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Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

yeah i'd travel with all my water and food aswell i'd take no chances of any capers like that

Why did Wilder's team ask for this?

Potentially a very big mistake.

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

Taking for granted that he isn't actually using...which is a big leap with any athlete these days.

But I do agree, IF Wilder is drug free then he should take extra precaution.

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

No reason to be paranoid. Povetkin's promoter Andrei Ryabinsky is an honorable man.

No doubt, if Wilder loses or tests positive, he and his fans will make excuses.

I just hope Wilder's people don't hire a shady referee like Klitschko had when he fought Povetkin.

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

or many other. look they gonne get wilder if wilder wins.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

or many other. look they gonne get wilder if wilder wins.

Which "many other" are you referring to?

...glad they chose VADA testing and I don't want ANY bs excuses afterwards...

VADA testing or not, all these guys can still take steroids and pass the tests if they choose to. Look at the permissible ratios and do some research on the subject. You've essentially got a green light to cheat providing you keep track of your dosages and levels.

punchoutsb wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

or many other. look they gonne get wilder if wilder wins.

Which "many other" are you referring to?

thenigerian guy who beat kudryashov duradula

than guillermo jones

Chepppaaa wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:
or many other. look they gonne get wilder if wilder wins.

Which "many other" are you referring to?

thenigerian guy who beat kudryashov duradula

than guillermo jones

So you have a list of three guys who failed drug tests and somehow that implies massive corruption? Browne's was sketchy because of the drug involved. Guys get popped for drugs all the time. The point of the sport is to be the best and/or make as much money as possible.

Chepppaaa wrote:thenigerian guy who beat kudryashov duradula

than guillermo jones

Duradola tested positive, but the WBC and corrupt anti-Russian politics let him off the hook. Russians have always been cheated by western countries in sports.

This reminds me of the 1972 hockey series where Bobby Clarke disgraced Canada by deliberating breaking Kharlamov's leg.

What happened was that Clarke chased down Valeri Kharlamov and struck him with a two-hander that left the Soviets’ best player with a broken ankle.

Years later, assistant coach John Ferguson admitted: “I called Clarke over to the bench, looked over at Kharlamov and said: ‘I think he needs a tap on the ankle.’ I didn’t think twice about it. It was Us vs. Them. And Kharlamov was killing us. I mean, somebody had to do it.”

Maybe they should just forget the whole thing and stop the drug testing because it has been so politicized and so many of the big names, and not so big names, and even child athletes, do use any performance enhancement angles that they can find, and the line between what's legal and what isn't is often very obscure, and then it comes down to who has the better trainers and medical advisers instructing then how to trick the tests.

x2x wrote:Maybe they should just forget the whole thing and stop the drug testing because it has been so politicized and so many of the big names, and not so big names, and even child athletes, do use any performance enhancement angles that they can find, and the line between what's legal and what isn't is often very obscure, and then it comes down to who has the better trainers and medical advisers instructing then how to trick the tests.

That's what I would like to see happen in the pro ranks.

If you pop dirty as an amateur you are banned from ever receiving a pro license.

This stops the kids from doing it, and let's grown adults make their own decisions in the training room rather than a back alley.

punchoutsb wrote:

x2x wrote:Maybe they should just forget the whole thing and stop the drug testing because it has been so politicized and so many of the big names, and not so big names, and even child athletes, do use any performance enhancement angles that they can find, and the line between what's legal and what isn't is often very obscure, and then it comes down to who has the better trainers and medical advisers instructing then how to trick the tests.

That's what I would like to see happen in the pro ranks.

If you pop dirty as an amateur you are banned from ever receiving a pro license.

This stops the kids from doing it, and let's grown adults make their own decisions in the training room rather than a back alley.

Exactly.

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

So you're already planning to blame Povetkin if Wilder tests positive? Maybe Wilder shouldn't use any steroids, and then he won't have anything to worry about.

Funny to see the Wilder fans their reaction. I'm not surprised Povetkin is still granding Wilder a lot of his wishes, just to prevent Wilder to think out new excuses. I really can't think out any excuses any more from Wilder's side, I wonder if he can.

I already said beforehand they can let themself being tested by 3 or 4 different organisations, especially since there is an American heavyweight involved in this fight, then it's better safe then sorry.

Lackeos wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

So you're already planning to blame Povetkin if Wilder tests positive? Maybe Wilder shouldn't use any steroids, and then he won't have anything to worry about.

People seem to test positive in Eastern Europe that don't test positive anywhere else. If I was a betting man, I'd bet Lucas Browne's positive was rigged.

Tony1244 wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Wilder better bring ALL of his liquids and solids to Russia with him. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake Lucas Browne did.

So you're already planning to blame Povetkin if Wilder tests positive? Maybe Wilder shouldn't use any steroids, and then he won't have anything to worry about.

People seem to test positive in Eastern Europe that don't test positive anywhere else. If I was a betting man, I'd bet Lucas Browne's positive was rigged.

People who use PED's also seem to be testing positive a lot lately, so maybe Lucas Browne is one of those people.

Horse wrote:Why did Wilder's team ask for this?

Potentially a very big mistake.

The alternative may well have been testing by a less credible organisation and therefore the more likely possibility of being screwed by shonksters.

Look at what happened to Oquendo when he fought Chagaev. Yes Browne finds himself in a similar plight. But I think Browne may have been tricked into consuming something contaminated. Whereas Oquendo may well have been screwed by the testing organisation themselves.

Wilder has undergone VADA testing before, this should be a none issue as WBC has this testing in place now for championship level fights.

marvelous marv wrote:Wilder has undergone VADA testing before, this should be a none issue as WBC has this testing in place now for championship level fights.

It's not too hard to pass a test without being clean. When athletes get caught it's often because of prep and planning mistakes.

Noslackgiven wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

marvelous marv wrote:Wilder has undergone VADA testing before, this should be a none issue as WBC has this testing in place now for championship level fights.

It's not too hard to pass a test without being clean. When athletes get caught it's often because of prep and planning mistakes.

Povetkin is more likely to be cheating than Wilder.

Meldonium got Russians banned across several sports...Sharapova being the most high profile.

So Povetkin is more likely cheating because Sharpova took a banned substance?

How do you think Lance Armstrongs positive test will effect Wilder?

Noslackgiven wrote: A rash of Russians have been banned across several sports...that's why I say Povetkin is more likely to be cheating than Wilder...plus he is scared and has been stalling for a while now.

Logic...not even once.