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Set for July 9th in Manchester. Will the outcome be any different this time?

I hope Wladimir fights this time. I'll be rooting for him. If he just comes in and stands around again I'll be disgusted.

Why would anyone want to see this garbage fight again, two boring and non-skilled HWs hurling blows with no intent to really win or hurt the other then only to come together in a slow dance waltz that puts everyone to sleep.

Klitschko is the modern day John HuggaBoxer Ruiz.

Glad to see it's been finalized!

2016 is starting off really nicely at HW.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Why would anyone want to see this garbage fight again, two boring and non-skilled HWs hurling blows with no intent to really win or hurt the other then only to come together in a slow dance waltz that puts everyone to sleep.

Klitschko is the modern day John HuggaBoxer Ruiz.

Wladimir is WAY better than Ruiz. He actually has talent. He holds a lot yes, but the similarities end there.

gilgamesh wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Why would anyone want to see this garbage fight again, two boring and non-skilled HWs hurling blows with no intent to really win or hurt the other then only to come together in a slow dance waltz that puts everyone to sleep.

Klitschko is the modern day John HuggaBoxer Ruiz.

Wladimir is WAY better than Ruiz. He actually has talent. He holds a lot yes, but the similarities end there.

Really, could've fooled me in that fight with Fury.

gilgamesh wrote:I hope Wladimir fights this time. I'll be rooting for him. If he just comes in and stands around again I'll be disgusted.

With his legacy on the line he should do.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Why would anyone want to see this garbage fight again, two boring and non-skilled HWs hurling blows with no intent to really win or hurt the other then only to come together in a slow dance waltz that puts everyone to sleep.

Klitschko is the modern day John HuggaBoxer Ruiz.

Wladimir is WAY better than Ruiz. He actually has talent. He holds a lot yes, but the similarities end there.

Really, could've fooled me in that fight with Fury.

You saw a lot of holding in that fight? I saw a lot of standing around and doing jack sh*t.

Wlad lost to Fury because he didn't fight. He walked in the ring. Stood there staring at him for 12 rounds, and handing him his title. He might as well have just forfeited before the fight even started if he had no intention of trying to win.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Why would anyone want to see this garbage fight again, two boring and non-skilled HWs hurling blows with no intent to really win or hurt the other then only to come together in a slow dance waltz that puts everyone to sleep.

Klitschko is the modern day John HuggaBoxer Ruiz.

Wladimir is WAY better than Ruiz. He actually has talent. He holds a lot yes, but the similarities end there.

Really, could've fooled me in that fight with Fury.

So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Wladimir is WAY better than Ruiz. He actually has talent. He holds a lot yes, but the similarities end there.

Really, could've fooled me in that fight with Fury.

So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

Maybe to you but unlike you, that doesn't bother me. All i know is that Klits was boring as hell and I wouldn't want to see a replay of that snorefest again.

For me Fury will be winning again. If W. Klitschko will try to be more aggressive, he could lose way KO. Just my opinion.

Baby Face Finster wrote:
So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

The thing that pissed me off most with the 2nd Mayweather-Maidana fight is there were a few times Kenny Bayless got in there and split 'em up as if they were in a clinch when all they were was fighting in close. Basically Bayless would separate them anytime Maidana got into punching range, whether they were clinched or not. I always thought Bayless was one of the best referees in the sport, and still do, but his officiating in that fight was pretty fishy.

gilgamesh wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:
So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

The thing that pissed me off most with the 2nd Mayweather-Maidana fight is there were a few times Kenny Bayless got in there and split 'em up as if they were in a clinch when all they were was fighting in close. Basically Bayless would separate them anytime Maidana got into punching range, whether they were clinched or not. I always thought Bayless was one of the best referees in the sport, and still do, but his officiating in that fight was pretty fishy.

Is that Floyd's fault though that Bayless did that? As I recall Bayless has always been quick to break fighters apart when they get close.

geronimo wrote:For me Fury will be winning again. If W. Klitschko will try to be more aggressive, he could lose way KO. Just my opinion.

Wladimir will need to at least be aggressive enough that it looks like he intends to fight if he wants to win. Last time he did absolutely nothing. It was the most pathetic non-effort I've ever seen from a defending Champion, and single handedly dropped him 5 or 6 notches in the All Time Heavyweight standings IMO.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:
So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

The thing that pissed me off most with the 2nd Mayweather-Maidana fight is there were a few times Kenny Bayless got in there and split 'em up as if they were in a clinch when all they were was fighting in close. Basically Bayless would separate them anytime Maidana got into punching range, whether they were clinched or not. I always thought Bayless was one of the best referees in the sport, and still do, but his officiating in that fight was pretty fishy.

Is that Floyd's fault though that Bayless did that? As I recall Bayless has always been quick to break fighters apart when they get close.

I didn't say it was Floyd's fault necessarily, but I never saw Bayless do those kinda favors for anyone else.

gilgamesh wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
The thing that pissed me off most with the 2nd Mayweather-Maidana fight is there were a few times Kenny Bayless got in there and split 'em up as if they were in a clinch when all they were was fighting in close. Basically Bayless would separate them anytime Maidana got into punching range, whether they were clinched or not. I always thought Bayless was one of the best referees in the sport, and still do, but his officiating in that fight was pretty fishy.

Is that Floyd's fault though that Bayless did that? As I recall Bayless has always been quick to break fighters apart when they get close.

I didn't say it was Floyd's fault necessarily, but I never saw Bayless do those kinda favors for anyone else.

Then you weren't paying attention to the other fights he's ref'd.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Really, could've fooled me in that fight with Fury.

So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

Maybe to you but unlike you, that doesn't bother me. All i know is that Klits was boring as hell and I wouldn't want to see a replay of that snorefest again.

And to me Mayweather post the Mosley fight has been boring as hell. Completely risk adverse with no killer instinct when he stunned his opponents. That to me is just as boring as what Wladimir did. No difference whatsoever. They are both boring, Klitscho after the Brewster fight and Floyd after Mosley fight.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Is that Floyd's fault though that Bayless did that? As I recall Bayless has always been quick to break fighters apart when they get close.

I didn't say it was Floyd's fault necessarily, but I never saw Bayless do those kinda favors for anyone else.

Then you weren't paying attention to the other fights he's ref'd.

I always pay attention. Breaking guys up in a clinch quickly is not the same thing as breaking them up when both fighters have both hands free. Bayless never did that in any other fight that I've seen.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:
So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

Maybe to you but unlike you, that doesn't bother me. All i know is that Klits was boring as hell and I wouldn't want to see a replay of that snorefest again.

And to me Mayweather post the Mosley fight has been boring as hell. Completely risk adverse with no killer instinct when he stunned his opponents. That to me is just as boring as what Wladimir did. No difference whatsoever. They are both boring, Klitscho after the Brewster fight and Floyd after Mosley fight.

I agree that Floyd doesn't always go out enough to finish his opponents but that doesn't mean he isn't trying to catch them, Klits just absolutely did nothing but throw one shot, then hug, rinse and repeat.

This fight will not happen on this date! !

If you fed the info into a computer, Fury would win again this time more easily, likely by stoppage- based on Wlad getting older and Fury is on the rise. But fights aren't a computer.

My guesses are Wlad retires on his stool or it's much like the first fight only by a wider Fury margin.

But this isn't like a Mayweather-Pacquiao or Chavez-Haugen match where we all know exactly what will happen.

If Fury shows up in the same shape as last time it will be a repeat win. UD 12..Klitschko already started showing signs slowing down in the Jennings fight..

If Fury pulls a Arreola and shows up out of shape...then who knows...

gilgamesh wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:
So you are basing it on one fight?

Let's see. I recall Floyd holding like an octopus against Castillo anytime he got near him. The same thing seemed to have happened in the Maidana fights. Floyd therefore must have been a smaller John Huggy Bear Ruiz.

The thing that pissed me off most with the 2nd Mayweather-Maidana fight is there were a few times Kenny Bayless got in there and split 'em up as if they were in a clinch when all they were was fighting in close. Basically Bayless would separate them anytime Maidana got into punching range, whether they were clinched or not. I always thought Bayless was one of the best referees in the sport, and still do, but his officiating in that fight was pretty fishy.

Same thing in the Hatton fight where Cortez "i'm firm but i'm fair(especially to Floyd)" kept breaking it up, Hatton does his best work on the inside and even HBO had him ahead after 6 rounds then Cortez just ruined that fight by breaking it up every time Hatton got inside (remember Ricky bending over and showing his arse to them both because he knew he was getting fvcked).

David Haye said today he has heard from someone inside team Klit that the fight hasn't been agreed and the fight wont happen in Manchester Seems like the Fury's are trying to steal the limelight from AJ.

Heard about this at work earlier on today, great news and likely to be a bumper crowd to watch it.
Roll on July.

I'll be there.

Either Father Time has caught up with Klitschko or he was distracted by his Mrs or Ukraine.

We will see. All I know is that Fury is embarrassing...

A side question; have two HW or Super Heavyweight Olympic champions ever fought for a pro world title?