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To carry on with this ridiculous basketball players are also champion boxers as brought to our attention from Kalan. I thought I'd go with an interesting match up with both athletes in their prime. To me personally, it would have been another knockout to Tyson by body rips.

Kalan (Kalown) can you please tell us why Shaq would...(geez my iPad won't type beat) beet Tyson.

Because he was taller. A taller guy never loses to a shorter guy according to Kalan. Even though there's mountains of evidence to show that's not the case.

gilgamesh wrote:Because he was taller. A taller guy never loses to a shorter guy according to Kalan. Even though there's mountains of evidence to show that's not the case.

Yep he's got no idea. Clearly hasn't fought cos that's the way you think about advantages in boxing from a armchair perspective. Not saying you had to box to be in this forum but to think you know and then to belittle the sport and it's heroes is disrespectful. Also he's quite hilarious with some of his posts.

You're probably just a basketball player aren't you Kalown? I know youve read this thread.

Mike was one of the highest skilled boxing teens in the world. I don't know what Shaq looked like when he was 20, but there's a good chance Mike would win a boxing match. A basketballmatch somehow...

Ridiculous Crap. Did O'Neal ever WANT to fight MIke Tyson??? NO!!! Shaq and Mike were friends.. Wilt and Ali were NOT friends

Did O'Neal ever pull down 55 rebounds in a game to set the all-time NBA record??? outrebounding the entire other team???? Did O'Neal ever score 100 points in a single game to set the all-time NBA record??? Did O'Neal ever play more minutes then every other player in the NBA for many straight seasons??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in assists??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in field goal percentage as Chamberlain did MANY TIMES??? Does O'Neal hold the NBA record for most foul shots scored in a game??? Was Shaq super a super fast guy who often beat opposing guards down the court??? O'Neal couldn't come close to doing ANY of that and Wilt Chamberlain did ALL of that.. Plus.. Wilt Chamberlain never fouled out of an NBA game like Shaq did multiple times. Wilt had a lot of finesse and Shaq had very little.

Just because somebody is 7' tall doesn't mean that you're as good as Wilt Chamberlain. There are approximately 70 men in America over 7 feet tall who are of NBA Basketball playing age. An unbelievable high 17% of them are good enough athletes to play in the NBA. But most of the 7 footers who make it to the NBA are pretty miserable scorers, passers, or assist men. They simply lack the coordination. They're mainly bench players who are used for shot blocking, rebounding or other situations. If you're over 7' tall and you can play at all you're a pretty damned valuable guy. Less than .07% of men between 6'6" and 6'8" get to even sit on the bench during an NBA game and that's one out of 1429 men that tall. So you see how valuable 5 to 7 more inches is. Wilt Chamberlain is the most unusual athletic specimen in sports history ... and that's why Muhammad Ali TALKED big about fighting Wilt, but refused to sign the painstakingly negotiated contract that lawyers spent a lot of time putting together, to FIGHT Wilt. Ali chickened out in the end.

Kalan wrote:Ridiculous Crap. Did O'Neal ever WANT to fight MIke Tyson??? NO!!! Shaq and Mike were friends.. Wilt and Ali were NOT friends

Did O'Neal ever pull down 55 rebounds in a game to set the all-time NBA record??? outrebounding the entire other team???? Did O'Neal ever score 100 points in a single game to set the all-time NBA record??? Did O'Neal ever play more minutes then every other player in the NBA for many straight seasons??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in assists??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in field goal percentage as Chamberlain did MANY TIMES??? Does O'Neal hold the NBA record for most foul shots scored in a game??? Was Shaq super a super fast guy who often beat opposing guards down the court??? O'Neal couldn't come close to doing ANY of that and Wilt Chamberlain did ALL of that.. Plus.. Wilt Chamberlain never fouled out of an NBA game like Shaq did multiple times. Wilt had a lot of finesse and Shaq had very little.

Just because somebody is 7' tall doesn't mean that you're as good as Wilt Chamberlain. There are approximately 70 men in America over 7 feet tall who are of NBA Basketball playing age. An unbelievable high 17% of them are good enough athletes to play in the NBA. But most of the 7 footers who make it to the NBA are pretty miserable scorers, passers, or assist men. They simply lack the coordination. They're mainly bench players who are used for shot blocking, rebounding or other situations. If you're over 7' tall and you can play at all you're a pretty damned valuable guy. Less than .07% of men between 6'6" and 6'8" get to even sit on the bench during an NBA game and that's one out of 1429 men that tall. So you see how valuable 5 to 7 more inches is. Wilt Chamberlain is the most unusual athletic specimen in sports history ... and that's why Muhammad Ali TALKED big about fighting Wilt, but refused to sign the painstakingly negotiated contract that lawyers spent a lot of time putting together, to FIGHT Wilt. Ali chickened out in the end.

Write more please lol

asdfjkl wrote:Mike was one of the highest skilled boxing teens in the world. I don't know what Shaq looked like when he was 20, but there's a good chance Mike would win a boxing match. A basketballmatch somehow

Buster Douglas was a towering 6'4".... About 2% of American men are that tall meaning millions of men are that tall... However, Douglas made Mike Tyson look like a midget AND he beat the living life out of him... No small wonder... Although Douglas was beaten often he was bigger, taller, faster, stronger, smarter (not for every fight), more skilled, and just beat the bejabbers out of Iron MIke... Chamberlain was 9" taller and 60 pounds heavier than Buster Douglas.. Plus Wilt was faster, stronger, smarter, and a much better athlete than Buster ... who busted Mike's butt.

Kalan wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Mike was one of the highest skilled boxing teens in the world. I don't know what Shaq looked like when he was 20, but there's a good chance Mike would win a boxing match. A basketballmatch somehow

Buster Douglas was a towering 6'4".... About 2% of American men are that tall meaning millions of men are that tall... However, Douglas made Mike Tyson look like a midget AND he beat the living life out of him... No small wonder... Although Douglas was beaten often he was bigger, taller, faster, stronger, smarter (not for every fight), more skilled, and just beat the bejabbers out of Iron MIke... Chamberlain was 9" taller and 60 pounds heavier than Buster Douglas.. Plus Wilt was faster, stronger, smarter, and a much better athlete than Buster ... who busted Mike's butt.

Mike Jameson was 6'5. An inch taller than Buster Douglas. Mike Tyson kicked his ass.

Julius Long is 7'1. He's taller than every man he ever faces, but he has 17 wins and 20 losses.

Why it's almost like being the taller man isn't a guarantee of victory in a Boxing match, but that would just be silly right Kalan?

Kalan wrote:Ridiculous Crap. Did O'Neal ever WANT to fight MIke Tyson??? NO!!! Shaq and Mike were friends.. Wilt and Ali were NOT friends

Did O'Neal ever pull down 55 rebounds in a game to set the all-time NBA record??? outrebounding the entire other team???? Did O'Neal ever score 100 points in a single game to set the all-time NBA record??? Did O'Neal ever play more minutes then every other player in the NBA for many straight seasons??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in assists??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in field goal percentage as Chamberlain did MANY TIMES??? Does O'Neal hold the NBA record for most foul shots scored in a game??? Was Shaq super a super fast guy who often beat opposing guards down the court??? O'Neal couldn't come close to doing ANY of that and Wilt Chamberlain did ALL of that.. Plus.. Wilt Chamberlain never fouled out of an NBA game like Shaq did multiple times. Wilt had a lot of finesse and Shaq had very little.

Just because somebody is 7' tall doesn't mean that you're as good as Wilt Chamberlain. There are approximately 70 men in America over 7 feet tall who are of NBA Basketball playing age. An unbelievable high 17% of them are good enough athletes to play in the NBA. But most of the 7 footers who make it to the NBA are pretty miserable scorers, passers, or assist men. They simply lack the coordination. They're mainly bench players who are used for shot blocking, rebounding or other situations. If you're over 7' tall and you can play at all you're a pretty damned valuable guy. Less than .07% of men between 6'6" and 6'8" get to even sit on the bench during an NBA game and that's one out of 1429 men that tall. So you see how valuable 5 to 7 more inches is. Wilt Chamberlain is the most unusual athletic specimen in sports history ... and that's why Muhammad Ali TALKED big about fighting Wilt, but refused to sign the painstakingly negotiated contract that lawyers spent a lot of time putting together, to FIGHT Wilt. Ali chickened out in the end.

Two points.

It wasn't Ali who chickened out. At least not according to the promoter of the fight Arum. You need to check your facts.
Chamberlain had little or no boxing experience, so what leads you to believe he would have one. Being good at basketball and and an amazing specimen doesn't make you a great fighter.

You obviously have a bizzare obsession with Chamberlain.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Kalan wrote:Ridiculous Crap. Did O'Neal ever WANT to fight MIke Tyson??? NO!!! Shaq and Mike were friends.. Wilt and Ali were NOT friends

Did O'Neal ever pull down 55 rebounds in a game to set the all-time NBA record??? outrebounding the entire other team???? Did O'Neal ever score 100 points in a single game to set the all-time NBA record??? Did O'Neal ever play more minutes then every other player in the NBA for many straight seasons??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in assists??? Did O'Neal ever lead the NBA in field goal percentage as Chamberlain did MANY TIMES??? Does O'Neal hold the NBA record for most foul shots scored in a game??? Was Shaq super a super fast guy who often beat opposing guards down the court??? O'Neal couldn't come close to doing ANY of that and Wilt Chamberlain did ALL of that.. Plus.. Wilt Chamberlain never fouled out of an NBA game like Shaq did multiple times. Wilt had a lot of finesse and Shaq had very little.

Just because somebody is 7' tall doesn't mean that you're as good as Wilt Chamberlain. There are approximately 70 men in America over 7 feet tall who are of NBA Basketball playing age. An unbelievable high 17% of them are good enough athletes to play in the NBA. But most of the 7 footers who make it to the NBA are pretty miserable scorers, passers, or assist men. They simply lack the coordination. They're mainly bench players who are used for shot blocking, rebounding or other situations. If you're over 7' tall and you can play at all you're a pretty damned valuable guy. Less than .07% of men between 6'6" and 6'8" get to even sit on the bench during an NBA game and that's one out of 1429 men that tall. So you see how valuable 5 to 7 more inches is. Wilt Chamberlain is the most unusual athletic specimen in sports history ... and that's why Muhammad Ali TALKED big about fighting Wilt, but refused to sign the painstakingly negotiated contract that lawyers spent a lot of time putting together, to FIGHT Wilt. Ali chickened out in the end.

Two points.

It wasn't Ali who chickened out. At least not according to the promoter of the fight Arum. You need to check your facts.
Chamberlain had little or no boxing experience, so what leads you to believe he would have one. Being good at basketball and and an amazing specimen doesn't make you a great fighter.

You obviously have a bizzare obsession with Chamberlain.

Yeah he's swinging from Wilt's nuts pretty hard. I don't think I've ever seen more ridiculous claim on a Boxing forum than Wilt Chamberlain could beat Ali in a Boxing match. It's asinine.

gilgamesh wrote:

Kalan wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Mike was one of the highest skilled boxing teens in the world. I don't know what Shaq looked like when he was 20, but there's a good chance Mike would win a boxing match. A basketballmatch somehow

Buster Douglas was a towering 6'4".... About 2% of American men are that tall meaning millions of men are that tall... However, Douglas made Mike Tyson look like a midget AND he beat the living life out of him... No small wonder... Although Douglas was beaten often he was bigger, taller, faster, stronger, smarter (not for every fight), more skilled, and just beat the bejabbers out of Iron MIke... Chamberlain was 9" taller and 60 pounds heavier than Buster Douglas.. Plus Wilt was faster, stronger, smarter, and a much better athlete than Buster ... who busted Mike's butt.

Mike Jameson was 6'5. An inch taller than Buster Douglas. Mike Tyson kicked his ass.

Julius Long is 7'1. He's taller than every man he ever faces, but he has 17 wins and 20 losses.

Why it's almost like being the taller man isn't a guarantee of victory in a Boxing match, but that would just be silly right Kalan?

LIKE I SAID BEFORE!!!! .... MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME!!!! .... BEING TALL DOESN'T EQUAL BEING GOOD!!!!

Over 83% of men 7' tall can't make it in the NBA even to warm the end of the bench... They're damned near as uncoordinated as Julius Long... Mike Jameson is one of the WORST athletes in the HISTORY of the PLANET!!! ... Wilt Chamberlain is one of the BEST athletes of ALL TIME!!!

On the OTHER hand.... A good (but not outstanding) athlete: BUSTER DOUGLAS... was too BIG, TALL, FAST STRONG, SMART, AND SKILLED for Tyson... That's not one single athletic quality if you can count on your fingers... That's SIX (6) of them... Wilt had a lot more qualities than that.

Kalan wrote:On the OTHER hand.... A good (but not outstanding) athlete: BUSTER DOUGLAS... was too BIG, TALL, FAST STRONG, SMART, AND SKILLED for Tyson... That's not one single athletic quality if you can count on your fingers... That's SIX (6) of them... Wilt had a lot more qualities than that.

Wilt also had no boxing pedigree whatsoever. Unlike Buster who had been training since childhood in the sport.

Roy Jones was an amazing athlete, doesn't mean he'd have made the NBA if he had decided to quit boxing in his prime.

You need to take your meds and go sit in a dark room.

Even Chamberlain himself admitted he'd have had at best a 1 in 10 chance of winning. Effectively a puncher's chance.

Given that Liston, Foreman and Frazier weren't able to flatten him with one shot, it's pretty much nailed on that Chamberlain wouldn't have either, given that he would never have had the kind of punchpower they had, as he'd not had decades of experience in the sport.

gilgamesh wrote:Being good at basketball and and an amazing specimen doesn't make you a great fighter

Wilt wasn't "good" at basketball. He was GREAT.. He was one of the greatest players of all time, if not the greatest. He still holds more NBA records than any other player in history.. You know I'm not sure Bob Cousy would be a good boxer even though he was a great basketball player. Obviously Cousy's speed, reflexes, vision, and coordination with fabulous, and his passing strength, velocity, and accuracy were breathtaking, but I'm not so sure how physically tough Cousy was. He sure didn't look very tough to me, and he wasn't very big or strong looking. I wouldn't rule out how good he could be, but he didn't look like he had outstanding potential as a boxer in my eyes.. So yes, just because somebody is an ATG basketball player doesn't automatically make them a good boxing prospect.. Cus D'Amato would have little interest in Cousy.. But D'Amato was SUPER excited about Wilt Chamberlain and so were Floyd Patterson, Ernie Terrell, and other boxers.. The only problem is Ali intelligently refused to put himself in a no-win situation where he was certain to get iced.. Ali was the skunk who came to the party at the contract signing -- where Ali wanted no media to be present.. He insisted, "Lets not do the contract signing in front of the world. Let's spring the news on them all at once so it has more impact."

That almost made sense.. Except that Ali didn't want the media there for another reason... He wasn't going to sign.

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:Even Chamberlain himself admitted he'd have had at best a 1 in 10 chance of winning. Effectively a puncher's chance.
Given that Liston, Foreman and Frazier weren't able to flatten him with one shot, it's pretty much nailed on that Chamberlain wouldn't have either, given that he would never have had the kind of punchpower they had, as he'd not had decades of experience in the sport.

Wilt never said that.. He said he'd knock Ali out cold.. He wasn't impressed with Ali's punching power vs super easy to hit Chuvalo.

It doesn't take decades of experience in the sport to develop punching power. That's nuts. You're either gifted with punching power or you don't have it.. Wilt sent opponents flying when he shoved them and he flattened a couple with a quick shot. Liston weighed only 214 for Patterson. He would be a tiny Heavyweight today and he was an old man. Foreman was 6'3" X 217 for his best fight, murdering Frazier. That's still very small by today's standards also, but way too big and powerful for fat little Joe Frazier. Smokin' Joe was only 5'11 X 205 when he beat Ali but overweight for Foreman ... So those guys were all very small and weak compared to Chamberlain. You can't make a comparison. Foreman was easy to reach with a jab.. Even Jimmy Young jabbed the crap out of Foreman so that nullified his power... Chamberlain would be smashing shots down on Ali from a 10" height advantage and 23" reach advantage that Foreman didn't enjoy. With an 80 pound weight advantage he would destroy Ali... AND AGAIN!!! If it were just massive height, weight, and reach advantages it wouldn't mean that much.. Most 7' tall men couldn't make it in the NBA to save their asses.. Chamberlain was a super athlete.

Wilt Chamberlain was 7'1" X 290 with a 101" reach. His jab was like a sledge hammer and his hands were more than twice as big as Ali's. His speed and power would just overwhelm Ali. He lead the league in scoring and field goal accuracy for many years in a row and was the greatest rebounder of all time by a million miles... No wonder Ali refused to sign the negotiated contract.

Kalan wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Even Chamberlain himself admitted he'd have had at best a 1 in 10 chance of winning. Effectively a puncher's chance.
Given that Liston, Foreman and Frazier weren't able to flatten him with one shot, it's pretty much nailed on that Chamberlain wouldn't have either, given that he would never have had the kind of punchpower they had, as he'd not had decades of experience in the sport.

Wilt never said that.. He said he'd knock Ali out cold.. He wasn't impressed with Ali's punching power vs super easy to hit Chuvalo.

It doesn't take decades of experience in the sport to develop punching power. That's nuts. You're either gifted with punching power or you don't have it.. Wilt sent opponents flying when he shoved them and he flattened a couple with a quick shot. Liston weighed only 214 for Patterson. He would be a tiny Heavyweight today and he was an old man. Foreman was 6'3" X 217 for his best fight, murdering Frazier. That's still very small by today's standards also, but way too big and powerful for fat little Joe Frazier. Smokin' Joe was only 5'11 X 205 when he beat Ali but overweight for Foreman ... So those guys were all very small and weak compared to Chamberlain. You can't make a comparison. Foreman was easy to reach with a jab.. Even Jimmy Young jabbed the crap out of Foreman so that nullified his power... Chamberlain would be smashing shots down on Ali from a 10" height advantage and 23" reach advantage that Foreman didn't enjoy. With an 80 pound weight advantage he would destroy Ali... AND AGAIN!!! If it were just massive height, weight, and reach advantages it wouldn't mean that much.. Most 7' tall men couldn't make it in the NBA to save their asses.. Chamberlain was a super athlete.

Wilt Chamberlain was 7'1" X 290 with a 101" reach. His jab was like a sledge hammer and his hands were more than twice as big as Ali's. His speed and power would just overwhelm Ali. He lead the league in scoring and field goal accuracy for many years in a row and was the greatest rebounder of all time by a million miles... No wonder Ali refused to sign the negotiated contract.

Punch power requires technique, you don't learn punching technique shooting hoops.

Wilt backed out plain and simple. Check your facts. You're talking out of your arsehole.

You are clearly delusional, not surprising, you probably have dementia, given that you were there to watch John L Sullivan train as a boy, carried Henry Armstrongs spit bucket, and used to nosh off Sugar Ray in between rounds.

I'm not going to waste any more time on a moron like you.

You're going to join my ignore list. Bye!

"It was always Wilt's dream to fight Muhammad Ali for the heavyweight championship," Arum said. "But when Ali lost to Frazier, it couldn't be a championship fight. However, Wilt was still interested in doing it for the right amount. We got together and his lawyer, myself and Wilt worked it out."

The sides came to a verbal agreement that Chamberlain and Ali would fight a 15-round bout on July 26, 1971, at the Houston Astrodome. The savvy Arum, though, knew that without a signed contract, there was no guarantee the fight would go through. So Arum pulled Ali aside before the news conference and told him to cool it.

"You know how Ali was and what a great promoter he was," Arum said. "I was assured by Wilt's lawyer he would sign, but I just had a funny feeling. I grabbed Ali before Wilt got there and "told him I thought the guy was getting shaky and might pull out of the fight and I told him to shut up until (Chamberlain) actually signed. And he went, `Yeah, yeah, yeah.'"

But as soon as Chamberlain and his lawyer entered the office at the Astrodome where Ali and Arum were waiting, things changed. The showman in Ali took over even though there were no media there to witness it. As Chamberlain ducked his head through the doorway, Ali shouted `Timber! The tree will fall in four!!"

Chamberlain immediately asked Arum if he could use a private phone for a few minutes before proceeding. Arum set him up in Astrodome owner Judge Roy Hoffheinz' office and left him alone. Chamberlain called Jack Kent Cooke and quickly agreed to terms with the Lakers.

"I don't know whether he was using the possibility of the fight as leverage against the Lakers or not, but obviously Cooke didn't want him to go ahead with the fight," Arum said. While Arum said he was convinced Ali would have beaten Chamberlain, he said the fight would have been "huge" at the box office, and said that longtime trainer Cus D'Amato had worked with the basketball star and saw potential in him as a boxer.

At the same time, Arum had seen how poorly a world-class athlete from another sport would have performed against Ali. Arum was in London with Ali in the mid-1960s when football superstar Jim Brown was there filming a movie. Brown had yet to announce his retirement from the NFL, but went up to Arum, a close friend, and said he wanted to fight Ali.

Arum relayed the message to Ali who said to bring Brown to London's Hyde Park. When they arrived, Ali told Brown to try to hit and not to worry about his, Ali's safety. "Jimmy was obviously a big, strong guy and he would probably have beaten the (crap) out of everyone in the NFL at the time," Arum said. "Ali told him to hit him and Jimmy started swinging. He was throwing these big, hard punches, but he wasn't coming close to hitting him.

"Then, Ali said he would start to hit back when Jimmy was trying to hit him. And Ali hit him in the face with an open palm and slapped him about 20 times before Jimmy could get out of the way. Jimmy was one of the great athletes ever, but boxing is a different sport and that's why I don't think Chamberlain wouldn't have been much of a threat."

so than robert wadlow beats anybody ?

Chepppaaa wrote:so than robert wadlow beats anybody ?

Well??....yes.

Kalan where are you? We got a guy here who doesn't know that you just have to be tall to be the best boxer.

Kalown should post soon. He does tall posts ;)

foxdog1923 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:so than robert wadlow beats anybody ?

Well??....yes.

Kalan where are you? We got a guy here who doesn't know that you just have to be tall to be the best boxer.

Kalown should post soon. He does tall posts ;)

i know

wadlow kos prime tua, tua wouldnt even touch his head, only body, that wouldnt work, cause wadlow has a strong body, wadlow put out his jab and jab him to pulp

the new lists of p4p best ever boxer

1. robert wadlow
2. charlie z
3. the guy who made an entrance like prince naseem hamed

remember all those roided up football players in the 80's who wanted to fight tyson
for 10's of millions, but when tyson said, "ok just beat someone in the top 15 first"
not one of them was willing to even try. think about it. 10's of millions of dollars
for a fight with tyson (who you sincerely believe you belong in a ring with) but
you are not willing to beat ONE GUY well below tyson's level to earn the opportunity?
we are just talking about ONE. i think mandarich was one, probably just using the
controversy he could start to sign a bigger rookie contract. if you aren't willing to
even fight ONE journeyman to earn a title shot, then you might as well be talking
about what you would do in a light saber duel against darth vader or road race
against speedy gonzalez. i would be shocked if shaq or chamberlain could last more
than 3 rounds with anyone in the top 50 if they trained for a year.
"too tall" was probably the only one to give it an honest effort and he actually beat
the mexican champ. he knew when the freak show was over and went back to the
NFL when he would have had to step up and fight someone ranked and get embarrased.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/33709

sucracristo wrote:remember all those roided up football players in the 80's who wanted to fight tyson
for 10's of millions, but when tyson said, "ok just beat someone in the top 15 first"
not one of them was willing to even try. think about it. 10's of millions of dollars
for a fight with tyson (who you sincerely believe you belong in a ring with) but
you are not willing to beat ONE GUY well below tyson's level to earn the opportunity?
we are just talking about ONE. i think mandarich was one, probably just using the
controversy he could start to sign a bigger rookie contract. if you aren't willing to
even fight ONE journeyman to earn a title shot, then you might as well be talking
about what you would do in a light saber duel against darth vader or road race
against speedy gonzalez. i would be shocked if shaq or chamberlain could last more
than 3 rounds with anyone in the top 50 if they trained for a year.
"too tall" was probably the only one to give it an honest effort and he actually beat
the mexican champ. he knew when the freak show was over and went back to the
NFL when he would have had to step up and fight someone ranked and get embarrased.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/33709

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gastineau

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

sucracristo wrote:remember all those roided up football players in the 80's who wanted to fight tyson
for 10's of millions, but when tyson said, "ok just beat someone in the top 15 first"
not one of them was willing to even try. think about it. 10's of millions of dollars
for a fight with tyson (who you sincerely believe you belong in a ring with) but
you are not willing to beat ONE GUY well below tyson's level to earn the opportunity?
we are just talking about ONE. i think mandarich was one, probably just using the
controversy he could start to sign a bigger rookie contract. if you aren't willing to
even fight ONE journeyman to earn a title shot, then you might as well be talking
about what you would do in a light saber duel against darth vader or road race
against speedy gonzalez. i would be shocked if shaq or chamberlain could last more
than 3 rounds with anyone in the top 50 if they trained for a year.
"too tall" was probably the only one to give it an honest effort and he actually beat
the mexican champ. he knew when the freak show was over and went back to the
NFL when he would have had to step up and fight someone ranked and get embarrased.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/33709

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gastineau

i don't need to click that. i remember his oppoenents all turned out to be paid to lose and he
got wrecked by another NFL guy and i think he went to prison for a while. "honest effort" were
the key words. there are other guys from football and basketball and baseball that tried boxing
as well, but scary to think jones was probably the best of them all and he was really just a quick
sideshow. you would think if it was such a possibility that someone from a big league sport
could just jump into title contention that at least one would have been able to beat anyone
in the top 50 by now. breazeale was a division I football player, but he boxed since he was
a teenager. i know there is a british level guy, woodhouse, who played premier league and
some heavyweights who played rugby and aussie rules.

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/bo ... sports.htm

Roy Bedwell - professional race car driver.

Frank Bialowas - played professional ice hockey for the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1993-1994.

Paul Bonson - professional rugby player.

John Clark - drafted by the Green Bay Packers of the NFL and spent time on the San Francisco 49ers practice squad.

Tony Faeth - major league baseball pitcher for the Cleveland Indians in 1919-1920.

Adam Fogerty - professional rugby player.

Johnny Fuller - professional bodybuilder, participating in four Mr. Olympia contests.

Mark Gastineau - played defensive end for the New York Jets of the NFL from 1979-1988. Five-time Pro Bowler and three-time First-Team All-Pro.

Kendall Gill - played professional basketball in the NBA for seven teams from 1990-2005.

Frank Gotch - Hall of Fame professional wrestler in early 1900s (when sport was largely legit).

Tex Hamer - played professional football for the Frankford Yellow Jackets of the NFL from 1924-1927.

Tonya Harding - figure skating champion best known for her role in conspiracy to attack rival Nancy Kerrigan during practice at the 1994 U.S. Figure Skating Championships.

Solomon Haumono - professional rugby player.

Alonzo Highsmith - played professional football as a running back for three teams from 1987-1992.

John Hopoate - professional rugby player.

Chris John - member of Indonesian national wushu team (a Chinese martial art similar to kung fu).

Billy Johnstone - professional rugby player.

Ed (Too Tall) Jones - played defensive end for the Dallas Cowboys of the NFL from 1974-1989. Three-time Pro Bowler and one-time First-Team All-Pro. Member of 1978 Super Bowl XII championship team.

Jevon Langford - played defensive end for the Cincinnati Bengals of the NFL from 1996-2001.

Leif Larsen - played defensive tackle for the Buffalo Bills of the NFL from 2000-2001.

George Linberger - participated in training camp for the Detroit Lions of the NFL and played professional football for the Las Vegas Sting of the Arena Football League.

Roy Lumpkin - played professional football for the Portsmouth Spartans, Detroit Lions and Brooklyn Dodgers of the NFL from 1930-1937.

Anthony Mundine - professional rugby player.

Al Nesser - professional football player for three teams in the NFL and AFL as an offensive lineman from 1920-1931.

Earl Nolan - professional football player as a tackle for the Chicago Cardinals of the NFL from 1937-1938.

Dick (Tiny) Powell - professional football player for the semi-pro Irontown (OH) Tanks in 1929.

Ted Reiter - played professional football for the Billings Outlaws of the Indoor Football League.

Ray Richards - professional football player for three NFL teams from 1930-1936.

Jeremy Scruggs - professional football player for the Memphis Xplorers of the Arena Football League's developmental league.

Art (The Great) Shires - major league baseball first baseman for three teams from 1928-1930 and 1932.

Duke Slater - played professional football as an offensive tackle for three NFL teams from 1922-1931. In 1927 and 1929, was the only black player in the NFL. Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist in 1970, 1971.

Al Spohrer - major league baseball catcher for for two teams from 1928-1935.

George Trafton - plaited football player as a center for Chicgo of the NFL from 1920-1932. Credited as being the first center to snap the ball with one hand. Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1964.

Adrian White - played professional football player as a defensive back for the New York Giants, Green Bay Packers and New England Patriots of the NFL from 1987-1993.

Craig Wolfley - played professional football as an offensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Minnesota Vikings of the NFL from 1980-1991.

Curtis Woodhouse - professional soccer player as a midfielder from 1997-2009.

Roy Young - professional football player as an offensive guard and tackle for the Washington Redskins of the NFL in 1938.

Tom Zbikowski - currently plays professional football player as a defensive back for the Baltimore Ravens of the NFL (2008-2010).