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Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 22:24
by diddy
Someone talk me out of loading up on Gilby. Outside of Germany how does AA throw enough punches to actually win this fight?

Thoughts?

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 22:34
by crusader
It's tough for me to see past Ramirez here. He's nothing special, but he puts his punches together well, stays busy, and has a strong body attack, and I think that's the type of thing that will cause AA nightmares as the away fighter.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 22:37
by gilgamesh
I like Ramirez via UD myself. Like you Diddy I just don't think AA is busy enough and I don't think he knocks out Ramirez. He's gonna have to get the stoppage to win I think.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 23:35
by ikorolev
Ramirez's chin hasn't really been tested, so I give Abraham at least 30% puncher's chance.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 00:17
by Mexi-Box
ikorolev wrote:Ramirez's chin hasn't really been tested, so I give Abraham at least 30% puncher's chance.
Derek Edwards and Maxim Vlasov are not light hitters. Watch Chilemba's, who looks to have a very solid chin, fight against him. Chilemba was almost put out. Ramirez went toe-to-toe with Vlasov. Ramirez's chin is fine. He'll walk right through Abraham.

I see no way Abraham wins. Ramirez is bigger, younger, stronger, and he loves to fight in wars. Abraham is too small, and his high-guard come forward style won't work on Ramirez.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 01:47
by ikorolev
Mexi-Box wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Ramirez's chin hasn't really been tested, so I give Abraham at least 30% puncher's chance.
Derek Edwards and Maxim Vlasov are not light hitters. Watch Chilemba's, who looks to have a very solid chin, fight against him. Chilemba was almost put out. Ramirez went toe-to-toe with Vlasov. Ramirez's chin is fine. He'll walk right through Abraham.

I see no way Abraham wins. Ramirez is bigger, younger, stronger, and he loves to fight in wars. Abraham is too small, and his high-guard come forward style won't work on Ramirez.
Vlasov had to come down 5 pounds when fighting Ramirez, and he was complaining about that. He is a cruiserweight now.

I wouldn't put money on Abraham, but once again, I don't believe that Zurdo's chin has been tested well.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 02:29
by Mexi-Box
ikorolev wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Ramirez's chin hasn't really been tested, so I give Abraham at least 30% puncher's chance.
Derek Edwards and Maxim Vlasov are not light hitters. Watch Chilemba's, who looks to have a very solid chin, fight against him. Chilemba was almost put out. Ramirez went toe-to-toe with Vlasov. Ramirez's chin is fine. He'll walk right through Abraham.

I see no way Abraham wins. Ramirez is bigger, younger, stronger, and he loves to fight in wars. Abraham is too small, and his high-guard come forward style won't work on Ramirez.
Vlasov had to come down 5 pounds when fighting Ramirez, and he was complaining about that. He is a cruiserweight now.

I wouldn't put money on Abraham, but once again, I don't believe that Zurdo's chin has been tested well.
Zurdo doesn't have a defense first style, though. Someone with Zurdo's style and a bad chin can be spotted very easily. This, especially, considering the guys he fought like Vlasov and Edwards.

Edwards would've had Ramirez face-down like he did Jack if he had a bad chin.

Re: Ramirez vs Abraham

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 07:47
by PredatorHayds
I see Abraham getting outworked and losing a close decision.
Must of took big money to get him out of Germany.