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If you could see one fight?

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 16:45
by davie
And one fight only, what would it be?

Reading about Maxie Rosenbloom and Harry Greb, both men have 298 fights exactly on record and not one with footage, got me thinking,
If you could see only one fight which is currently unavailable, which one would you choose?
Of course the full show would be viewed in full HD with Jim Lampley and Harold Lederman doing their thing. :yay:

Obviously there will be a few candidates on the respective careers of the above 2 men but there will be countless other top fighters with little to no footage or even, otherwise well covered fighters, who have one big fight that is lost to the archives.

I'll go for 1947-05-05 - Archie Moore vs Ezzard Charles 2. The only one of their 3 bouts that was considered close.
Then I can come on here and tell you all it was a fix and Archie was the better man :lol:

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
Robinson/Gavilan

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:11
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Robinson/Gavilan
That'd probably be mine as well.

I'd also like to see some of Greb's biggest fights.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 04 Apr 2016, 17:19
by yancey
Jake Kilrain vs John L. Sullivan, without a doubt.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 00:31
by Tomasino
davie wrote:And one fight only, what would it be?

Reading about Maxie Rosenbloom and Harry Greb, both men have 298 fights exactly on record and not one with footage, got me thinking,
If you could see only one fight which is currently unavailable, which one would you choose?
Of course the full show would be viewed in full HD with Jim Lampley and Harold Lederman doing their thing. :yay:

Obviously there will be a few candidates on the respective careers of the above 2 men but there will be countless other top fighters with little to no footage or even, otherwise well covered fighters, who have one big fight that is lost to the archives.

I'll go for 1947-05-05 - Archie Moore vs Ezzard Charles 2. The only one of their 3 bouts that was considered close.
Then I can come on here and tell you all it was a fix and Archie was the better man :lol:
Why ruin it with the HBOzos? Lamps is a joke and Ledermans routine was old 15 years ago.

I will take Sam Langford vs Joe Walcott with an honorable mention to Joe Gans v Battling Nelson

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 00:40
by davie
Tomasino wrote:
davie wrote:And one fight only, what would it be?

Reading about Maxie Rosenbloom and Harry Greb, both men have 298 fights exactly on record and not one with footage, got me thinking,
If you could see only one fight which is currently unavailable, which one would you choose?
Of course the full show would be viewed in full HD with Jim Lampley and Harold Lederman doing their thing. :yay:

Obviously there will be a few candidates on the respective careers of the above 2 men but there will be countless other top fighters with little to no footage or even, otherwise well covered fighters, who have one big fight that is lost to the archives.

I'll go for 1947-05-05 - Archie Moore vs Ezzard Charles 2. The only one of their 3 bouts that was considered close.
Then I can come on here and tell you all it was a fix and Archie was the better man :lol:
Why ruin it with the HBOzos? Lamps is a joke and Ledermans routine was old 15 years ago.

I will take Sam Langford vs Joe Walcott
I was kidding about the Lederman and Lampley bit, knew it would wind someone up :OhYes:

No, if you could see any fight, it would be in (decent quality) old b&w footage.

I have to say good choice. I hadn't actually realised Sam had fought for a genuine world title.
With all I've read about Sam being ducked and fighting for "coloured" world titles, particularly in his heavyweight days, I'd obviously skipped over this fight, despite having looked over his record many times and seeing the Walcott fight on there

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 15:47
by cfang
Tunny Greb 1 would be my choice

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 15:48
by cfang
cfang wrote:Tunny Greb 1 would be my choice
Or actually id like to see jeffries sharkey too - seen some stills from the old film and it was incredible. Shame the best quality film of that era isnt around :(

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 15:51
by davie
cfang wrote:
cfang wrote:Tunny Greb 1 would be my choice
Or actually id like to see jeffries sharkey too - seen some stills from the old film and it was incredible. Shame the best quality film of that era isnt around :(

Not grasping this one fight only bit are you? :lol:

Had to get greedy!

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 15:51
by davie
cfang wrote:Tunny Greb 1 would be my choice
Tunney vs Greb was one I'd considered

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 21:38
by Scypion
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Robinson/Gavilan


That would be my choice too.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:42
by cfang
:lol:
davie wrote:
cfang wrote:
cfang wrote:Tunny Greb 1 would be my choice
Or actually id like to see jeffries sharkey too - seen some stills from the old film and it was incredible. Shame the best quality film of that era isnt around :(

Not grasping this one fight only bit are you? :lol:

Had to get greedy!

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:57
by keithmoonhangover
Ketchel vs Papke III for me.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 07:21
by magwitch
Two Toms. Cribb vs. Molyneaux I, for me. The American had won the fight as England’s master boxer Cribb didn’t manage to make scratch but somehow he was excused and allowed more time (crowd disturbance or something) and not long after Molyneaux fell to exhaustion, I believe.
It was in a field in England....Copthorne Gap or something....and whilst completely illegal, it was attended by 20,000, some say twice as many, most of whom were on the road from before the break of day just to get there.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 07:48
by elmersalsa
Harry Greb vs Mickey Walker. I read that it was a great fight between two tough and rough boxers. Then, they fought again later that night in a nightclub.

Charley Burley vs Archie Moore
Ike Williams vs Kid Gavilan I, II and III....Are these fights available on film? I think not.

And of course, the great Roberto Duran's early bouts before 1970 :D :OhYes:

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 14:35
by Rexob
Tyson Vs Douglas,
Rumble in the Jungle,
Benn vs McChellan

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 15:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
Rexob wrote:Tyson Vs Douglas,
Rumble in the Jungle,
Benn vs McChellan
You haven't seen those? Easily accessible.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 15:48
by Rexob
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Rexob wrote:Tyson Vs Douglas,
Rumble in the Jungle,
Benn vs McChellan
You haven't seen those? Easily accessible.

Oh, I thought he meant live?

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 15:50
by SaadOffTheDeck
Rexob wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Rexob wrote:Tyson Vs Douglas,
Rumble in the Jungle,
Benn vs McChellan
You haven't seen those? Easily accessible.

Oh, I thought he meant live?
I could see the confusion, not really specified past his examples.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 18:17
by davie
I could have stated the question better
but I'd think the message in the OP would give away, that I was talking about fights with no footage.

Re: If you could see one fight?

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 20:33
by Syntax Error
Stanley Ketchel v Sam Langford.