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Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 20:08
by foxdog1923

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 20:13
by Evander
OMG another one :brick:

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:14
by sucracristo
Evander wrote:OMG another one :brick:
another one who looked like he had some fight breathed back into him from somewhere
after his career as a top level guy was almost done. now we know where it came from.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:20
by SaadOffTheDeck
It was Jack's fault!!!!!!!!

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:27
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was Jack's fault!!!!!!!!
. . . and an American conspiracy.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 26 May 2016, 22:36
by Perseus
Yet another PED user claiming he doesn't know how it got into his system.

The cheaters are consistent aren't they?
None of them knew they were cheating.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:18
by diddy
Hmmm. Who called it? What pisses me off is that bullshyt draw cost me a lot of money. Now I'm even more pissed.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:24
by Syntax Error
I blame Wilt Chamberlain. :oops: :doh:

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:32
by s21
Perseus wrote:None of them knew they were cheating.
Well, that's completely possible, since I can easily imagine in most cases the fighter just consume whatever his team said since he himself won't know much about the details

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:37
by gilgamesh
Well at least he was coming off a loss. So whatever. I wasn't too crazy about seeing him get another title shot he didn't earn anyway.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 02:51
by Nightmare Roy
sucracristo wrote:
Evander wrote:OMG another one :brick:
another one who looked like he had some fight breathed back into him from somewhere
after his career as a top level guy was almost done. now we know where it came from.
A lot of people were very suspect if that performance if I remember rightly.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 03:59
by handsofstone
Shame because i liked Bute,why cant fighters these days dredge up good performances later in their career through dedication,motivation and inspiration?

Instead of juicing?,ban them all for life,its becoming an epidemic if feels

[try saying the 1st paragraph in your best Don King impression]

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 09:11
by diddy
Guys have always been cheating. The testing is just getting better and more efficient. Was this another guy VADA caught?

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 09:21
by boxing_rocks
diddy wrote:Guys have always been cheating. The testing is just getting better and more efficient.
Exactly

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 09:32
by Perseus
s21 wrote:
Perseus wrote:None of them knew they were cheating.
Well, that's completely possible, since I can easily imagine in most cases the fighter just consume whatever his team said since he himself won't know much about the details
It is possible.

It is also possible and far more likely that all of them knew what there were doing, thought they could beat the drug tests then just say they didn't know after getting caught.
Even if they don't know they still deserve whatever punishment they get after failing a drug test.
The boxers know the drug tests are coming, if they don't question AND research everything about their diet they are idiots.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 10:19
by boxing_rocks
Perseus wrote:
s21 wrote:
Perseus wrote:None of them knew they were cheating.
Well, that's completely possible, since I can easily imagine in most cases the fighter just consume whatever his team said since he himself won't know much about the details
It is possible.

It is also possible and far more likely that all of them knew what there were doing, thought they could beat the drug tests then just say they didn't know after getting caught.
Even if they don't know they still deserve whatever punishment they get after failing a drug test.
Do you mean they deserve TUE (Therapeutic use exception) like Floyd ?

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 11:40
by Perseus
boxing_rocks wrote:
Perseus wrote:
s21 wrote:
Well, that's completely possible, since I can easily imagine in most cases the fighter just consume whatever his team said since he himself won't know much about the details
It is possible.

It is also possible and far more likely that all of them knew what there were doing, thought they could beat the drug tests then just say they didn't know after getting caught.
Even if they don't know they still deserve whatever punishment they get after failing a drug test.
Do you mean they deserve TUE (Therapeutic use exception) like Floyd ?
Do you look for a way to bring your obvious anti-Mayweather agenda into every thread or are you just a Bute fan trying to defend him by pointing out what other boxers do?

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 11:46
by boxing_rocks
Perseus wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Perseus wrote:
It is possible.

It is also possible and far more likely that all of them knew what there were doing, thought they could beat the drug tests then just say they didn't know after getting caught.
Even if they don't know they still deserve whatever punishment they get after failing a drug test.
Do you mean they deserve TUE (Therapeutic use exception) like Floyd ?
Do you look for a way to bring your obvious anti-Mayweather agenda into every thread or are you just a Bute fan trying to defend him by pointing out what other boxers do?
I am saying that almost all top fighters are using something, but some like Mayweather or Vargas get a pass, while others get punished.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 14:15
by Jaywheel
Finally something positive in his career since losing to Froch.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:46
by fanman
Fury said he reckons ALL top athletes are on drugs. And he may not be the most credible person in the world but it certainly rings true.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:57
by greg
fanman wrote:Fury said he reckons ALL top athletes are on drugs. And he may not be the most credible person in the world but it certainly rings true.
..well that sounds like self-incrimination to me.. :o

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:08
by jamesmcdonnell
diddy wrote:Guys have always been cheating. The testing is just getting better and more efficient. Was this another guy VADA caught?
Yep.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:32
by diddy
It was obvious to me, and I said so here at the time, that Bute was on something for the DeGale fight. He looked like a completely energized fighter from the recent couple of years. A different man. Gonna let you in on a little secret, you dont get BETTER and LIVELIER in your mid to late 30's naturally. It doesnt matter how "good your diet is" or "how well you take care of yourself". Professional sports, and especially combat sports, are a young man's world.

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:47
by tiny_acres
diddy wrote:It was obvious to me, and I said so here at the time, that Bute was on something for the DeGale fight. He looked like a completely energized fighter from the recent couple of years. A different man. Gonna let you in on a little secret, you dont get BETTER and LIVELIER in your mid to late 30's naturally. It doesnt matter how "good your diet is" or "how well you take care of yourself". Professional sports, and especially combat sports, are a young man's world.
Great post

Re: Lucian Bute tests positive for PEDs

Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:48
by tiny_acres
Syntax Error wrote:I blame Wilt Chamberlain. :oops: :doh:
:bow:
You sir just made my favorite post of today