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I know Fury is a unique bird and he is shockingly candid but after seeing this video it's hard to see Fury wanting to stick around boxing for a long reign - he sounds like he's content and satsified with what he's done and could just fade away in June vs Klitschko - like Buster did after he won the title -- http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/video-i ... ury-334125

I wouldn't be all that surprised.

He doesn't seem the type who wants to live a Spartan life of self-denial, and he's already pretty wealthy.

think he is probably fed up with all the bullsh!t that comes with trying to put a fight together

littlepug wrote:think he is probably fed up with all the bullsh!t that comes with trying to put a fight together

I reckon he likes enjoying his life. Who can blame him?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

littlepug wrote:think he is probably fed up with all the bullsh!t that comes with trying to put a fight together

I reckon he likes enjoying his life. Who can blame him?

yep make your money then get out and enjoy it

I think he's personally hurt by the lack of support from the boxing establishment in his native country. I don't blame him. Here he did a seemingly impossible thing (outboxing Klitschko at least eight or nine out of twelve rounds in Germany of all places) when so many have tried and failed and no one in the press gave him a shot of winning.

In Britain, instead of boasting and bragging about having the best heavyweight in the world, they throw all their support behind a relatively unproven heavyweight who won a trash can belt that was on the waist of a trash can fighter who won on a technicality over another trash can fighter, in a title fight that shouldn't have been in the first place. Yet the entire country is going bananas over him when just two months before he almost got sparked out against Dillian Whyte, who is domestic level at best.

In America, HBO and SHOWTIME ignore him and boast and brag about Deontay Wilder and his WBC trinket belt knocking over hand picked dead men and fringe hanger on's and speculate and jack off to the idea of a Wilder-Joshua contest, rather than give Fury the time of day. It's as if they sigh and say (reluctantly) "...but of course, the true champion is Fury" as if they are disappointed in a near seven foot, unorthodox, brash talking heavyweight who is just as entertaining out of the ring as he is in it.

The entire thing is a throwback to boxing's darker times. Rewind a hundred years and you see a similar situation where a loud, big, skillful heavyweight named Johnson defeated an unpopular champion.... and the entire world scorned the victory and instead looked at ANYONE ELSE in the world to be recognized as champion, or as a worthy challenger to defeat the "menace" that won the world's championship. That was because Johnson was 1) black, 2) controversial for the time, 3) trash talking, 4) considered unAmerican and for a number of years (as champion) lived as a man without a country.

Here we are in 2016.... a gypsy, whose been criticized heavily in the press for his views and language, who boasts and brags, and is considered "foreign" in his own birth country and isn't cherished on either side of the pond.... The date and times are different, but not the circumstance. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, the Romany Giant.... Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant.... the same story all over again. Only this time, its not the Great White Hope, but rather the Great Black British Hope and the Great Black American Hope are considered more "champion" and "proper" than the legitimate, linear, undisputed, true, champion of the world.

HomicideHenry wrote:I think he's personally hurt by the lack of support from the boxing establishment in his native country. I don't blame him. Here he did a seemingly impossible thing (outboxing Klitschko at least eight or nine out of twelve rounds in Germany of all places) when so many have tried and failed and no one in the press gave him a shot of winning.

In Britain, instead of boasting and bragging about having the best heavyweight in the world, they throw all their support behind a relatively unproven heavyweight who won a trash can belt that was on the waist of a trash can fighter who won on a technicality over another trash can fighter, in a title fight that shouldn't have been in the first place. Yet the entire country is going bananas over him when just two months before he almost got sparked out against Dillian Whyte, who is domestic level at best.

In America, HBO and SHOWTIME ignore him and boast and brag about Deontay Wilder and his WBC trinket belt knocking over hand picked dead men and fringe hanger on's and speculate and jack off to the idea of a Wilder-Joshua contest, rather than give Fury the time of day. It's as if they sigh and say (reluctantly) "...but of course, the true champion is Fury" as if they are disappointed in a near seven foot, unorthodox, brash talking heavyweight who is just as entertaining out of the ring as he is in it.

The entire thing is a throwback to boxing's darker times. Rewind a hundred years and you see a similar situation where a loud, big, skillful heavyweight named Johnson defeated an unpopular champion.... and the entire world scorned the victory and instead looked at ANYONE ELSE in the world to be recognized as champion, or as a worthy challenger to defeat the "menace" that won the world's championship. That was because Johnson was 1) black, 2) controversial for the time, 3) trash talking, 4) considered unAmerican and for a number of years (as champion) lived as a man without a country.

Here we are in 2016.... a gypsy, whose been criticized heavily in the press for his views and language, who boasts and brags, and is considered "foreign" in his own birth country and isn't cherished on either side of the pond.... The date and times are different, but not the circumstance. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, the Romany Giant.... Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant.... the same story all over again. Only this time, its not the Great White Hope, but rather the Great Black British Hope and the Great Black American Hope are considered more "champion" and "proper" than the legitimate, linear, undisputed, true, champion of the world.

A lot of good points and very well written. I think not having the power of the sky platform has really hurt his profile. I think there would be a lot more interest from the general public if he had been built up as part of the matchroom stable.

If he loses the upcoming fight badly, say gets KO'd - which is my prediction - I wonder if he'll just quit instead of going for the big third one. My guess is he'll go for the big rubber match and say he was unmotivated for the return fight and was injured but will get himself in top condition for #3, and then #3 will be big draw, a big money maker for the fighters and promoters. So that's my prediction, whatever it's worth. PS I like the guy.

Fury knows how to keep himself in the limelight.

He will be ready come fight time & he isn't going to fade away any time soon.

HomicideHenry wrote:I think he's personally hurt by the lack of support from the boxing establishment in his native country. I don't blame him. Here he did a seemingly impossible thing (outboxing Klitschko at least eight or nine out of twelve rounds in Germany of all places) when so many have tried and failed and no one in the press gave him a shot of winning.

In Britain, instead of boasting and bragging about having the best heavyweight in the world, they throw all their support behind a relatively unproven heavyweight who won a trash can belt that was on the waist of a trash can fighter who won on a technicality over another trash can fighter, in a title fight that shouldn't have been in the first place. Yet the entire country is going bananas over him when just two months before he almost got sparked out against Dillian Whyte, who is domestic level at best.

In America, HBO and SHOWTIME ignore him and boast and brag about Deontay Wilder and his WBC trinket belt knocking over hand picked dead men and fringe hanger on's and speculate and jack off to the idea of a Wilder-Joshua contest, rather than give Fury the time of day. It's as if they sigh and say (reluctantly) "...but of course, the true champion is Fury" as if they are disappointed in a near seven foot, unorthodox, brash talking heavyweight who is just as entertaining out of the ring as he is in it.

The entire thing is a throwback to boxing's darker times. Rewind a hundred years and you see a similar situation where a loud, big, skillful heavyweight named Johnson defeated an unpopular champion.... and the entire world scorned the victory and instead looked at ANYONE ELSE in the world to be recognized as champion, or as a worthy challenger to defeat the "menace" that won the world's championship. That was because Johnson was 1) black, 2) controversial for the time, 3) trash talking, 4) considered unAmerican and for a number of years (as champion) lived as a man without a country.

Here we are in 2016.... a gypsy, whose been criticized heavily in the press for his views and language, who boasts and brags, and is considered "foreign" in his own birth country and isn't cherished on either side of the pond.... The date and times are different, but not the circumstance. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, the Romany Giant.... Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant.... the same story all over again. Only this time, its not the Great White Hope, but rather the Great Black British Hope and the Great Black American Hope are considered more "champion" and "proper" than the legitimate, linear, undisputed, true, champion of the world.

I do think he's made a rod for his own back

I also think that the Gypsy population often mark themselves out as separate, they make a point about living a different life to other people, so it's no wonder they are seen as outsiders - I've nothing against anyone, but if you choose to separate yourself from the wider population, you can't really be surprised when you're viewed with suspicion and a degree of mistrust, it's just human nature unfortunately.

I think comparing Fury to Johnson, is frankly ridiculous - it's not like we have segregation for gypsies and non-gypsies now is it? You're really stretching things there.

HBO are going to boast about Wilder, he's American FFS! They are selling a story to get people to tune in, in Amercia, that means an American fighter, unsurprisingly.

I've a feeling that Fury is going to choose to go down the heel route, it's already coming out in interviews, but you know what, if you stick your finger up a dog's arse, don't act surprised when it turns round and bites your hand.

HomicideHenry wrote:I think he's personally hurt by the lack of support from the boxing establishment in his native country. I don't blame him. Here he did a seemingly impossible thing (outboxing Klitschko at least eight or nine out of twelve rounds in Germany of all places) when so many have tried and failed and no one in the press gave him a shot of winning.

In Britain, instead of boasting and bragging about having the best heavyweight in the world, they throw all their support behind a relatively unproven heavyweight who won a trash can belt that was on the waist of a trash can fighter who won on a technicality over another trash can fighter, in a title fight that shouldn't have been in the first place. Yet the entire country is going bananas over him when just two months before he almost got sparked out against Dillian Whyte, who is domestic level at best.

In America, HBO and SHOWTIME ignore him and boast and brag about Deontay Wilder and his WBC trinket belt knocking over hand picked dead men and fringe hanger on's and speculate and jack off to the idea of a Wilder-Joshua contest, rather than give Fury the time of day. It's as if they sigh and say (reluctantly) "...but of course, the true champion is Fury" as if they are disappointed in a near seven foot, unorthodox, brash talking heavyweight who is just as entertaining out of the ring as he is in it.

The entire thing is a throwback to boxing's darker times. Rewind a hundred years and you see a similar situation where a loud, big, skillful heavyweight named Johnson defeated an unpopular champion.... and the entire world scorned the victory and instead looked at ANYONE ELSE in the world to be recognized as champion, or as a worthy challenger to defeat the "menace" that won the world's championship. That was because Johnson was 1) black, 2) controversial for the time, 3) trash talking, 4) considered unAmerican and for a number of years (as champion) lived as a man without a country.

Here we are in 2016.... a gypsy, whose been criticized heavily in the press for his views and language, who boasts and brags, and is considered "foreign" in his own birth country and isn't cherished on either side of the pond.... The date and times are different, but not the circumstance. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, the Romany Giant.... Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant.... the same story all over again. Only this time, its not the Great White Hope, but rather the Great Black British Hope and the Great Black American Hope are considered more "champion" and "proper" than the legitimate, linear, undisputed, true, champion of the world.

Fury is an arsepiece that ducked out of defending his "british title" against the big punching David Price, who was knocking everyone out in 1 or 2 rounds, in favour for fighting for the Irish title against 42 year old Taxi Driver.

Is Fury really considered "foreign" or does he consider himself to be foreign? Go and watch his entrance to the Cunningham fight and tell me that's a man who considers himself a Brit, or considers himself to be representing Britain while fighting in the US.

I personally don't like Joshua much (or Fury for that matter) but Joshua brought home a gold medal for the Union flag, is based in london, has the backing of Sky, and doing what a heavyweight is supposed to do, in knocking out everyone in double quick time, that's why he has the backing behind him. It's not as simple as automatically commanding a fan base due to your nationality.

x2x wrote:If he loses the upcoming fight badly, say gets KO'd - which is my prediction - I wonder if he'll just quit instead of going for the big third one. My guess is he'll go for the big rubber match and say he was unmotivated for the return fight and was injured but will get himself in top condition for #3, and then #3 will be big draw, a big money maker for the fighters and promoters. So that's my prediction, whatever it's worth. PS I like the guy.

Who wins the 3rd fight then?

I think he's an emotional type who says what he thinks. He may be feeling a bit flat now but he's a fighter and he'll get back in the groove. I don't think he'll be disappearing for a while yet, he's a young guy

tyson says what he feels at the moment but come fight night he will be ready to box klitschko's head off

HBO does not televise Wilder - SHOWtime does and is televising Wilder vs Povetkin - clearly the US media and TV prefers black boxers and does not like high profile displays or expressions of CHRISTIANITY - of course we know the people who CONTROL the media (they are anti Christ) -

Good points about the lack of support for Fury from all sides - it really shows the power of the media how they have totally shunned and ignored Fury - they portray Fury negatively just as they did the Klitschos for most of their reign - Yet look how crazy the media is going saluting and hailing Joshua as something so special and great - the media has agendas and narratives which are designed to manipulate the masses - Fury has his work cut out if he truly wants to stay on the HWT throne -

Oiky wrote:tyson says what he feels at the moment but come fight night he will be ready to box klitschko's head off

Let's just be clear: Klit defeated himself by trying to follow his super cautious/boring/clinching style and not being able to adjust and take necessary risks. If Wlad manages to defeat his caution and fight more actively, Fury's chances won't be good.

ikorolev wrote:Let's just be clear: Klit defeated himself by trying to follow his super cautious/boring/clinching style and not being able to adjust and take necessary risks. If Wlad manages to defeat his caution and fight more actively, Fury's chances won't be good.

Fury defeated Wladimir by being much better.

HomicideHenry wrote:I think he's personally hurt by the lack of support from the boxing establishment in his native country. I don't blame him. Here he did a seemingly impossible thing (outboxing Klitschko at least eight or nine out of twelve rounds in Germany of all places) when so many have tried and failed and no one in the press gave him a shot of winning.

In Britain, instead of boasting and bragging about having the best heavyweight in the world, they throw all their support behind a relatively unproven heavyweight who won a trash can belt that was on the waist of a trash can fighter who won on a technicality over another trash can fighter, in a title fight that shouldn't have been in the first place. Yet the entire country is going bananas over him when just two months before he almost got sparked out against Dillian Whyte, who is domestic level at best.

In America, HBO and SHOWTIME ignore him and boast and brag about Deontay Wilder and his WBC trinket belt knocking over hand picked dead men and fringe hanger on's and speculate and jack off to the idea of a Wilder-Joshua contest, rather than give Fury the time of day. It's as if they sigh and say (reluctantly) "...but of course, the true champion is Fury" as if they are disappointed in a near seven foot, unorthodox, brash talking heavyweight who is just as entertaining out of the ring as he is in it.

The entire thing is a throwback to boxing's darker times. Rewind a hundred years and you see a similar situation where a loud, big, skillful heavyweight named Johnson defeated an unpopular champion.... and the entire world scorned the victory and instead looked at ANYONE ELSE in the world to be recognized as champion, or as a worthy challenger to defeat the "menace" that won the world's championship. That was because Johnson was 1) black, 2) controversial for the time, 3) trash talking, 4) considered unAmerican and for a number of years (as champion) lived as a man without a country.

Here we are in 2016.... a gypsy, whose been criticized heavily in the press for his views and language, who boasts and brags, and is considered "foreign" in his own birth country and isn't cherished on either side of the pond.... The date and times are different, but not the circumstance. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, the Romany Giant.... Jack Johnson, the Galveston Giant.... the same story all over again. Only this time, its not the Great White Hope, but rather the Great Black British Hope and the Great Black American Hope are considered more "champion" and "proper" than the legitimate, linear, undisputed, true, champion of the world.

Great post & I like the comparison to my personal favourite heavyweight, Jack Johnson

Fury did get plenty of kudos after his win but his 'unique' character does mean that he won't get the same coverage as the media friendly, sound bite trained AND Olympic Gold Medallist, Anthony Joshua.

Joshua's career is very carefully managed to appeal to the general public whereas Fury just lives off the cuff (which I love) and also has his dad spouting complete nonsense all the time (his dad seems like a laugh too).

When you have a genial KO artist saying all the right things compared to a skilful, but rarely exciting, bloke who rambles on for ages & says derogatory comments about Gays & women, you can only have one winner with Joe Public.

And as weird as this might sound to Americans - having someone banging on about god & jesus all the time doesn't endear Fury to the public like it would Stateside.

Personally, I love Fury. I don't take him seriously at all & he does crack me up. My favourite moment of his was actually outside of the ring when he performed a duet with Kevin Johnson (piano). It was just brilliant.

I think he will, but not yet. I could see his aim being along the lines of unify quickly and retire undefeated.

Horse wrote:

x2x wrote:If he loses the upcoming fight badly, say gets KO'd - which is my prediction - I wonder if he'll just quit instead of going for the big third one. My guess is he'll go for the big rubber match and say he was unmotivated for the return fight and was injured but will get himself in top condition for #3, and then #3 will be big draw, a big money maker for the fighters and promoters. So that's my prediction, whatever it's worth. PS I like the guy.

Who wins the 3rd fight then?

My crystal ball doesn't show that yet...just clouds. If you cross my palm with silver I think my crystal ball might show more.

x2x wrote:My crystal ball doesn't show that yet...just clouds. If you cross my palm with silver I think my crystal ball might show more.

On second thoughts I'd rather not have the result spoiled.

Usual nonsense about him being gypsy. As if it has anything to do with him been shunned.

Only interesting thing from that interview is how fat he looks. I dont think I have seen him that overweight. Looks more and more likely he is getting knocked out in the rematch.

I think he won the first easily, ate a handful of good shots but he didn't look like he'd even been in a fight. Klitschko is not going to all of the sudden turn into Mike Tyson. And that's his only shot.

ikorolev wrote:

Oiky wrote:tyson says what he feels at the moment but come fight night he will be ready to box klitschko's head off

Let's just be clear: Klit defeated himself by trying to follow his super cautious/boring/clinching style and not being able to adjust and take necessary risks. If Wlad manages to defeat his caution and fight more actively, Fury's chances won't be good.

Tyson beat WK because he psyched him out before the fight with his confidence and his verbal attacks - also the singing to WK in the ring during the fight week media workouts showed WK that Fury is a truly entertaining character worthy personality wise of being HWT champ - Fury showed WK he is the superior and more entertaining personality - then in the ring his size and skills and confidence (see staredown) intimidated WK - WK just didn't know what to do - Fury was so good he just froze WK- action wise it was a bad fight but psychologically and chess match wise it was absolute brilliance by Fury -