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If the fight happened next who do you think would win ???

Spence would win clearly

This would be a good gauge to see how good Spence is. I doubt he will go after Brook the way he has done with his previous opponents.

Can't see past Spence. Though I admittedly don't rate Brook as highly as some.

Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

digzee wrote:Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

Cotto ducked Brook?

Horse wrote:

digzee wrote:Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

Cotto ducked Brook?

Yep, Cotto wanted to fight in June but HBO rejected the 3 fighters he wanted to fight as they were not PPV worthy, HBO called Hearn and asked if Brook will take the fight and when HBO contacted Cotto they didn't get a reply then Hearn contacted ROC and again no reply. So now Cotto isn't going to fight in June he's going to wait and see whose available at the end of the year. http://www.BS.com/miguel-cotto ... ll--103504
Listen to Hearn from 4:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5mCzrn0Egc

Spence beats all of them.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spence beats all of them.

So, what do you think caused such significant improvement ? He wasn't so impressive in amateurs.

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spence beats all of them.

So, what do you think caused such significant improvement ? He wasn't so impressive in amateurs.

I don't watch amateur boxing. Can't say, I've been impressed every step of his pro career. He definitely has a pro style. Breaking down guys to the body won't win decisions in the amateurs.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spence beats all of them.

So, what do you think caused such significant improvement ? He wasn't so impressive in amateurs.

I don't watch amateur boxing. Can't say, I've been impressed every step of his pro career. He definitely has a pro style. Breaking down guys to the body won't win decisions in the amateurs.

His talent had always been recognized in the amateurs too, with an outstanding record that includes 2 wins over Amir Iman, and beating Sammy Vasquez. Who recently took out Aron Martinez.

Spence is the best and beats any WW that is active in the sport right now.

He easily dominated Algieri, Pac struggled with CA and though he knocked him down several times he was unable to finish him.

Spence made that fight look easy.

Khan was running from CA and couldn't get him out of there, this only shows how good Spence really is.

Pac didn't struggle with Algieri at all.

crusader wrote:Pac didn't struggle with Algieri at all.

This is true. However, Spence made it look easier.

Brook/Spence would be a sensational match-up. I'm leaning towards Spence. But I have to admit that bias has a lot to do with it. I am not ruling out Brook for a second. He is a top talent.

Who knows who would win, just make the match. COME ON EDDIE!!

Horse wrote:

digzee wrote:Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

Cotto ducked Brook?

Why would that surprise you? Cotto is overrated by the media because he is an HBO money maker who never comes up big in the big fight. He ran to the top of the hills in Puerto Rico when GGG and Brook challenged him.

crusader wrote:Pac didn't struggle with Algieri at all.

Spence would crush that little Filipino smurf. HBO will never let the fight happen. They have to protect all of their overrated stars.

Badhusker wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ikorolev wrote:
So, what do you think caused such significant improvement ? He wasn't so impressive in amateurs.

I don't watch amateur boxing. Can't say, I've been impressed every step of his pro career. He definitely has a pro style. Breaking down guys to the body won't win decisions in the amateurs.

His talent had always been recognized in the amateurs too, with an outstanding record that includes 2 wins over Amir Iman, and beating Sammy Vasquez. Who recently took out Aron Martinez.

I meant international arena, not beating other Americans. He lost an Olympic quarter-final to a Russian who lost in a semi-final. I also watched his 2011 fight with Kazakh Sapiyev (future Olympic champ) who literally beat Spence hands down.

Spence was the arguably the best amateur P4P in the US for a while and was only a win away from medals at the Olympics and World Championships. That's pretty solid (Porter, Thurman, and Garcia didn't even make the Olympic team) and there are many top pros who didn't have better amateur careers than Spence.

He also seems to have a style that is better suited to the pros.

crusader wrote:Spence was the arguably the best amateur P4P in the US for a while and was only a win away from medals at the Olympics and World Championships. That's pretty solid (Porter, Thurman, and Garcia didn't even make the Olympic team) and there are many top pros who didn't have better amateur careers than Spence.

He also seems to have a style that is better suited to the pros.

I agree with your last statement.

Speaking about being "the best amateur P4P in the US", it doesn't say much, because the level for US amateur boxing is not so high lately.

crusader wrote:Spence was the arguably the best amateur P4P in the US for a while and was only a win away from medals at the Olympics and World Championships. That's pretty solid (Porter, Thurman, and Garcia didn't even make the Olympic team) and there are many top pros who didn't have better amateur careers than Spence.

He also seems to have a style that is better suited to the pros.

To be fair though and I could be wrong so do correct me if so- didn't Thurman lose out to Demetrius Andrade in regards to his place? Theres no real shame in that if so.

digzee wrote:Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

Why would Cotto wanna fight Brook? What would he gain from it? He's not getting back down to 147 to challenge for the belt so it seems a pretty pointless fight for him in regards to risk to reward.

lefty wrote:

digzee wrote:Cotto ducked Brook for a reason and people on this forum will see why if this fight happens next.

Why would Cotto wanna fight Brook? What would he gain from it? He's not getting back down to 147 to challenge for the belt so it seems a pretty pointless fight for him in regards to risk to reward.

Brook would fight Cotto at any weight. He is even barking at Golovkin.

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:Spence was the arguably the best amateur P4P in the US for a while and was only a win away from medals at the Olympics and World Championships. That's pretty solid (Porter, Thurman, and Garcia didn't even make the Olympic team) and there are many top pros who didn't have better amateur careers than Spence.

He also seems to have a style that is better suited to the pros.

To be fair though and I could be wrong so do correct me if so- didn't Thurman lose out to Demetrius Andrade in regards to his place? Theres no real shame in that if so.

Thurman lost twice to Andrade in the Olympic trials, but even so he never really did anything to suggest that he was a standout amateur on the international stage.