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Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 17:20
by Kalan
I call it the Can-Con job... Canelo wanted an easy opponent. He found one going 2 divisions down to the Welterweight ranks.

The latest hype article I read on this "fight" on ESB included this... "We can expect plenty of in and out movement from Khan, raids as he lets go with an explosive burst of shots, picks up points, and then uses his fast legs to get safely out of range. The big question is, what will happen if Canelo is able to cut off the ring and trap Khan, unloading big shots? Will Canelo’s physical strength come into play at some stage in the fight?"

Give me a break. This will be a brutal mugging not a fight.. Ask yourself this.. Khan HATES to fight big punchers and the last puncher he fought was Danny Garcia. Did Khan execute explosive raids on Garcia? Did he even execute explosive raids on feather fisted Chris Algieri? The limp wristed Algieri actually carried the fight to a running, grabbing, and wrestling Khan.. Maybe that grabfest gave Algieri the confidence to believe he could stay with Errol Spence.. Apparently the green horned Spence is much faster, stronger, and more skilled than Khan -- because he dominated and easily outboxed Algieri—with NO grabbing or running---while bouncing Algieri off the canvas a few times before the referee saved Algieri's life by stopping the fight. So do you think the undefeated Errol Spence is going to be Canelo's next selection??? -- NO!!! That would not be a cherry pick would it???

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 17:32
by ikorolev
That's what Floyd did to the sport: now it is all about money and nothing else. If Floyd could avoid types of fighters he didn't want to fight -- skilled and rangy boxers and still get 8-digit purses for fighting Guerreros, Ortizes, Maidanas and Bertos, then why shouldn't everybody else do that ?

Cotto is doing that, Canelo is doing that, top PBC fighters are doing that.

Another fishy thing about Canelo/DLH -- some cards he got against Trout, Lara, Floyd and Cotto. Clearly somebody supporting Canelo and/or making big bucks on betting has a way of influencing judges. You basically need to stop Canelo or clearly school him to get a decision.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 17:33
by SenorPipino
Hey, give Canelo a break.

Picking easy defenses is nothing new in boxing. It's been going on far longer than you or I have followed the sport.

Can you say Joe "King' Roman? Terry Daniels? Jean Pierre Coopman? Caveman Lee?

If he wants to take on a weenie welter in his first (semi) middleweight title fight, then Canelo is as entitled as any other champion in boxing, past or present.

He's beaten names like Lara, Trout, Cotto, Kirkland, Mosely and Baldomir so we know he can fight.

Sure, we know Canelo will stop the fragile Brit Khan as soon as he breathes on him, but so what?

Mayweather and Pacquiao didn't want any part of Khan, for whatever reasons.

At least the Mexican star didn't choose the dreaded Dominic Wade as a challenger. Now who would sink that low?

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 17:35
by SNG
I would give up my first born for this to blow up in Canelo and Golden Boy's face. Khan being the lineal middleweight champion of the world at their expense would cheer me up no end, I'll still be laughing come Christmas.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:09
by world ranked
SenorPipino wrote:Hey, give Canelo a break.

Picking easy defenses is nothing new in boxing. It's been going on far longer than you or I have followed the sport.

Can you say Joe "King' Roman? Terry Daniels? Jean Pierre Coopman? Caveman Lee?

If he wants to take on a weenie welter in his first (semi) middleweight title fight, then Canelo is as entitled as any other champion in boxing, past or present.

He's beaten names like Lara, Trout, Cotto, Kirkland, Mosely and Baldomir so we know he can fight.

Sure, we know Canelo will stop the fragile Brit Khan as soon as he breathes on him, but so what?

Mayweather and Pacquiao didn't want any part of Khan, for whatever reasons.

At least the Mexican star didn't choose the dreaded Dominic Wade as a challenger. Now who would sink that low?
He had to sink that low because they lineal champ won't give him his shot and no one else at middleweight will fight him for reasonable money.
Canelo sink and didn't fight a guy in the division or the division below :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:18
by jockpunk
SenorPipino wrote:Hey, give Canelo a break.

At least the Mexican star didn't choose the dreaded Dominic Wade as a challenger. Now who would sink that low?
I dunno, a dude who actually faces his mandatories?

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:24
by ikorolev
After the ginger chicken drops the belt or gets stripped by WBC, he will be routinely called a coward.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:27
by world ranked
ikorolev wrote:After the ginger chicken drops the belt or gets stripped by WBC, he will be routinely called a coward.
WBC won't strip him. WBC has made GGG there b**ch since Martinez had the belt. They have no intention of striping him. I remember them Saying GGG-Rubio winner would get the title shot next. :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:47
by Kalan
"At least the Mexican star didn't choose the dreaded Dominic Wade"

Wade was Golovkin's MANDATORY CHALLENGER bud... GGG had to fight him or be stripped... GGG ONLY fought Wade because Canelo, Saunders, and Jacobs wanted NO part of Triple-G... Golovkin's team spent months trying to get Canelo, Saunders, and Jacobs.. If Canelo fought Golovkin instead of cherry-picking the China chinned Welterweight Khan -- then GGG WOULDN'T BE FORCED to fight a blowout walkover like Wade.

Do you think Golovkin enjoys training hard for 10 weeks so he can fight a bum like Wade for 4 minutes??? Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo were ALL mandatory challengers for GGG but they were able to buy "exceptions" from the WBC to fight whoever they wanted... Part of the reason Wade was GGG's mandatory challenger is he's the best Middleweight in the world who would agree to fight Golovkin... GGG sold out the Inglewood Forum fighting a no-hoper... Think what a Golovkin-Canelo fight would bring -- beside certain defeat for Canelo.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 19:50
by Nightmare Roy
Khan will box his ears off! I'm putting £500 on it.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:34
by ikorolev
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:After the ginger chicken drops the belt or gets stripped by WBC, he will be routinely called a coward.
WBC won't strip him. WBC has made GGG there b**ch since Martinez had the belt. They have no intention of striping him. I remember them Saying GGG-Rubio winner would get the title shot next. :lol:
Sulaiman made a couple statements recently which pretty clearly stated that they would strip Canelo if he refuses to fight Golovkin next. It will be hard for him to back up now.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:36
by world ranked
ikorolev wrote:
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:After the ginger chicken drops the belt or gets stripped by WBC, he will be routinely called a coward.
WBC won't strip him. WBC has made GGG there b**ch since Martinez had the belt. They have no intention of striping him. I remember them Saying GGG-Rubio winner would get the title shot next. :lol:
Sulaiman made a couple statements recently which pretty clearly stated that they would strip Canelo if he refuses to fight Golovkin next. It will be hard for him to back up now.
He was saying that since Martinez had the belt he has to say that.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:37
by ikorolev
Nightmare Roy wrote:Khan will box his ears off! I'm putting £500 on it.
If you got money you don't need, can you just send it to me ? Even if Khan was able to last 12 rounds (which is unlikely), he wouldn't get a decision. Trout and Lara didn't, neither will Khan.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:39
by ikorolev
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
world ranked wrote:
WBC won't strip him. WBC has made GGG there b**ch since Martinez had the belt. They have no intention of striping him. I remember them Saying GGG-Rubio winner would get the title shot next. :lol:
Sulaiman made a couple statements recently which pretty clearly stated that they would strip Canelo if he refuses to fight Golovkin next. It will be hard for him to back up now.
He was saying that since Martinez had the belt he has to say that.
No, he has never been so blunt about that.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:47
by Nightmare Roy
ikorolev wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:Khan will box his ears off! I'm putting £500 on it.
If you got money you don't need, can you just send it to me ? Even if Khan was able to last 12 rounds (which is unlikely), he wouldn't get a decision. Trout and Lara didn't, neither will Khan.
It will be so one sided it won't matter!

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:50
by world ranked
ikorolev wrote:
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Sulaiman made a couple statements recently which pretty clearly stated that they would strip Canelo if he refuses to fight Golovkin next. It will be hard for him to back up now.
He was saying that since Martinez had the belt he has to say that.
No, he has never been so blunt about that.
Sure Sulaiman strips a Mexican fighter who brings some of the most money in the sport.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 20:54
by ikorolev
Why do some people think that everything is about money ? Sulaiman is a rich person. He will survive if Canelo doesn't pay sanctioning fees. He may be more concerned about keeping a disgrace of a Mexican as a champion.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 21:06
by world ranked
ikorolev wrote:Why do some people think that everything is about money ? Sulaiman is a rich person. He will survive if Canelo doesn't pay sanctioning fees. He may be more concerned about keeping a disgrace of a Mexican as a champion.
Canelo can never be a disagrace to Mexican fans. Money is what keeps boxing going and stars. Part of Canelo intrigued to people is that he's the middleweight champ.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 21:11
by KingJune
Khan is a brave heart and I wish him all the best with his career. I feel bad because I think Saturday Khan is going to be out gunned and is going to get KO'd. However if Khan somehow pulls of the upset (which is almost impossible) he is the 1# P4P number in the world undeniably. The man started his career at 135.

I wish more fighters would test themselves and WANT TO BE THE BEST! He turned down more money to fight Brook (much easier fight) because this is for Legacy! Khan is a man's man

Let's not trash the entire fight. You have to give credit where credit is due. If all fighters had the heart of Amir Khan Boxing would be 1000X's better :OhYes:

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 21:12
by world ranked
KingJune wrote:Khan is a brave heart and I wish him all the best with his career. I feel bad because I think Saturday Khan is going to be out gunned and is going to get KO'd. However if Khan somehow pulls of the upset (which is almost impossible) he is the 1# P4P number in the world undeniably. The man started his career at 135.

I wish more fighters would test themselves and WANT TO BE THE BEST! He turned down more money to fight Brook (much easier fight) because this is for Legacy! Khan is a man's man

Let's not trash the entire fight. You have to give credit where credit is due. If all fighters had the heart of Amir Khan Boxing would be 1000X's better :OhYes:
#1 p4p based on what?

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 21:31
by ikorolev
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Why do some people think that everything is about money ? Sulaiman is a rich person. He will survive if Canelo doesn't pay sanctioning fees. He may be more concerned about keeping a disgrace of a Mexican as a champion.
Canelo can never be a disagrace to Mexican fans. Money is what keeps boxing going and stars. Part of Canelo intrigued to people is that he's the middleweight champ.
Not too many people even among Mexicans will consider him a MW champion if he doesn't fight Golovkin. Mexicans don't like cowards and quitters.

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 21:37
by world ranked
ikorolev wrote:
world ranked wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Why do some people think that everything is about money ? Sulaiman is a rich person. He will survive if Canelo doesn't pay sanctioning fees. He may be more concerned about keeping a disgrace of a Mexican as a champion.
Canelo can never be a disagrace to Mexican fans. Money is what keeps boxing going and stars. Part of Canelo intrigued to people is that he's the middleweight champ.
Not too many people even among Mexicans will consider him a MW champion if he doesn't fight Golovkin. Mexicans don't like cowards and quitters.
Canelo will get a pass he already has for his performance vs Floyd, Lara and Trout all for fighting Khan a welterweight for the middleweight title and
being considered a p4p guy :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Khan is what's WRONG with Boxing

Posted: 01 May 2016, 22:18
by Kalan
"He turned down more money to fight Brook (much easier fight) because this is for Legacy! Khan is a man's man"

Khan REFUSED to fight Brook because he'd get knocked cold worse than Canelo will KO him - and it would DESTROY Khan's reputation. But if Khan gets knocked out by Canelo EVERYBODY already EXPECTS that result... Khan CAN'T LOSE!!! Khan can take a medium hit to the body like Oscar De La Hoya did when Bernard Hopkins started to beat him up... Then Khan could fall down, and take the count... He might win an Oscar for his performance... Khan would have made much more money for Brook BECAUSE Brook and been chasing Khan for years---and is desperate to get him into a ring... Khan is deathly afraid of Brook, Spence, Thurman, and Porter... But losing to Canelo will NOT MEAN A THING. It's like Oscar losing to B-Hop... That fight made Oscar 25 million dollars and did NOTHING to diminish Oscar's reputation.. On the other hand Winky Wright and Oscar were 154-pound champions at the SAME TIME.. Wright kept proposing a Super Welterweight Unification Fight.. Oscar pursued a fight with Yory Boy Campas instead because he knew losing to Wright would really hurt him. And he WOULD have lost.

This fight was offered to Khan because he's a chinny Welterweight and it's a very easy win for Canelo.. It's a lot of money for Khan with no real risk.. He knows he's going to lose.. He'll go as hard as he can for as long as he can - but Algieri to Canelo is big jump and Khan isn't stupid.