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Who is the bigger threat to Anthony Joshua?

Are these the fighters he has to choose from?

If not, seems odd choices for a poll.

None of the above. I guess I'd prefer Breazeale. He has a lot of heart, not much skill.

Whyte is probably as big a danger as Stiverne, but we don't need to see that again.

Stiverne is always a risk because of his punching power, but he seems to be on the decline.

Brezeale is a big guy, but I don't see him posing much risk.

Molina can pop too, but he's probably the weakest of these options.

Dillian Whyte all the way.

Breazeale can't fight.
Stiverne doesn't fight.
Molina is a decent fighter, perhaps 15th best at best.

Who's not Whose

dillian whyte

i think 100% fit for the fight he'd beat aj in a rematch

The OP has obviously spotted that Boxrec has 72 different 'who will AJ fight next' threads and wanted a piece of the action.
I like how he's reworded the question though, nicely done.

I will say that i was impressed by Joshua's post fight comments in the ring. He didn't get overblown like Fury did with his ridiculous karaoke performance after beating a 50 year old guy. His reaction was exactly what it should have been and it endeared himself to many with the way he reacted but now the big money comes into play and we've seen all this play off before. Joshua says all the right things but the promoter will most likely advise him to take the easiest possible fight for the most money possible. My guess is that he'll just be another Kell Brook fighting nobodies until he has to fight someone because no one wants to pay to see him knockout taxi cab drivers anymore.

For once, i'd like to see a newly crowned champion take control of his own career and dictate who he wants to fight and take on the tough fights like GGG and Kovalev. Those two stars are shining the brightest right now for a reason. They talk the talk and they walk the walk. The rest of boxing is full of mouthpieces looking for a payday. Let's see if Joshua truly wants to be tested by the first and second defenses of the title that in all honesty, shouldn't have even been on the line the other day. Fury has the real belts.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:None of the above. I guess I'd prefer Breazeale. He has a lot of heart, not much skill.

Yeah all these opponents are mediocre to say the least. Stiverne hits the hardest of them all I figure, but he sucks.

Presumably he should fight anyone who can give him rounds, is durable, stiverne perhaps. It all should be warmups until any of Fury-Wilder-Joshua-Haye-(ortiz) fight.

Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

asdfjkl wrote:Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

Whyte vs Spong---who wins?

Whyte gave Joshua a scare, but I doubt Joshua would get as wound up and careless second time around.
Stiverne has big power, and it's unlikely Joshua would get on his bike and keep him the end of his jab for 12 rounds. So, he gets my vote.

crusader wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

Whyte vs Spong---who wins?

Whyte in boxing, they trained kickboxing together in Amsterdam a long time ago, Spong wasn't a heavyweight at the time yet. Spong became the world champion in 6 different weightclasses, Dillian left the kickboxing world and started boxing instead. Spong would beat the other two named above as well btw.

asdfjkl wrote:Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

White vs Stiverne would be very interesting, seeing as both have good chins and good power - Whyte is bigger and fresher, but I think Stiverne may still have better defense and boxing skills. An unmotivated 250lb Stiverne loses, but a fit 230lb Stiverne could still be a big threat.

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

White vs Stiverne would be very interesting, seeing as both have good chins and good power - Whyte is bigger and fresher, but I think Stiverne may still have better defense and boxing skills. An unmotivated 250lb Stiverne loses, but a fit 230lb Stiverne could still be a big threat.

Whyte would easely beat Wilder as well, Stiverne has like 0 chance.

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Dillian Whyte, Dillian Whyte would KO the other two in about 3 or 4 rounds, perhaps even less.

White vs Stiverne would be very interesting, seeing as both have good chins and good power - Whyte is bigger and fresher, but I think Stiverne may still have better defense and boxing skills. An unmotivated 250lb Stiverne loses, but a fit 230lb Stiverne could still be a big threat.

Whyte would easely beat Wilder as well, Stiverne has like 0 chance.

Silly comment - Whyte showed a good chin, heart and decent power against Joshua, and he's got some early stoppages over weak opposition, but he's done little else to prove himself - you seem to have a tendency to inflate the chances of unproven boxers. To say that a puncher as big as Stiverne has 0 chance against a guy as defensively limited as Whyte is ridiculous.

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
White vs Stiverne would be very interesting, seeing as both have good chins and good power - Whyte is bigger and fresher, but I think Stiverne may still have better defense and boxing skills. An unmotivated 250lb Stiverne loses, but a fit 230lb Stiverne could still be a big threat.

Whyte would easely beat Wilder as well, Stiverne has like 0 chance.

Silly comment - Whyte showed a good chin, heart and decent power against Joshua, and he's got some early stoppages over weak opposition, but he's done little else to prove himself - you seem to have a tendency to inflate the chances of unproven boxers. To say that a puncher as big as Stiverne has 0 chance against a guy as defensively limited as Whyte is ridiculous.

Well, I don't see a big puncher in Stiverne any more either so... When is the last time he KOed someone?

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Whyte would easely beat Wilder as well, Stiverne has like 0 chance.

Silly comment - Whyte showed a good chin, heart and decent power against Joshua, and he's got some early stoppages over weak opposition, but he's done little else to prove himself - you seem to have a tendency to inflate the chances of unproven boxers. To say that a puncher as big as Stiverne has 0 chance against a guy as defensively limited as Whyte is ridiculous.

Well, I don't see a big puncher in Stiverne any more either so... When is the last time he KOed someone?

Generally a boxer's punch is the last thing to go when they're on the decline. Last time he stopped someone was Arreola, which was pretty impressive seeing as no one had ever hurt Arreola like that before. That was almost two years ago now and he's only fought twice since - he struggled to deal with Wilder's superior speed and reach, but showed a good chin in going the distance - still the only guy to have done that. The Rossy fight is a definite black mark on Stiverne - if that's the standard we can expect from Bermane in the future, then your opinions about him are correct. I for one would be very interested to see a Whyte vs Stiverne fight - can't see that going the distance, surely (but I thought that about Wilder-Stiverne and I was dead wrong).

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:None of the above. I guess I'd prefer Breazeale. He has a lot of heart, not much skill.

Joshua beats them all. They all have a punchers chance and out of the 4 I'd say Breazeale is the biggest puncher.

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
Silly comment - Whyte showed a good chin, heart and decent power against Joshua, and he's got some early stoppages over weak opposition, but he's done little else to prove himself - you seem to have a tendency to inflate the chances of unproven boxers. To say that a puncher as big as Stiverne has 0 chance against a guy as defensively limited as Whyte is ridiculous.

Well, I don't see a big puncher in Stiverne any more either so... When is the last time he KOed someone?

Generally a boxer's punch is the last thing to go when they're on the decline. Last time he stopped someone was Arreola, which was pretty impressive seeing as no one had ever hurt Arreola like that before. That was almost two years ago now and he's only fought twice since - he struggled to deal with Wilder's superior speed and reach, but showed a good chin in going the distance - still the only guy to have done that. The Rossy fight is a definite black mark on Stiverne - if that's the standard we can expect from Bermane in the future, then your opinions about him are correct. I for one would be very interested to see a Whyte vs Stiverne fight - can't see that going the distance, surely (but I thought that about Wilder-Stiverne and I was dead wrong).

Stiverne is peak was during his Arreola fights and let's get real, Arreola was clearly on the decline back then already as well.
I can't take Stiverne, Arreola or pretty much any other American serious when it comes to top level boxing.
Wilder wasn't good enough to KO Stiverne, but he improved since that fight and probably can do it now, especially since Stiverne only went worse.
I think Wilder is currently the best American and Bryan Jennings the second best, then a few prospects and then those cruiserweights that became heavyweights. I would be very surprised if Stiverne makes it to the 4rth round, I wouldn't be with Jennings actually.

TBH with a bit of coaching I think even Nick Asberry can beat Stiverne at this moment.

Stiverne is a big puncher? I never thought so.

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Well, I don't see a big puncher in Stiverne any more either so... When is the last time he KOed someone?

Generally a boxer's punch is the last thing to go when they're on the decline. Last time he stopped someone was Arreola, which was pretty impressive seeing as no one had ever hurt Arreola like that before. That was almost two years ago now and he's only fought twice since - he struggled to deal with Wilder's superior speed and reach, but showed a good chin in going the distance - still the only guy to have done that. The Rossy fight is a definite black mark on Stiverne - if that's the standard we can expect from Bermane in the future, then your opinions about him are correct. I for one would be very interested to see a Whyte vs Stiverne fight - can't see that going the distance, surely (but I thought that about Wilder-Stiverne and I was dead wrong).

Stiverne is peak was during his Arreola fights and let's get real, Arreola was clearly on the decline back then already as well.
I can't take Stiverne, Arreola or pretty much any other American serious when it comes to top level boxing.
Wilder wasn't good enough to KO Stiverne, but he improved since that fight and probably can do it now, especially since Stiverne only went worse.
I think Wilder is currently the best American and Bryan Jennings the second best, then a few prospects and then those cruiserweights that became heavyweights. I would be very surprised if Stiverne makes it to the 4rth round, I wouldn't be with Jennings actually.

TBH with a bit of coaching I think even Nick Asberry can beat Stiverne at this moment.

I disagree that Arreola was clearly on the decline when he faced Stiverne - he was on a winning streak (admittedly against weak opposition) and lighter and in better shape than he had been in the past, and only 32-33 years old. Arreola is definitely on the decline now though, but he looked pretty good up until the stoppage in the second Stiverne fight.

I also disagree that Wilder has improved since the Stiverne fight - for me that was by far the best performance of his career and in his subsequent title defenses he has looked poor by comparison. Perhaps Wilder has improved, but his performances in the ring haven't shown it.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Stiverne is a big puncher? I never thought so.

21 KOs in 25 wins for a guy without exceptional speed, punch output or skill indicates a pretty big puncher. Not to mention he stopped Chris Arreola more impressively than Vitali and knocked him down in their first fight and Arreola isn't a guy you'd call chinny. Take away Stiverne's power and he's nothing more than a journeyman IMO.