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How about 20 years?

It annoys me the way every jerk and his brother starts new vanity threads.

x2x wrote:How about 20 years?

It annoys me the way every jerk and his brother starts new vanity threads.

Next thread will be

"Who will start tge next Povetkin Wilder thread"

I agree everyone wants their own thread on the same topic. Combine them

x2x wrote:How about 20 years?

It annoys me the way every jerk and his brother starts new vanity threads.

Bit harsh?

The fight is "postponed". If Povetkin was suspended, it would be cancelled.

runner_phob wrote:The fight is "postponed". If Povetkin was suspended, it would be cancelled.

Ah, sorry but they call it whatever they want it's not happening. And Povetkin will be facing his suspension these things don't happen overnight.

Honestly at his age and with a probable one year layoff coming he could be effectively finished at this level. Once he is off the dope and has a year to sit around and get fat he may never really be a legitimate threat again.

Suspended.

This clown should be banned for life.

The Olympic committee is considering banning Russians from the Rio games because of the massive use of PEDs that has recently been disclosed.

Maybe boxing ought to closely examine all the Russians currently competing and winning titles and consider barring them from the sport.

Do you think it might explain why guys like Kovalev and even the Khazaki Golovkin are suddenly doing well in the ring?

Bernard Hopkins said after his battle with Kovalev that it felt like he was a middleweight and the Russian was a cruiser. Gee, I wonder why.

They've caught Povetkin and the girl tennis player Sharapova. Both using the same stuff.

How many other Russian athletes are dirty? They're dangerously tainting the sport of boxing.

U.S. state athletic commissions should seriously consider banning Russian athletes and those from neighboring countries from competing in American rings until it can be demonstrated that they're 1000% clean.

Unlikely. Russia and the Soviet bloc have a lengthy history of blatantly cheating in athletics.

Mark my words. Povetkin and little Miss Sharapova (she of the sinewy biceps and the oversized shoulders) are only the tip of the iceberg.

dickbelden wrote:*

It doesn't matter, his boxing career is finished. He is 36-37 yo now, his reputation outside Russia is ruined, no ABC organization will put him in top15.

Maybe, as part of pro-Putin propaganda and "patriotic" hooplas, he'll beat some elderly western boxers in Russia...but commercially - he is out

At first I wanted him to be banned for life, just like any drugscheater. Somehow it's starting to get more and more obvious that Vada doesn't have a clue about what they are doing. They don't know how long it takes before the stuff they found in Povetkin's body is out of it, they can't even proof the stuf has any positive influence at all. It seems like Vada only offers random trashwork. Maybe Vada is the one that should be banned, because they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

Either way, congratz to Wilder who managed to find a good excuse after all anyway to sneak out because of something they knew ages ago. They simply looked back at his old wees and knew already back then that he had no choice but failing for the rest of his life because he did something that simply was allowed.

asdfjkl wrote:At first I wanted him to be banned for life, just like any drugscheater. Somehow it's starting to get more and more obvious that Vada doesn't have a clue about what they are doing. They don't know how long it takes before the stuff they found in Povetkin's body is out of it, they can't even proof the stuf has any positive influence at all. It seems like Vada only offers random trashwork. Maybe Vada is the one that should be banned, because they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

Either way, congratz to Wilder who managed to find a good excuse after all anyway to sneak out because of something they knew ages ago. They simply looked back at his old wees and knew already back then that he had no choice but failing for the rest of his life because he did something that simply was allowed.

I wish you were right, but they tested him 3 times in April and it was negative, then they tested him a week or so later and found meldonium. Unless their negative tests were inaccurate, it means that Povetkin took meldonium between their tests. You are correct that meldonium doesn't help much if it helps at all.

runner_phob wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:At first I wanted him to be banned for life, just like any drugscheater. Somehow it's starting to get more and more obvious that Vada doesn't have a clue about what they are doing. They don't know how long it takes before the stuff they found in Povetkin's body is out of it, they can't even proof the stuf has any positive influence at all. It seems like Vada only offers random trashwork. Maybe Vada is the one that should be banned, because they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

Either way, congratz to Wilder who managed to find a good excuse after all anyway to sneak out because of something they knew ages ago. They simply looked back at his old wees and knew already back then that he had no choice but failing for the rest of his life because he did something that simply was allowed.

I wish you were right, but they tested him 3 times in April and it was negative, then they tested him a week or so later and found meldonium. Unless their negative tests were inaccurate, it means that Povetkin took meldonium between their tests. You are correct that meldonium doesn't help much if it helps at all.

As far as I know, the values are so low, that the test is still negative at this moment. But since I hear nobody talking about that I now start to doubt as well.

Boxingtruth wrote:Don't think it matters how long.. He is 37 now. And nowhere near a big enough guy to cause anyone problems at near 40.. It was a lame way to cop out against the spectacular knockout he pretty much knew was coming his way..

Wilder obviously thought that knockout was coming his way, as he immediately rushed home instead of waiting for a final resolution and possibly a new date.

asdfjkl wrote:

runner_phob wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:At first I wanted him to be banned for life, just like any drugscheater. Somehow it's starting to get more and more obvious that Vada doesn't have a clue about what they are doing. They don't know how long it takes before the stuff they found in Povetkin's body is out of it, they can't even proof the stuf has any positive influence at all. It seems like Vada only offers random trashwork. Maybe Vada is the one that should be banned, because they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

Either way, congratz to Wilder who managed to find a good excuse after all anyway to sneak out because of something they knew ages ago. They simply looked back at his old wees and knew already back then that he had no choice but failing for the rest of his life because he did something that simply was allowed.

I wish you were right, but they tested him 3 times in April and it was negative, then they tested him a week or so later and found meldonium. Unless their negative tests were inaccurate, it means that Povetkin took meldonium between their tests. You are correct that meldonium doesn't help much if it helps at all.

As far as I know, the values are so low, that the test is still negative at this moment. But since I hear nobody talking about that I now start to doubt as well.

The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

runner_phob wrote:
I wish you were right, but they tested him 3 times in April and it was negative, then they tested him a week or so later and found meldonium. Unless their negative tests were inaccurate, it means that Povetkin took meldonium between their tests. You are correct that meldonium doesn't help much if it helps at all.

As far as I know, the values are so low, that the test is still negative at this moment. But since I hear nobody talking about that I now start to doubt as well.

The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: As far as I know, the values are so low, that the test is still negative at this moment. But since I hear nobody talking about that I now start to doubt as well.

The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

Are you that stupid? If it's negative why did WADA stop the fight? Why is there no fight? Should I listen to his promoter or shall I listen to THERE IS NO FIGHT?

runner_phob wrote:

Boxingtruth wrote:Don't think it matters how long.. He is 37 now. And nowhere near a big enough guy to cause anyone problems at near 40.. It was a lame way to cop out against the spectacular knockout he pretty much knew was coming his way..

Wilder obviously thought that knockout was coming his way, as he immediately rushed home instead of waiting for a final resolution and possibly a new date.

The only resolution possible is at least one year suspension of Povetkin. No reason for Wilder's team (a lot of people actually) to hire training premises and hotel rooms in England waiting for miracle happening to Povetkin. I'm sure they consulted with WBC before they went back home.

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

Are you that stupid? If it's negative why did WADA stop the fight? Why is there no fight? Should I listen to his promoter or shall I listen to THERE IS NO FIGHT?

Never listen to boxing promoter they are sleazy salesmen

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: As far as I know, the values are so low, that the test is still negative at this moment. But since I hear nobody talking about that I now start to doubt as well.

The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

Because boxing promoters are sleazy salesmen

bigman1968 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

Because boxing promoters are sleazy salesmen

I just don't listen to little kids. Like all the posters here, we shouldn't have to put up with little kids (asdfjkl). Age restriction should be in force.

Anyway, Wilder is a pu$$y.

Boxingtruth wrote:

runner_phob wrote:

Boxingtruth wrote:Don't think it matters how long.. He is 37 now. And nowhere near a big enough guy to cause anyone problems at near 40.. It was a lame way to cop out against the spectacular knockout he pretty much knew was coming his way..

Wilder obviously thought that knockout was coming his way, as he immediately rushed home instead of waiting for a final resolution and possibly a new date.

I doubt very much he "rushed home straight away".. And more to the point.. How many boxers do you know that once found guilty of using illegal substance's have been allowed to fight?? The answer is none.. So should he have hung around in freezing cold Russia. Everyone's favourite holiday destination.. Notoriously racist nutcase country.. Or go home to see his wife and daughter of whom he probably hasn't seen for a while?? You do the math...

How about Vargas just a couple weeks ago ?

Boxingtruth wrote:Was he found guilty of using a steroid a week before the world title fight?

No, he wasn't, they found a minimal trace of something that could be compared to an asparine, but then the Russian version of it that all of a sudden became illegal since 1 januari 2016 and stays in your body for probably up to a year, especially when you're not a small kid. Vada themself don't even know accurately how long it stays in your body. Either way, a cup of coffee probably gives a boxer a better result in a fight and despite there are still some traces left of it in Povetkin's body (traces that will remain there for at least another few months), the number was so low that it's about 15 times lower as the number Wada allows.

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: The test came back POSITIVE, that's why there's no fight geez.

A year minimum. Drug cheats got to pay. 2 years is too long.

Yea, but then why does his promotor still openly says the test is negative?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/05/pov ... ll-happen/

Are you that stupid? If it's negative why did WADA stop the fight? Why is there no fight? Should I listen to his promoter or shall I listen to THERE IS NO FIGHT?

WADA didn't stop the fight, it's Wilder and his team who stopped the fight because they chickened out with another weak excuse, that's also the reason why Povetkin his team will bring them to court.

WADA wouldn't even catch Povetkin, as they don't catch anybody. Only random testing does.