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I actually think Spence Jr is a bit more terrifying than Golovkin & Sergei! What makes Spence much more scary is that he beats up guys with precise

boxing fundamentals he's always in position always has proper stance and footing to attack. He's never out of position like a Mayweather or Ward!

[email protected] will go on record saying that any top fighter in that weight class will avoid avoid avoid and avoid some more hell no to an Errol Spence Jr

ass beating! Shawn's expression is priceless when asked about Spence he was like "[email protected] Put Me On The Spot Mentioning

THAT Dude's Name? Bastard." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G51_EXr4vIE

bnovelist wrote:I actually think Spence Jr is a bit more terrifying than Golovkin & Sergei! What makes Spence much more scary is that he beats up guys with precise boxing fundamentals

I like Spence. He's a big, tall, strong, slick boxing, dynamite punching southpaw Welterweight who would FLATTEN FLOYD!!! ... He sure gave Floyd a good going over when he had 16 fights. Now he has 20 fights. I figure Kell Brook will give Spence all he wants - but Kell has 35 fights. Spence has 20 fights and has come up so fast there's not a lot of space between those 2. It's not like Brook would dominate him.

I guarantee you this... Khan, Pacquiao, Maidana, Bradley, and Garcia are NOT about to fight this kid. They'd soon be on the canvas looking up. So you don't know. I actually was AMAZED that John David Jackson let Algieri fight Spence. WHY??? ... I can see putting Algieri in with Provodnikov, Pacquiao, and Khan ... but Spence? Are you serious??? ... Spence was very lucky to get that fight and it may be the last time he gets lucky. I don't think he'll face the GGG situation - and BTW I think GGG is an even better boxer than Spence. Errol, KT, Kell, and Shawn are going to pass around their titles... and that group of 147 duckers is going to pass around their titles... That's why they have 4 or 5 World Champs in each weight class now isn't it?? So you can be a World Champion and don't have to fight anybody good. You effective wall them off like has been happening with Golovkin for the last 6 years. Danny Garcia will be matched with Andre Berto.

For once, I agree with Bnov on this one. As I watched that fight against Algieri I remember thinking "Is it possible to look TOO GOOD in your first big fight? Who in the HELL is excited about fighting this kid after watching this fight?"

As for being scarier than GGG or Kovalev, I might even agree with you there as well. Guys have been able to avoid a beating by staying down against GGG after taking a big shot. Kovalev is a little scarier than GGG because he doesn't have that one punch, lights out destruction GGG trademarks. Kovalev wants to systematically break fighters over many more rounds and make his opponents suffer.

But with Spence, the beating that he gave Algieri was almost cruel and torturous because there was no easy way out of that one for Algieri. You could almost see it his face after the second round, a look that said "what the heck did i get myself into here".

BTW, this is why I think Promoters have it wrong with the way they bring their star boxers along. A blind man could see that Spence was a top WW years ago. There's no need to showcase the kid against bums for 20 fights before stepping them up. Spence was brought along way too slow and he's going to struggle just as bad as GGG is finding people to sign the dotted line. That wouldn't have happened if this Algieri fight happened 2 years ago. Shame.

Kalan wrote:

bnovelist wrote:I actually think Spence Jr is a bit more terrifying than Golovkin & Sergei! What makes Spence much more scary is that he beats up guys with precise boxing fundamentals

I like Spence. He's a big, tall, strong, slick boxing, dynamite punching southpaw Welterweight who would FLATTEN FLOYD!!! ... He sure gave Floyd a good going over when he had 16 fights. Now he has 20 fights. I figure Kell Brook will give Spence all he wants - but Kell has 35 fights. Spence has 20 fights and has come up so fast there's not a lot of space between those 2. It's not like Brook would dominate him.

I guarantee you this... Khan, Pacquiao, Maidana, Bradley, and Garcia are NOT about to fight this kid. They'd soon be on the canvas looking up. So you don't know. I actually was AMAZED that John David Jackson let Algieri fight Spence. WHY??? ... I can see putting Algieri in with Provodnikov, Pacquiao, and Khan ... but Spence? Are you serious??? ... Spence was very lucky to get that fight and it may be the last time he gets lucky. I don't think he'll face the GGG situation - and BTW I think GGG is an even better boxer than Spence. Errol, KT, Kell, and Shawn are going to pass around their titles... and that group of 147 duckers is going to pass around their titles... That's why they have 4 or 5 World Champs in each weight class now isn't it?? So you can be a World Champion and don't have to fight anybody good. You effective wall them off like has been happening with Golovkin for the last 6 years. Danny Garcia will be matched with Andre Berto.

this sounds exactly like the two parts of bnov's 'personality', talking amongst themselves.

I reckon Kell Brook is the best welterweight in the world, I'm still waiting to be proved wrong. We'll see, I honestly believe its only because welter is the only thing americans have anything to shout about that Brook gets a bad rap. Wilder at heavy has fought far worse than Brook and apparently he's the second coming of Ali. Is Brook scared of Spence? Is he fvck, can Hearn sell it to the British paying public? He'll try, but the chance to add another belt will always win out, Vargas will be nextl

tsmithy50 wrote:I reckon Kell Brook is the best welterweight in the world, I'm still waiting to be proved wrong. We'll see, I honestly believe its only because welter is the only thing americans have anything to shout about that Brook gets a bad rap. Wilder at heavy has fought far worse than Brook and apparently he's the second coming of Ali. Is Brook scared of Spence? Is he fvck, can Hearn sell it to the British paying public? He'll try, but the chance to add another belt will always win out, Vargas will be nextl

I think you should have said waiting to be proved right. Like Spence, he needs some real competition to see just how good he is. Neither is all that until they prove it. Brook gets a bad rap because of his competition, the same as Wilder....no different, and your "Americans" comment is just plain stupid. I like Brook, and wish Khan wouldn't avoid him like the plague so we can see at least who is the best between the two. I hope Brook stays at welter long enough to at least fight Spence, but have my doubts.

caldo2025 wrote:For once, I agree with Bnov on this one. As I watched that fight against Algieri I remember thinking "Is it possible to look TOO GOOD in your first big fight? Who in the HELL is excited about fighting this kid after watching this fight?"

As for being scarier than GGG or Kovalev, I might even agree with you there as well. Guys have been able to avoid a beating by staying down against GGG after taking a big shot. Kovalev is a little scarier than GGG because he doesn't have that one punch, lights out destruction GGG trademarks. Kovalev wants to systematically break fighters over many more rounds and make his opponents suffer.

But with Spence, the beating that he gave Algieri was almost cruel and torturous because there was no easy way out of that one for Algieri. You could almost see it his face after the second round, a look that said "what the heck did i get myself into here".

BTW, this is why I think Promoters have it wrong with the way they bring their star boxers along. A blind man could see that Spence was a top WW years ago. There's no need to showcase the kid against bums for 20 fights before stepping them up. Spence was brought along way too slow and he's going to struggle just as bad as GGG is finding people to sign the dotted line. That wouldn't have happened if this Algieri fight happened 2 years ago. Shame.

I don't think it would have made a difference if his promoter got him in against top fighters sooner. This is the era of ducking. If anything if he destroyed algierie 2 years ago the same way he did last month it might have made it worse because he was younger and few people even knew who he was.

He's like the new current early 80s version of Thomas Hitman Hearns & I can see why Floyd was like "Get Out Of Our Camp With That Bullshit! Send

That Muthaf@cka Packing Home! What Is This? A Cruel Joke?? Escort His Ass Out of Here!"

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tsmithy50 wrote:I reckon Kell Brook is the best welterweight in the world, I'm still waiting to be proved wrong. We'll see, I honestly believe its only because welter is the only thing americans have anything to shout about that Brook gets a bad rap. Wilder at heavy has fought far worse than Brook and apparently he's the second coming of Ali. Is Brook scared of Spence? Is he fvck, can Hearn sell it to the British paying public? He'll try, but the chance to add another belt will always win out, Vargas will be nextl

I think you should have said waiting to be proved right. Like Spence, he needs some real competition to see just how good he is. Neither is all that until they prove it. Brook gets a bad rap because of his competition, the same as Wilder....no different, and your "Americans" comment is just plain stupid. I like Brook, and wish Khan wouldn't avoid him like the plague so we can see at least who is the best between the two. I hope Brook stays at welter long enough to at least fight Spence, but have my doubts.

I said Americans because it is your best weight, Brook has certainly proved himself more than Spence by going over to America and taking the title from Porter. Hopefully Spence earns the right to come and take the title off Brook.

Why does Spence get a new thread every week about how everyone will duck him and that's he's a beast? Yeh he's good but come on can we at least keep it to 1 a month please.

errol is the up and coming no hold bars champion of the weight, brook , Thurman porter Garcia. mucked about not making big fights, to late new kid on the block who will beat all of them