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boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 05:05
by los2
..............http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/prem ... OqPVBBB.97......................................................................
Dr Mark Bonar has made the claims

A DOCTOR last night claimed he prescribed banned performance-enhancing drugs to 150 sports stars – including several English Premier League footballers.

Dr Mark Bonar alleges his “clients” include an England cricketer, British Tour de France cyclists, a British boxing champion, tennis players and martial arts competitors as well as footballers.

He says he has treated more than 150 sportsmen from the UK and abroad with banned substances such as erythropoietin, steroids and human growth hormones.

He alleges improvements in performances were “phenomenal”.

Bonar’s claims were published in the Sunday Times and may cast a further shadow on the sporting world ahead of the Rio Olympics in August.

Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/prem ... jEsHeml.99

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 05:11
by SNG
To be fair, the Times were at pains to point out they have no other evidence than this doctors words. They didn't show the video of him saying these things but did show him selling drugs to the Times' athlete.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:06
by Starboxer
This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:24
by freddydoesdallas
Starboxer wrote:This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:25
by Tuan_Jim
I saw this too. No real surprise. A lot of fighters in combat sports, particularly in the larger divisions, have ceased to resemble humans in the last 20 years or so. A fighter can get KOd three times and then magically conjure up powers to dominate a division for years. Weird.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:32
by Starboxer
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Starboxer wrote:This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
He is giving mma fighters and boxers steroid's

Someone could get killed because of this so called doctor

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:34
by Emmseegee
Id lock him up, the fact that he mentions the improvement in their performance was phenomenal shows that he knew who they were or what their career path was. Basically he has treated them as human guinea pigs and put their livliehood at risk.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 06:40
by Starboxer
Emmseegee wrote:Id lock him up, the fact that he mentions the improvement in their performance was phenomenal shows that he knew who they were or what their career path was. Basically he has treated them as human guinea pigs and put their livliehood at risk.
I am amazed that he can get away with it , unbelievable

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 08:01
by mullenman
Most people that will be listed are mainly based around london areas

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 08:13
by palooka
mullenman wrote:Most people that will be listed are mainly based around london areas
:OhYes: that narrows it down.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 09:43
by Supremo
Who was named? I see that Arsenal, Leicster and Spurs have denied any wrong doing but I cant find the names of alleged users online.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 11:12
by asdfjkl
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Starboxer wrote:This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
Because of the Hippocratic Oath.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:58
by MarkMcBurney
This is shocking news. All boxers I can think of are so humble...fcuking newspaper bull I suspect...

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 16:06
by Sklar
MarkMcBurney wrote:This is shocking news. All boxers I can think of are so humble...fcuking newspaper bull I suspect...
:lol:

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 19:09
by SNG
Very shadey the way he said if they're symptomatic he'll treat them and it's up to them to comply with whatever laws are involved with their sports, I suppose he's right in a way but he's not stupid either as he openly discussed the cycle for the drugs to be out of the system of the Times' athlete.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 19:54
by Starboxer
British boxing champ ?

I wonder who that is

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 00:12
by tigermoth87
If I was a better man I'd put my money on Joshua.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 04:17
by Stevieb8006
tigermoth87 wrote:If I was a better man I'd put my money on Joshua.
What in the world could make you think Joshua is juiced up? :lol:

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 06:19
by freddydoesdallas
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Starboxer wrote:This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
That's not a legal oath.

Whether or not you agree with what he has done, he hasn't done anything illegal.

The athletes and clubs involved are the ones that should do be under scrutiny. They know what they are allowed to do within the rules of sport and they knowingly broke them

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 14:10
by bripez
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Starboxer wrote:This doctor should be sent to prison he is a criminal
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
Which bit of the Hippocratic oath are you thinking of ?

This is not new - have you seen the statues of the Greek gods? Have you seen their physiques?

I have read that these fellas lived on diets with a lot of sheeps testicles in order to increase their own testosterone levels -the equivalent of going for a pint with Kid Gallahads brother.

They were also possibly advised by the doctors of the day.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:06
by asdfjkl
freddydoesdallas wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
That's not a legal oath.

Whether or not you agree with what he has done, he hasn't done anything illegal.

The athletes and clubs involved are the ones that should do be under scrutiny. They know what they are allowed to do within the rules of sport and they knowingly broke them
Then you probably don't know what the Hippocratic Oath stands for.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:16
by asdfjkl
bripez wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Why? He's prescribed a treatment plan to an athlete. The drugs in question are not illegal, they are seen as performance enhancing so banned by wada.

I'm sure we've all taken things with banned substances in. Cough and cold medicines have them in, just ask Alan baxter
Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
Which bit of the Hippocratic oath are you thinking of ?

This is not new - have you seen the statues of the Greek gods? Have you seen their physiques?

I have read that these fellas lived on diets with a lot of sheeps testicles in order to increase their own testosterone levels -the equivalent of going for a pint with Kid Gallahads brother.

They were also possibly advised by the doctors of the day.
Do not harm

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:17
by bripez
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
That's not a legal oath.

Whether or not you agree with what he has done, he hasn't done anything illegal.

The athletes and clubs involved are the ones that should do be under scrutiny. They know what they are allowed to do within the rules of sport and they knowingly broke them
Then you probably don't know what the Hippocratic Oath stands for.
Then why not enlighten us ?

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:19
by states
Bear in mind that many drugs that are used to enhance Athletic performance are all perfectly legal treatments for Medical conditions. Much of them basically just stop the ageing process, interesting article here:

http://www.outsideonline.com/1924306/drug-test

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:23
by asdfjkl
bripez wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote: That's not a legal oath.

Whether or not you agree with what he has done, he hasn't done anything illegal.

The athletes and clubs involved are the ones that should do be under scrutiny. They know what they are allowed to do within the rules of sport and they knowingly broke them
Then you probably don't know what the Hippocratic Oath stands for.
Then why not enlighten us ?
If you create a killermachine, knowing beforehand he will, or will try to knock somebody out of this world, it's clearly not healthy. Many steroids are bad for your body no matter what way you look at it.