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Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:15
by johnswan1
He's definitely coming back... Be good if he went after Briggs.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/exclusi ... aks-331956

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:33
by Stuarty
Was there not talk of him fighting Andy Ruiz this year?

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:40
by jamesmcdonnell
I bet he'll wind up back in Jail soon enough, he's batshit crazy.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:42
by Terry Dooley
For too many men, coming out of the closet leads to abuse and disapproval. For his victim it was an opportunity to get away from the crazy bastard and call the police. Agree with James, he’ll end up back inside.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:51
by johnswan1
Any ideas on what this bit means?

Ibeabuchi said he understood that there could be potential opposition in his effort to fight again however he refused to get into specifics about his past. “I don’t want to discuss that rape charge if you don’t recognize the meaning to the accusation,” he said. “Anyone who intends to bring up a conviction, a charge against me, without the notion of that ruling of the Supreme Court is at misconduct already, where they’re insulting my intelligence. I don’t want to answer anything about that.”

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 10:04
by jamesmcdonnell
Metal Fingers wrote:For too many men, coming out of the closet leads to abuse and disapproval. For his victim it was an opportunity to get away from the crazy bastard and call the police. Agree with James, he’ll end up back inside.
Coming out of the closet? Eh, have I missed something? Did he rape a man?

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 10:46
by Tuan_Jim
Utterly compelling figure. It will be amazing to see him back in the ring after all this time. I hope they keep him active and build him back up sensibly.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 10:56
by Stuarty
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Metal Fingers wrote:For too many men, coming out of the closet leads to abuse and disapproval. For his victim it was an opportunity to get away from the crazy bastard and call the police. Agree with James, he’ll end up back inside.
Coming out of the closet? Eh, have I missed something? Did he rape a man?
Did his victim not hide in the closet or something? You're right he is batshit crazy! I remember reading that before his incarceration he was already showing signs of going round the bend. Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest :brick:

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:21
by jamesmcdonnell
Stuarty30 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Metal Fingers wrote:For too many men, coming out of the closet leads to abuse and disapproval. For his victim it was an opportunity to get away from the crazy bastard and call the police. Agree with James, he’ll end up back inside.
Coming out of the closet? Eh, have I missed something? Did he rape a man?
Did his victim not hide in the closet or something? You're right he is batshit crazy! I remember reading that before his incarceration he was already showing signs of going round the bend. Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest :brick:
Apparently he started hearing voices after the Tua fight, I wouldn't be surprised if he sustained some sort of brain damage during that fight. He did seem to go absolutely doolally.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:34
by Tuan_Jim
Isn't this 'hearing voices after the Tua fight' mere Wikipedia apocrypha? I read many profiles of the President when he was free and at large and I didn't need to delve between the lines to see that perfect derangement had been a lifelong condition.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:49
by jamesmcdonnell
Tuan_Jim wrote:Isn't this 'hearing voices after the Tua fight' mere Wikipedia apocrypha? I read many profiles of the President when he was free and at large and I didn't need to delve between the lines to see that perfect derangement had been a lifelong condition.
I did say 'apparently' It was from an interview I read with someone involved in his management team.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:58
by Tuan_Jim
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:Isn't this 'hearing voices after the Tua fight' mere Wikipedia apocrypha? I read many profiles of the President when he was free and at large and I didn't need to delve between the lines to see that perfect derangement had been a lifelong condition.
I did say 'apparently' It was from an interview I read with someone involved in his management team.
I've read bits and pieces during Ibeabuchi's imprisonment from his old manager (Munisteri?) and he seemed keen to tarnish his old fighter's reputation. Talk of him being 'dominated' in sparring by Kirk Johnson, as if that meant anything even assuming it were true. I doubt the fragile Johnson would have coped with a full contact 12 round fight with Ibeabuchi, sans headguard. Who knows with Ike. But to start hearing voices after a fight would be a first, even for boxing. From what I could see he was born mad, his mother was mad, he was sent off to the states to stop him doing mad things etc etc.

Let the new madness begin!

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 12:51
by lefty
Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:04
by Stuarty
lefty wrote:Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:16
by Tuan_Jim
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.
Sounds like lefty needs a time out. Can someone hold his hand and lead him to his safe space?

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:54
by lefty
Tuan_Jim wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.
Sounds like lefty needs a time out. Can someone hold his hand and lead him to his safe space?
Hilarious. Give me a second to compose myself from my ribs hurting due to your amazing humour. It could be awhile ...

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 13:59
by keithmoonhangover
The scumbag is still refusing to man up and apologize for his crimes. I hope he takes a beating, like he would have if he'd fought Lennox back in the day.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 14:52
by Bodyshot3
I am franky amazed the US have not deported him and can only suppose that IB's lawyers have somehow been able to make some sort of case that a return to Nigeria would have a negative impact on his overall welfare/stability.

I don't want to see him fight again but strongly suspect that is exactly what will happen. He'll turn-up somewhere knocking over tomato cans for rent/grocery money or will simply grab the first big fight he can take. Either way, it won't be very edifying and is unlikely to end well.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 14:57
by Tuan_Jim
keithmoonhangover wrote:The scumbag is still refusing to man up and apologize for his crimes. I hope he takes a beating, like he would have if he'd fought Lennox back in the day.
I'm sure losing 15 years of your life in prison is worse than getting beaten up in a boxing ring one time for money.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:20
by lefty
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.
Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest

I imagine there is a correlation between believing you're a president and something called psychosis and quite possibly schizophrenia which is a definite mental illness last time I looked.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:26
by Stuarty
lefty wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:Nice comments on mental illness being displayed in this thread.
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.
Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest

I imagine there is a correlation between believing you're a president and something called psychosis and quite possibly schizophrenia which is a definite mental illness last time I looked.
Is it your period or something? I said 'apparently' and the comment was in reference to something I read. I'm sure the thing I read was just an old manager or promoters opinion so it wasn't a diagnosis or anything like that. If the man is suffering a mental illness then hopefully it is identified and he's treated. He shouldn't be near a professional boxing ring if that is the case.

In the meantime try and not menstruate all over your mums spare room :roll:

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:39
by lefty
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Is he mentally ill or just mad? There is a difference.
Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest

I imagine there is a correlation between believing you're a president and something called psychosis and quite possibly schizophrenia which is a definite mental illness last time I looked.
Is it your period or something? I said 'apparently' and the comment was in reference to something I read. I'm sure the thing I read was just an old manager or promoters opinion so it wasn't a diagnosis or anything like that. If the man is suffering a mental illness then hopefully it is identified and he's treated. He shouldn't be near a professional boxing ring if that is the case.

In the meantime try and not menstruate all over your mums spare room :roll:
Ad hominem attacks don't make your position look any better buddy :TU:

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:42
by Tuan_Jim
'I'll be entertained by a man being knocked unconscious by another man in a boxing ring - but I WILL NOT STAND ANYONE making a glib remark about mental health!'

Lefty, 2016.

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:46
by lefty
Tuan_Jim wrote:'I'll be entertained by a man being knocked unconscious by another man in a boxing ring - but I WILL NOT STAND ANYONE making a glib remark about mental health!'

Lefty, 2016.
Again, your wit is amazing. Have you considered a career in stand-up?

Re: Ike Ibeabuchi speaks

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 15:48
by Stuarty
lefty wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote: Apparently he insisted on being called 'the president' and in his own mind he actually thought he WAS 'the president' :o One flew over the cuckoos nest

I imagine there is a correlation between believing you're a president and something called psychosis and quite possibly schizophrenia which is a definite mental illness last time I looked.
Is it your period or something? I said 'apparently' and the comment was in reference to something I read. I'm sure the thing I read was just an old manager or promoters opinion so it wasn't a diagnosis or anything like that. If the man is suffering a mental illness then hopefully it is identified and he's treated. He shouldn't be near a professional boxing ring if that is the case.

In the meantime try and not menstruate all over your mums spare room :roll:
Ad hominem attacks don't make your position look any better buddy :TU:
My position being? You're the one pissing your frillys over a couple of posts. Making a problem where there isn't one. Must be an attention thing. Were you refused a tit as an infant?