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who will get a longer ban browne or sturm ? *

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 16:57
by dickbelden
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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 19:31
by dberry
Sturm will be getting a minimum of two years, I should imagine, using a form of testosterone.
Browne may be able to defend himself successfully on the premise that he tested negative in a pre-fight test, clenbuteral is not a performance enhancing drug for a twelve round heavyweight fight, in fact, it's performance inhibiting and off the back of the Fres Oquendo debacle it is most likely was set up.

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 22:41
by Lancenix
Sturm. Tyson Fury has come out and said that he thinks Browne was poisoned. Many others have said the same. I wonder if this could be true??

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 22:49
by Ilya Muromets
Lancenix wrote:Sturm. Tyson Fury has come out and said that he thinks Browne was poisoned. Many others have said the same. I wonder if this could be true??

Did Fury say that? I am inclined to believe that Browne is innocent as well.

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 22:51
by hurricanemitch14
I truly believe Browne , sturm not so much.

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Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 22:54
by Lancenix
x2x wrote:
Lancenix wrote:Sturm. Tyson Fury has come out and said that he thinks Browne was poisoned. Many others have said the same. I wonder if this could be true??

Did Fury say that? I am inclined to believe that Browne is innocent as well.
Yes he did. The video is up on youtube. Check it out and see what you think. He goes on in great detail about his thoughts on his positive test and being poisoned in general.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 09:06
by Badhusker
Browne went as far to pass a lie detector test too, so I am inclined to believe he is innocent.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 09:38
by ikorolev
Badhusker wrote:Browne went as far to pass a lie detector test too, so I am inclined to believe he is innocent.
He may be innocent, but if people are not punished based on some allegations with no proof, where will it lead the sport ? Corrupt officials will be able to decide who to punish and who not to punish ?

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 09:48
by Badhusker
ikorolev wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Browne went as far to pass a lie detector test too, so I am inclined to believe he is innocent.
He may be innocent, but if people are not punished based on some allegations with no proof, where will it lead the sport ? Corrupt officials will be able to decide who to punish and who not to punish ?
There may be a punishment, but they should give careful consideration to the fact that he was the one that wanted the random testing, and was tested by both blood and urine a week from the fight. He was "caught" by a urine only test after the fight with a drug that makes absolutely no sense as an advantage on his behalf. Just sounds awful fishy. He is the first one that wanted to take a lie detector test that I know of to prove his innocence.

The punishments are already all over the board it seems depending on who catches you, what you are caught with, and what sanctioning body you are fighting under. This was an illegal drug, but not a performance enhancing drug.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:20
by Lancenix
Badhusker wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Browne went as far to pass a lie detector test too, so I am inclined to believe he is innocent.
He may be innocent, but if people are not punished based on some allegations with no proof, where will it lead the sport ? Corrupt officials will be able to decide who to punish and who not to punish ?
There may be a punishment, but they should give careful consideration to the fact that he was the one that wanted the random testing, and was tested by both blood and urine a week from the fight. He was "caught" by a urine only test after the fight with a drug that makes absolutely no sense as an advantage on his behalf. Just sounds awful fishy. He is the first one that wanted to take a lie detector test that I know of to prove his innocence.

The punishments are already all over the board it seems depending on who catches you, what you are caught with, and what sanctioning body you are fighting under. This was an illegal drug, but not a performance enhancing drug.
This is why Fury claims that Browne's water was poisoned with a drug that had nothing to do with him winning. Fury said that in the fight against Klitschko all water offered by any German entity was turned away and they brought all of their own water and kept it in bottles, closely safeguarded by his own trainer and staff.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 20:35
by KingJune
A heavyweight taking a diuretic? Going to be ridiculous if he gets banned, obviously there is something strange going on there. If Browne gets banned boxing will be doing this :brick:

Fuck Felix Sturm.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 22:22
by Lackeos
KingJune wrote:A heavyweight taking a diuretic?
Yes, they do that sometimes when they're trying to fool a drug test. Do you not understand how that works?

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Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 22:34
by ClivePatrickLyons
hurricanemitch14 wrote:I truly believe Browne , sturm not so much.

:TU:

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Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 00:56
by tigermoth87
Sturm needs his career ending.

Browne I think is innocent so I don't think he will get a ban. I believe the guy anyway.

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Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 01:15
by bigman1968
Nothing legit happened in Chechnia in last 25 years :stop:

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Posted: 20 Apr 2016, 21:27
by Lancenix
Lackeos wrote:
KingJune wrote:A heavyweight taking a diuretic?
Yes, they do that sometimes when they're trying to fool a drug test. Do you not understand how that works?
That is true. Diuretics are often a positive in the olympics as well.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 21:41
by Badhusker
Correct me if I am wrong, but Clenbuterol is not a diuretic. There are 3 types of diuretics, and it is not listed under any of them.

Re: who will get a longer ban browne or sturm ? *

Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 21:49
by ikorolev
Clenbuterol is a sympathomimetic amine used by sufferers of breathing disorders as a decongestant and bronchodilator. People with chronic breathing disorders such as asthma use this as a bronchodilator to make breathing easier.

Weight-loss drug
Although often used by bodybuilders during their "cutting" cycles, the drug has been more recently known to the mainstream, particularly through publicized stories of use by celebrities such as Victoria Beckham, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan, for its off-label use as a weight-loss drug similar to usage of other sympathomimetic amines such as ephedrine, despite the lack of sufficient clinical testing either supporting or negating such use.