar or a moron who needs to fire his PR guy and fix his relationship with fans and networks. Dude is gonna hit a midlife crisis before he can hit the limelight.

I understand what his team is trying to do but it's a wolf playing a game of chicken with chickens. These guys don't care if they squander their time and prime or ruin their legacy as long as they make money.

On the other hand, both these guys are trying to maintain a size advantage. Both are naturally big and end up rehydrating to 170 or higher anyway. I can see right through the "I want to unify" claim because ggg was very hypocritical in who he'd be willing to move up to 168 for.

I have a better explanation -- you are an opportunistic liar and moron. Golovkin has a size advantage ??? Over Murray or Rubio who moved to 168 ??? Or over Lemieux who can't make even 163 ?

What exactly can you "see through" the "I want to unify" claim ??? That he wants to get all MW belts ? What does it have to do with optional fights at 168 when the money is right ?

His post was so stupid. Why even ask for justification of such stupidity?

[ikorolev]

Because when he was supposed to fight ward he made the excuse that he wanted to unify then all of a sudden he's interested in moving up to fight froch or chavez. Ward called him out on it, so he backed off and went back to his "I want to unify" platform.

Also saying "anyone from 154" then later clarifying "but only mayweather". It's called flip flopping and being an opportunist. Either he wants to unify or he doesnt.

You are clearly stupid, so I will repeat what was already said by multiple people.

1. Golovkin's status is steadily growing, so of course he becomes pickier in his choices.
2. "Anybody" from 154 to 168 has always been "anybody making sense" and what was making sense 2 years ago sometimes doesn't make it anymore. Only stupid ones don't understand that.
3. Ward was offered to fight GGG by HBO a couple years ago when Gennady was available and agreed to fight, but Andre preferred to fight Rodriguez.
4. When Ward made his "offer", Golovkin was preparing to unification fight with Lemieux and had realistic possibilities for other unification fights against Cotto/Canelo winner and Lee. Why would he instead select to fight an opponent who is 10 pounds heavier and can't draw sh!t ???

[Lancenix]

Because when he was supposed to fight ward he made the excuse that he wanted to unify then all of a sudden he's interested in moving up to fight froch or chavez. Ward called him out on it, so he backed off and went back to his "I want to unify" platform.

Also saying "anyone from 154" then later clarifying "but only mayweather". It's called flip flopping and being an opportunist. Either he wants to unify or he doesnt.

You are clearly stupid, so I will repeat what was already said by multiple people.

1. Golovkin's status is steadily growing, so of course he becomes pickier in his choices.
2. "Anybody" from 154 to 168 has always been "anybody making sense" and what was making sense 2 years ago sometimes doesn't make it anymore. Only stupid ones don't understand that.
3. Ward was offered to fight GGG by HBO a couple years ago when Gennady was available and agreed to fight, but Andre preferred to fight Rodriguez.
4. When Ward made his "offer", Golovkin was preparing to unification fight with Lemieux and had realistic possibilities for other unification fights against Cotto/Canelo winner and Lee. Why would he instead select to fight an opponent who is 10 pounds heavier and can't draw sh!t ???

If GGG was from America none of this discussion would be taking place from these posters.

[klitoris]

The best way boxing fans can respond to Canelo's ducking of GGG is to not buy the canelo-khan ppv.
I'm not buying that BS and will be streaming it or I'll just watch a replay for free at some point.
If Canelo was a real man and stopped creating excuses about not fighting GGG I would buy it, but this 155 nonsense made me lose all respect I had for Canelo.

[Lancenix]

The best way boxing fans can respond to Canelo's ducking of GGG is to not buy the canelo-khan ppv.
I'm not buying that BS and will be streaming it or I'll just watch a replay for free at some point.
If Canelo was a real man and stopped creating excuses about not fighting GGG I would buy it, but this 155 nonsense made me lose all respect I had for Canelo.

Good call. Stick it right in DLH's face.