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Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 12:54
by Taansend
Sixty today.

Sixty!!!!!

My favourite non UK fighter. He was amazing.

Happy Birthday Champ

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 12:56
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Hated HATED Sugar Ray Leonard...

But yeah, happy birfdee to the showboating prick! :evil:

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 13:03
by Stuarty
Doesn't look half bad for 60!!

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 13:06
by Terminator666
I liked him up to the point he made lalonde fight at 168 for two seperate weight division titles in one fight.
In fact I think that was pretty much the start of the same shambles we still have today

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 14:07
by bigjack
Terminator666 wrote:I liked him up to the point he made lalonde fight at 168 for two seperate weight division titles in one fight.
In fact I think that was pretty much the start of the same shambles we still have today

I was at that fight and didn't like the idea either just wanted to see a legend fight :bow: he wasn't to every ones taste but could certainly fight and had a great chin.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 14:11
by Syntax Error
Stuarty30 wrote:Doesn't look half bad for 60!!
He does look good for his age, although 60 is no longer old these days.

I don't know if he's had any 'help', but if he hasn't, good on him.

Happy Birthday, Champ. :salut:

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 15:09
by Monte Fisto
Happy Birthday Ledge!!

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 17 May 2016, 15:35
by Scoops
Before my time but when I was growing up and talking up a fighter my dad would always say something along the lines of 'of course, he's nothing like as good as Sugar Ray Leonard was' :doh:

Happy birthday!

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 09:17
by Taansend
Scoops wrote:Before my time but when I was growing up and talking up a fighter my dad would always say something along the lines of 'of course, he's nothing like as good as Sugar Ray Leonard was' :doh:

Happy birthday!
You should listen to your dad. He's right.....

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 10:10
by Scoops
Taansend wrote:
Scoops wrote:Before my time but when I was growing up and talking up a fighter my dad would always say something along the lines of 'of course, he's nothing like as good as Sugar Ray Leonard was' :doh:

Happy birthday!
You should listen to your dad. He's right.....
I've watched several of his fights on YouTube so have seen for myself since then.

Four Kings by George Kimball is a great book on that era too.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 10:11
by keithmoonhangover
Taansend wrote:
Scoops wrote:Before my time but when I was growing up and talking up a fighter my dad would always say something along the lines of 'of course, he's nothing like as good as Sugar Ray Leonard was' :doh:

Happy birthday!
You should listen to your dad. He's right.....
Yep, pops is right. :TU:

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 10:18
by tobyh5
SRL was one of my fav fighters growing up, that was my era as a kid. But I have since been learning that he is quite disliked by boxing people which kinda shocked me

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 10:23
by Taansend
tobyh5 wrote:SRL was one of my fav fighters growing up, that was my era as a kid. But I have since been learning that he is quite disliked by boxing people which kinda shocked me
Some people just don't like flashy boxers, which is fair enough.

Also, as mentioned above, he was fond of using out of the ring shenanigans to get an edge.

And lots of people think he lost against Hagler. I had him winning a close bout but it was one of those fights that could have gone either way.

Personally I love the bloke. In & out of the ring. I'm just gutted I didn't get to meet him when I used to live fairly close to the bloke. Since then I've tweeted him a few times & he's responded. I am a stalker.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 11:26
by Anzi
Sugar Ray Leonard was the most complete fighter, ever, speed, power, skill, chin, intelligence, fast feet, personality, heart, stamina, the full package, 5 weight world champion, Olympic champion, he came back from a 3 year lay-off and a detached retina to move up in weight and beat the great Hagler, out of the fabulous 4, of him , Hagler, Hearns, Duran, he was the only one to have beat the other 3. Very fan friendly and approachable, looked after his money and still in great shape.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 13:11
by magwitch
Stuarty30 wrote:Doesn't look half bad for 60!!
Good point. Never saw him box in his time. Think I’d love him if he came round now.
Sugar Ray turned pro early because his Dad was going blind and gold medals weren’t going to help him to see. I know that much. One man’s showboating prick is another man’s legend of boxing, imho :box:

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 13:12
by magwitch
Was he 3 years out the ring when he took on and extended MM Hagler over 15?......surely that’s unheard of!

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 13:26
by Stuarty
Anzi wrote:Sugar Ray Leonard was the most complete fighter, ever, speed, power, skill, chin, intelligence, fast feet, personality, heart, stamina, the full package, 5 weight world champion, Olympic champion, he came back from a 3 year lay-off and a detached retina to move up in weight and beat the great Hagler, out of the fabulous 4, of him , Hagler, Hearns, Duran, he was the only one to have beat the other 3. Very fan friendly and approachable, looked after his money and still in great shape.
Well put :TU:

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 13:41
by WelshDevil
Happy 60th to the Great Sugar Ray Leonard. Looks in great condition. Tremendous all-round boxer. One of the best I've ever seen.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 14:19
by Bodyshot3
Currently busy flogging Skechers shoes on UK telly.....but keeping good company as Ringo Starr is on the same payroll.
Thankfully, not ready for a pair myself just yet and my Asics still get good use.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 14:53
by bripez
Stuarty30 wrote:
Anzi wrote:Sugar Ray Leonard was the most complete fighter, ever, speed, power, skill, chin, intelligence, fast feet, personality, heart, stamina, the full package, 5 weight world champion, Olympic champion, he came back from a 3 year lay-off and a detached retina to move up in weight and beat the great Hagler, out of the fabulous 4, of him , Hagler, Hearns, Duran, he was the only one to have beat the other 3. Very fan friendly and approachable, looked after his money and still in great shape.
Well put :TU:
Sums it up for me too :salut:

I saw the Sketchers ad for the first time the other day and wasn't sure if it was really him !

I also read the other day that Tessa Sanderson is 60 (and is looking well) - maybe I am getting old !

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 14:59
by jonp
magwitch wrote:Was he 3 years out the ring when he took on and extended MM Hagler over 15?......surely that’s unheard of!
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Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 15:06
by bigjack
jonp wrote:
magwitch wrote:Was he 3 years out the ring when he took on and extended MM Hagler over 15?......surely that’s unheard of!
12

I believe without checking that he had 1 fight in 5 years against Kevin Howard and looked bad being floored along the way,then he retired again saying he just didn't have it anymore,but after watching Hagler struggle with John Mugabi decided to come back,the rest is history,by the way i have his autograph which he gave me in Vegas in 1988.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 15:22
by Anzi
bigjack wrote:
jonp wrote:
magwitch wrote:Was he 3 years out the ring when he took on and extended MM Hagler over 15?......surely that’s unheard of!
12

I believe without checking that he had 1 fight in 5 years against Kevin Howard and looked bad being floored along the way,then he retired again saying he just didn't have it anymore,but after watching Hagler struggle with John Mugabi decided to come back,the rest is history,by the way i have his autograph which he gave me in Vegas in 1988.
Yes you are right, Hagler struggled before against fighters early on, but always comes on strong and weighs them down, they thought he would do the same against leonard, but Leonard is made of much sterner stuff. Leonard loves the fans, always gives them time, saw him once play fighting at the NEC with a man in a wheel chair, spent a lot of time with him laughing and joking, great guy.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 16:17
by MightyWarrior
Yes the greatest of my time, and put it this way him and the the original Sugar Ray would almost have been 50-50 - he was that good.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard

Posted: 18 May 2016, 17:21
by Anzi
MightyWarrior wrote:Yes the greatest of my time, and put it this way him and the the original Sugar Ray would almost have been 50-50 - he was that good.
what a fight ?