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Haymon monkey business?
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 18:22
by montrealsuper
Stiverne plods and loses the WBC belt to Haymon's fighter Wilder. Stiverne's effort looked suspect. King controls Stiverne who is a very poor sell in the US - he's a Haitian introvert who lacks the charisma and flair to be a star. Also he's 38. Wilder has the huge upside. So it's conceivable that King and Stiverne take the payday from Haymon and sell the belt. Then, a very suspicious thing happened. King's fighter Molina gets the first title shot at Wilder and at the press conference King actually promises that Molina is going to give Wilder a very tough fight and King said that Stiverne "transferred the title" to Wilder. WHOA! "Transfer" implies that Stiverne sold the title to Wilder who didn't really earn it. Most people didn't pick up on this shocking exchange at the press conference. Fast forward: Glazkov and Haymon fighter Charles Martin fight for the vacant IBF belt and strangely Glazkov hurts his knee and quits the fight, giving the belt to Martin. So what do Martin and Haymon do next? They fight Anthony Joshua. But it's hardly a fight. Martin basically plods and goes down and gives no effort to try to win the fight. John Fury said it looked like WWF wrestling (fake). So it looks like Haymon and Martin sell the belt to Joshua/Hearn for $2.5 million - consider that Andrew Golota earned $50,000 for his title fights with Byrd and Ruiz - and GOLOTA was the SELLING POINT of both cards at Madison Square Garden - Golota was the main event both nights drawing the huge Polish crowds. So it looks like Haymon and Martin sell the belt and then Haymon's fighter Brazeale gets the first title shot at Joshua. Smells like monkey business is going on with Haymon and King and Hearn. Joshua will surely beat Brazeale. It will be very interesting to see if Joshua's second title defense is another Haymon heavyweight. Discuss...
Re: Haymon monkey business?
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 00:40
by bigman1968
Monkey business in boxing? Must be something new
Don't flatter Haymon, he invented nothing new...grandpa King can still teach him a trick or two

Re: Haymon monkey business?
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 02:00
by bigman1968
montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne plods and loses the WBC belt to Haymon's fighter Wilder. Stiverne's effort looked suspect. King controls Stiverne who is a very poor sell in the US - he's a Haitian introvert who lacks the charisma and flair to be a star. Also he's 38. Wilder has the huge upside. So it's conceivable that King and Stiverne take the payday from Haymon and sell the belt. Then, a very suspicious thing happened. King's fighter Molina gets the first title shot at Wilder and at the press conference King actually promises that Molina is going to give Wilder a very tough fight and King said that Stiverne "transferred the title" to Wilder. WHOA! "Transfer" implies that Stiverne sold the title to Wilder who didn't really earn it. Most people didn't pick up on this shocking exchange at the press conference. Fast forward: Glazkov and Haymon fighter Charles Martin fight for the vacant IBF belt and strangely Glazkov hurts his knee and quits the fight, giving the belt to Martin. So what do Martin and Haymon do next? They fight Anthony Joshua. But it's hardly a fight. Martin basically plods and goes down and gives no effort to try to win the fight. John Fury said it looked like WWF wrestling (fake). So it looks like Haymon and Martin sell the belt to Joshua/Hearn for $2.5 million - consider that Andrew Golota earned $50,000 for his title fights with Byrd and Ruiz - and GOLOTA was the SELLING POINT of both cards at Madison Square Garden - Golota was the main event both nights drawing the huge Polish crowds. So it looks like Haymon and Martin sell the belt and then Haymon's fighter Brazeale gets the first title shot at Joshua. Smells like monkey business is going on with Haymon and King and Hearn. Joshua will surely beat Brazeale. It will be very interesting to see if Joshua's second title defense is another Haymon heavyweight. Discuss...
But why to start with Stiverne-Wilder? Stiverne(King's guy) got his belt fighting and winning Arreolla(Haymon's guy).
And when had a fight with Wilder(Haymon's guy) and lost. The fight was legit, went the distance and Stiverne did not give away the fight giving Wilder his only decision win in pro boxing.
Since fighting Molina(King's) Wilder had 2 guys from Europe and soon will fight Povetkin...none of the 3 is King's, as far as I know
As to Martin's win over Glazkov(whos guy is he, by the way?), just rewotch the video and see Glazkov knee bends in live
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Martin's "win" was unpleasant surprise for IBF...and Haymon did the best business decision for him and Martin(won the jeckpot

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Usual pro boxing business, no major conspiracy...
Re: Haymon monkey business?
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 08:25
by montrealsuper
Wilder's two wins since molina were against cup cakes who had zero chance - King knew selling Stiverne was impossible - HBO and Showtime had little interest and little $ to spend on a 37 yr old boring Haitian - King knew there was more $ in selling Stiverne's belt to Wilder and Haymon - Stiverne is finished - he can't sell anything -- Glazkov is with Kathy Duva main events - he's another nothing special / non seller - I would not rule out that Glozkov sold out to Haymon and martin - FOLLOW the $$$ -
Re: Haymon monkey business?
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 14:56
by actjac
Nothing new here. . .