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According to Russian boxing sites the fight will happen at Megasport Arena, in Moscow. It's 14,000 arena - ~1,000,000 $ gate, if it's full.

As I understood, the fights scheduled for Moscow evening - USA East Coast early morning. So, no big money from US TV... Russian TV will pay no more than 1M$ (same as for Klitchko-Povetkin).

All the expected incomes will not cover even half of the 7,500,000 $ bid, and the undercards are also cost money!!!

moscow has the most billioneres in the world i believe...the millions for the fight are pennys to them. look what kind of lifestyle abramovitch or other russian oligarch have with 150 million yachts, they laugh at 7 million for a boxing fight

This is an investment in a HW champion to pay off later. They are gonna lose money on this fight. They know that and they do not care. But it Potvetkin gets the WBC belt they will then turn to Fury and make another one in Russia for the linear crown and that would be a blockbuster. They aren't stupid they have it all planned out.

Lancenix wrote:This is an investment in a HW champion to pay off later. They are gonna lose money on this fight. They know that and they do not care. But it Potvetkin gets the WBC belt they will then turn to Fury and make another one in Russia for the linear crown and that would be a blockbuster. They aren't stupid they have it all planned out.

I know the Russians are counting on that "investment" but unfortunately the only math happening that night will be Povetkin counting the ring lights from flat on his back. It's a beautiful plan but destined to fail.

SFW wrote:

Lancenix wrote:This is an investment in a HW champion to pay off later. They are gonna lose money on this fight. They know that and they do not care. But it Potvetkin gets the WBC belt they will then turn to Fury and make another one in Russia for the linear crown and that would be a blockbuster. They aren't stupid they have it all planned out.

I know the Russians are counting on that "investment" but unfortunately the only math happening that night will be Povetkin counting the ring lights from flat on his back. It's a beautiful plan but destined to fail.

You mean after he downs a couple of bottles of vodka and passes out after getting rid of Wilder in the first round? I could see that happening. Russians love their vodka that is for sure!!

Well I guess Wilder may not be as thorough as Ronald Reagan was but it should be another victory dance and a nice after dinner drink toasting the valiant 2nd place effort. 2nd is Povetkins usual, familiar spot anyway it'll feel just like home lol.

SFW wrote:Well I guess Wilder may not be as thorough as Ronald Reagan was but it should be another victory dance and a nice after dinner drink toasting the valiant 2nd place effort. 2nd is Povetkins usual, familiar spot anyway it'll feel just like home lol.

Lol, how many 2nd plaxes has Povetkin had since september 2001? And how many of the loses he had in his entire life were actually the refs fould? Saying Wilder deserves the third place at max makes more sense.

Lancenix wrote:This is an investment in a HW champion to pay off later. They are gonna lose money on this fight. They know that and they do not care. But it Potvetkin gets the WBC belt they will then turn to Fury and make another one in Russia for the linear crown and that would be a blockbuster. They aren't stupid they have it all planned out.

Lots of IFs

Povetkin already had a shot on Linear, 3 years ago, when he was 33, not 36 (or 38, till linear champ will agree(and why should he) to come to Moscow). Kremlin (via Rosneft) put 13M $ on this disgrace, and Povetkin was dominated and humiliated by 38yo over his peak Champion.

And now they are loosing money on another possible disgrace in order to get some small chance to loose more money on bigger disgrace in a future???
Awesome plan

At this point, the largest earner is Wilder's team. 4M without any commercial risk, to fight some overrated aging bum...
Doping frame is a risk, of course, in Russia. But I don't believe Ryabinski will burn all his relations with WBC and other ABC's for one of his bums

asdfjkl wrote:

SFW wrote:Well I guess Wilder may not be as thorough as Ronald Reagan was but it should be another victory dance and a nice after dinner drink toasting the valiant 2nd place effort. 2nd is Povetkins usual, familiar spot anyway it'll feel just like home lol.

Lol, how many 2nd plaxes has Povetkin had since september 2001? And how many of the loses he had in his entire life were actually the refs fould? Saying Wilder deserves the third place at max makes more sense.

Povetkin had 3 fights where his contenders weren't over 40yo and really came to win - Huck, Chagayev and Klitchko.

Huck was robbed while Povetkin spent half of a fight with his nose under Huck's armpits and pants. He hardly found his corner on last rounds.

Chagayev is a same brawler as Povetkin...could go to any side...

Klitchko - was dominated and humiliated. Once again nose under armpits and in pants. 4 counts, 7 falls.

I don't say Wilder have any world beaters on his belt, but he's, at least, entertaining

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

SFW wrote:Well I guess Wilder may not be as thorough as Ronald Reagan was but it should be another victory dance and a nice after dinner drink toasting the valiant 2nd place effort. 2nd is Povetkins usual, familiar spot anyway it'll feel just like home lol.

Lol, how many 2nd plaxes has Povetkin had since september 2001? And how many of the loses he had in his entire life were actually the refs fould? Saying Wilder deserves the third place at max makes more sense.

Povetkin had 3 fights where his contenders weren't over 40yo and really came to win - Huck, Chagayev and Klitchko.

Huck was robbed while Povetkin spent half of a fight with his nose under Huck's armpits and pants. He hardly found his corner on last rounds.

Chagayev is a same brawler as Povetkin...could go to any side...

Klitchko - was dominated and humiliated. Once again nose under armpits and in pants. 4 counts, 7 falls.

I don't say Wilder have any world beaters on his belt, but he's, at least, entertaining

I haven't watched his Chagaev fight, but I got the feeling you haven't watched his Huck fight, Povetkin simply deserved to win against Huck, simply because Huck pretty much hasn't hit him at all during the entire fight. Povetkin is the only person I've ever seen winning a boxing match despite hitting the wall and that for 5! rounds, even Klitschko lost because he hitted the wall in his early carreer with 1,5 round left.

For Wilder, I suggest Wilder to spar Tyrone Spong, Tyrone Spong is pretty much the same size, same reach, similar power.
Sadly most of the top heavyweights haven't heard of Tyrone Spong yet and he will win his next match by murder, but I'm convinced he will reach the top soon.

...I'm sure it's pretty easy to take apart the career of ANY veteran who's certainly had his ups and downs...what's more important though is that he hasn't been a bottom-feeder something I can't say of Wilder...

Povetkin will fall, and if have your camera ready, he will look just like all those "bottom feeders", on his back drooling & twitchin..

It's what Maverick and Goose would call Foreign Relations.

SFW wrote:Povetkin will fall, and if have your camera ready, he will look just like all those "bottom feeders", on his back drooling & twitchin..

..if Wilder prevails, he'll get a lot more respect worldwide IMO..until then he'll have to live with the reputation of one of the most protected HW boxers...

greg wrote:

SFW wrote:Povetkin will fall, and if have your camera ready, he will look just like all those "bottom feeders", on his back drooling & twitchin..

..if Wilder prevails, he'll get a lot more respect worldwide IMO..until then he'll have to live with the reputation of one of the most protected HW boxers...

I'd be suprised if Wilder didn't prevail, but I'm sure a long ugly word like reputation doesn't cross his mind or have the slightest bearing on what will happen.

SFW wrote:

greg wrote:

SFW wrote:Povetkin will fall, and if have your camera ready, he will look just like all those "bottom feeders", on his back drooling & twitchin..

..if Wilder prevails, he'll get a lot more respect worldwide IMO..until then he'll have to live with the reputation of one of the most protected HW boxers...

I'd be suprised if Wilder didn't prevail, but I'm sure a long ugly word like reputation doesn't cross his mind or have the slightest bearing on what will happen.

ok Nostradamus, we'll wait and see