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just look when pedraza put power behind his punches

smith needs knock down at least

Decent effort by Smith. Pedraza the clear winner and is an awkward type. Constantly on the move and changing direction, long arms, very hard to hit clean. Can be a bit lazy and switches off. Gave Smith a few rounds and he had bursts of success. He'll have learned more from that fight than he did in his previous 6 or 7 so there are positives to be taken. He can come again and with the right matchmaking and correct timing you never know. Enjoyed the fight.

Pedraza is decent. Smith...not so much.

I feel sorry for Hyland. He's about to get his ass kicked.

Good fight.

Clear win for Pedraza but Smith kept it competitive at least. Good fight.

Back to Ireland, Hyland. These are real fighters over here.

diddy wrote:Back to Ireland, Hyland. These are real fighters over here.

If Russell Jr was a "real fighter" he wouldn't have been in with such a soft touch

Beautiful boxing display by Pedraza imo one of the better pr fighters right now.

And just wow Russell has gotten better imo while loma has been coasting by with lesser comp.

Russel beats Loma in a rematch

Boxing Prospect wrote:

diddy wrote:Back to Ireland, Hyland. These are real fighters over here.

If Russell Jr was a "real fighter" he wouldn't have been in with such a soft touch

This. How can a "world champion" think a fight against a guy not even ranked in the top 100 with a record more padded than Haye's opponents is a good title defence?

Boxing Prospect wrote:

diddy wrote:Back to Ireland, Hyland. These are real fighters over here.

If Russell Jr was a "real fighter" he wouldn't have been in with such a soft touch

Loma ain't too far behind his com p has been pitiful since the Russell fight.

kidbazooka1 wrote:Beautiful boxing display by Pedraza imo one of the better pr fighters right now.

And just wow Russell has gotten better imo while loma has been coasting by with lesser comp.

Russel beats Loma in a rematch

Lesser comp?

Hyland isn't even top 100. It was a joke of a fight. Anyone on Loma's resume... even that Thai guy with a padded record would beat Hyland.

I'd fancy my chances and the only fighting I've done was on Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

What exactly is Russell doing better these days? The speed that overwhelmed slow, upright Gonzalez and Hyland (130th on Boxrec) is something that Loma easily handled in their fight.

Gary did a great job of hitting air in that one.

tigermoth87 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Beautiful boxing display by Pedraza imo one of the better pr fighters right now.

And just wow Russell has gotten better imo while loma has been coasting by with lesser comp.

Russel beats Loma in a rematch

Lesser comp?

Hyland isn't even top 100. It was a joke of a fight. Anyone on Loma's resume... even that Thai guy with a padded record would beat Hyland.

I'd fancy my chances and the only fighting I've done was on Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

Ok so tell me who has Loma beaten since the Russell win that is better than Gonzalez?

Easy answer champ.

As for that "thai guy" noooooo that dude was just as bad or worse than Hyland.

kidbazooka1 wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:
Ok so tell me who has Loma beaten since the Russell win that is better than Gonzalez?

Easy answer champ.

As for that "thai guy" noooooo that dude was just as bad or worse than Hyland.

Difference is, Lomachenko has only had 6 fights. Russell Jr was his 3rd fight.

For a guy, at the time, just 3 fights into his pro-career, Piriyapino, Rodriguez and Koasicha are good opponents. Makes sense for Loma to take a step back from facing world level fighters like Solido and Russell Jr because he struggled against them. They were a step too far for him at this point so he obviously needed to take a step back, get some rounds in and some more experience before stepping up again. If he faced say, Santa Cruz or Cueller after beating Russell Jr I honestly think he'd have lost. It would be too early for him.

He's fighting Martinez next who is a decent opponent. After that, if he doesn't step up and start fighting better opponents again then I'll criticise him. Maybe not Santa Cruz or Selby just yet but someone like Hosono or Vetyeka.

Russell Jr was 26-1 and facing an utter bum who doesn't even crack the top 100. It was a joke. It's idiotic to compare an experienced pro like Russell Jr facing a bum to a relative novice (with excellent amateur pedigree, it's true) facing a bum.

But still, Loma's bums would beat Hyland who is frankly, utter shit. Hyland's best win is over Emmanuel Lucero.

I want to now how someone who is supposedly a boxing fan can justify Russel Jr, 26-1, an experienced pro, a legit world fighter defending against Hyland (ranked #130 in the world)?

So go ahead, champ. Justify why Russell Jr faced Hyland rather than someone actually good? There are #130 boxers ranked higher than him.

tigermoth87 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:
Ok so tell me who has Loma beaten since the Russell win that is better than Gonzalez?

Easy answer champ.

As for that "thai guy" noooooo that dude was just as bad or worse than Hyland.

Difference is, Lomachenko has only had 6 fights. Russell Jr was his 3rd fight.

For a guy, at the time, just 3 fights into his pro-career, Piriyapino, Rodriguez and Koasicha are good opponents. Makes sense for Loma to take a step back from facing world level fighters like Solido and Russell Jr because he struggled against them. They were a step too far for him at this point so he obviously needed to take a step back, get some rounds in and some more experience before stepping up again. If he faced say, Santa Cruz or Cueller after beating Russell Jr I honestly think he'd have lost. It would be too early for him.

He's fighting Martinez next who is a decent opponent. After that, if he doesn't step up and start fighting better opponents again then I'll criticise him. Maybe not Santa Cruz or Selby just yet but someone like Hosono or Vetyeka.

Russell Jr was 26-1 and facing an utter bum who doesn't even crack the top 100. It was a joke. It's idiotic to compare an experienced pro like Russell Jr facing a bum to a relative novice (with excellent amateur pedigree, it's true) facing a bum.

But still, Loma's bums would beat Hyland who is frankly, utter poo. Hyland's best win is over Emmanuel Lucero.

I want to now how someone who is supposedly a boxing fan can justify Russel Jr, 26-1, an experienced pro, a legit world fighter defending against Hyland (ranked #130 in the world)?

So go ahead, champ. Justify why Russell Jr faced Hyland rather than someone actually good? There are #130 boxers ranked higher than him.

Can you say double standards buddy.

Look don't give me this bs about Loma having only three fights the guy has had 400 amateur fights he's a far more experience fighter than Russell who was babied on the way up.

I don't justify Hyland but i gaurantee that if that was loma in with Hyland you guys would be singing a different tune no doubt about it.

Loma had always been considered the better fighter and definitely the more hyped fighter in these boards, yet Lomas comp has been utter garbage after the Russell win.

kidbazooka1 wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:
Can you say double standards buddy.

Look don't give me this bs about Loma having only three fights the guy has had 400 amateur fights he's a far more experience fighter than Russell who was babied on the way up.

I don't justify Hyland but i gaurantee that if that was loma in with Hyland you guys would be singing a different tune no doubt about it.

Loma had always been considered the better fighter and definitely the more hyped fighter in these boards, yet Lomas comp has been utter garbage after the Russell win.

There's a big difference between the amateurs and the pros. As Loma found out when he lost to Salido who, in the amateurs he would more than likely comfortably beat.

I wouldn't. I'd criticise any world level fighter going against Hyland who isn't even British level. I'd criticise any prospect for that matter like Josh Warrington facing Hyland because he's the sort of padded-record joke who Haye hand-picks. A featherweight Mark De Mori.

I agree, Loma hasn't been fighting the best of opponents. But all of them are better than Hyland and Loma needs more experience in the pros imo so it makes sense for him to face a few poorer opponents to get some rounds and experience in.

He lost to Solido and barely scraped a win vs Russell Jr. It was obvious he needed more experience before stepping up again.

tigermoth87 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:
Ok so tell me who has Loma beaten since the Russell win that is better than Gonzalez?

Easy answer champ.

As for that "thai guy" noooooo that dude was just as bad or worse than Hyland.

Difference is, Lomachenko has only had 6 fights. Russell Jr was his 3rd fight.

For a guy, at the time, just 3 fights into his pro-career, Piriyapino, Rodriguez and Koasicha are good opponents. Makes sense for Loma to take a step back from facing world level fighters like Solido and Russell Jr because he struggled against them. They were a step too far for him at this point so he obviously needed to take a step back, get some rounds in and some more experience before stepping up again. If he faced say, Santa Cruz or Cueller after beating Russell Jr I honestly think he'd have lost. It would be too early for him.

He's fighting Martinez next who is a decent opponent. After that, if he doesn't step up and start fighting better opponents again then I'll criticise him. Maybe not Santa Cruz or Selby just yet but someone like Hosono or Vetyeka.

Russell Jr was 26-1 and facing an utter bum who doesn't even crack the top 100. It was a joke. It's idiotic to compare an experienced pro like Russell Jr facing a bum to a relative novice (with excellent amateur pedigree, it's true) facing a bum.

But still, Loma's bums would beat Hyland who is frankly, utter poo. Hyland's best win is over Emmanuel Lucero.

I want to now how someone who is supposedly a boxing fan can justify Russel Jr, 26-1, an experienced pro, a legit world fighter defending against Hyland (ranked #130 in the world)?

So go ahead, champ. Justify why Russell Jr faced Hyland rather than someone actually good? There are #130 boxers ranked higher than him.

Hosono looks about done, Mr Ohashi keeps talking about getting him another world title fight but he's struggled with Fukuhara, Watanabe and Shimoda in recent bouts.