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In his arsenal that he doesn't really press the gas! He flurries then backs off! Remember how Roy & Floyd in their day would box but would also

press the gas going for the finish? This is what's hurting Trout! He looked good but he doesn't attempt to finish fights!

He was walking a tightrope all night last night against Jermall Charlo. It was all he could do to put together the effective offense he did without getting knocked out.

I had the fight scored a draw personally. I have no issue with the decision in Charlo's favor, but it was a competitive close fight, and I'd still consider Trout a Top 5 or 6 Jr. Middleweight contender.

bnovelist wrote: Remember how Roy & Floyd in their day would box but would also press the gas going for the finish?

NO I don't remember ANYTHING like that.. Floyd hasn't scored a KO for years and is a very weak hitter.. Roy let weak and super slow Julio Gonzalez and technically challenged David Telesco go the distance... Golovkin, Kovalev, and Joshua are GREAT finishers. Glen Johnson went for the finish against Roy Jones and did a great job beating him up and KTFO of him... Glen was older than Roy, but that was his best and most impressive fight.

Trout is definitely not a finisher. He doesn't have the toughness, strength, power, and toughness to trade shots. He'd be like Amir Con trying to trade with Danny Garcia. I didn't think Jermall was a real good matchup for Trout because he's too strong and tough for him. That was a clear win for Jermall. He landed more punches with more power and accuracy. He also carried the fight 75% of the time. I don't see how you get a draw out of that!!!

I meant to say.. "Trout is definitely not a finisher. He doesn't have the toughness, strength, power, and accuracy to trade shots."

Trout does as good as he can with what he's got. He's still a solid contender.

gilgamesh wrote:Trout does as good as he can with what he's got. He's still a solid contender.

Damned right he is...but as deep as the division is right now, he's not championship caliber at 154. He was at one point for sure.

Trout would have an easier time with Jermell... He'd still be the underdog but that is possible - if Jermell fights like he did last night.

Liam Smith should try and get Trout over next then we'll see how good he is. This next guy he's fighting is a joke. Trout is a good solid test for him.

gilgamesh wrote:He was walking a tightrope all night last night against Jermall Charlo. It was all he could do to put together the effective offense he did without getting knocked out.

I had the fight scored a draw personally. I have no issue with the decision in Charlo's favor, but it was a competitive close fight, and I'd still consider Trout a Top 5 or 6 Jr. Middleweight contender.

I also had it a draw.

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I havent seen anything from Smith that leads me to believe he can beat Trout.

Kalan wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Trout does as good as he can with what he's got. He's still a solid contender.

Damned right he is...but as deep as the division is right now, he's not championship caliber at 154. He was at one point for sure.

I think he's as good as he's ever been. His best win is Miguel Cotto, and he'd still beat Cotto in a rematch.

gilgamesh wrote:[ think he's as good as he's ever been. His best win is Miguel Cotto, and he'd still beat Cotto in a rematch.

Trout is BETTER than ever right now... He worked extremely hard to bring his game up after the Lara fight, where he got wiped out completely... He's succeeded in improving his skills, but the division is a lot tougher right now than when he was defending his championship versus the little midget Cotto... Trout at 171 was massively bigger and taller than Cotto in the ring - just like Canelo was.. That was reversed with Jermall Charlo.

I had like 8-4 or 7-5 for Charlo.
Trout looked really good.

Trout should run for Liam Smith.
It could set up a Cotto rematch for the belt.

With that $, Trout should be good.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I had like 8-4 or 7-5 for Charlo. Trout looked really good

I would say Trout looked good... Better than he's looked before and he came very ready. If he looked "really" good he'd have won it.

Kalan wrote:

bnovelist wrote: Remember how Roy & Floyd in their day would box but would also press the gas going for the finish?

NO I don't remember ANYTHING like that.. Floyd hasn't scored a KO for years and is a very weak hitter.. Roy let weak and super slow Julio Gonzalez and technically challenged David Telesco go the distance... Golovkin, Kovalev, and Joshua are GREAT finishers. Glen Johnson went for the finish against Roy Jones and did a great job beating him up and KTFO of him... Glen was older than Roy, but that was his best and most impressive fight.

Trout is definitely not a finisher. He doesn't have the toughness, strength, power, and toughness to trade shots. He'd be like Amir Con trying to trade with Danny Garcia. I didn't think Jermall was a real good matchup for Trout because he's too strong and tough for him. That was a clear win for Jermall. He landed more punches with more power and accuracy. He also carried the fight 75% of the time. I don't see how you get a draw out of that!!!

I didn't see the Julio Gonzalez vs. Roy Jones fight, but you can't fault Roy's punching/finishing power vs. Telesco.

Telesco was on 100% defense -- he wouldn't engage.