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How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:36
by Stevieb8006
I'm not a serious fighter, but was having a move about with another southpaw at my MA class the other night and was totally flummoxed. I've only ever faced orthodox before, we totally cancelled each other out. There were lots of junior witter style moments of inactivity.
Can't any of you more experienced fighters tell me what I need to do next time please? Or give examples of southpaw vs southpaw fights I can watch?
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:54
by Old bones Ian
Don't think to much about what he's doing, just box your usual way and let him work you out.
Jab's will work well, make him open up.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 13:06
by Horse
Just hit him.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 13:17
by Stevieb8006
Old bones Ian wrote:Don't think to much about what he's doing, just box your usual way and let him work you out.
Jab's will work well, make him open up.
He's quite tall with a long reach
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should I lay back, hope he commits? Thanks btw
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 13:20
by littlepug
Horse wrote:Just hit him.
Sound like my bro when watching a fight

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 13:26
by Stuarty
littlepug wrote:Horse wrote:Just hit him.
Sound like my bro when watching a fight

My Mrs sometimes comes away with some belters! 'Why did he not punch him harder there' etc.... The best one I've heard was years ago at a Scott Harrison fight and some massive steroid head infront of me shouted 'punch em in the fuckin heed'

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 13:42
by Rexob
littlepug wrote:Horse wrote:Just hit him.
Sound like my bro when watching a fight

Ronnie Davies advice, inbetween rounds.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 14:02
by smiling assassin
Stevieb8006 wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Don't think to much about what he's doing, just box your usual way and let him work you out.
Jab's will work well, make him open up.
He's quite tall with a long reach
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should I lay back, hope he commits? Thanks btw
No mate if he's tall and rangy he probably likes to sit back and counter punch,so you doing the same will just lead to not a lot of work and loads of posturing. If I was you I would come in throwing 3-4 punches at a time. If you only throw 1 or 2 it's easier for him to pick you off. Be prepared for shots to miss but carry on throwing the punches or you will just get picked off
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 14:04
by Old bones Ian
Stevieb8006 wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Don't think to much about what he's doing, just box your usual way and let him work you out.
Jab's will work well, make him open up.
He's quite tall with a long reach
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should I lay back, hope he commits? Thanks btw
I wouldn't do that to start with, as he'll be sharper at the start, and laying back will give him something to hit at. I know its not easy but try and get inside long arms and make him work, it won't be easy, but you'll get him into position he might not feel comfortable in.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 14:08
by littlepug
Bob and weave in to close the distance, feint to the body shoot for the head
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:05
by rpms
Point towards his shoes and tell him his laces are undone,and when he looks down bash him
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:32
by Counter-puncher
Southpaw vs southpaw all other things being equal (which of course they seldom are) the dude who uses his right hand better wins

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:59
by Stevieb8006
Old bones Ian wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Don't think to much about what he's doing, just box your usual way and let him work you out.
Jab's will work well, make him open up.
He's quite tall with a long reach
![[icon_e_sad.gif] :verysad:](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
should I lay back, hope he commits? Thanks btw
I wouldn't do that to start with, as he'll be sharper at the start, and laying back will give him something to hit at. I know its not easy but try and get inside long arms and make him work, it won't be easy, but you'll get him into position he might not feel comfortable in.
I will give it a go thanks mate

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:02
by Stevieb8006
littlepug wrote:Bob and weave in to close the distance, feint to the body shoot for the head
Do you mean feint to the body with a jab then throw one upstairs if he bites, or touch him to the body with a hook then a weightier one when I'm already inside? Thanks mate.

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:03
by Stevieb8006
rpms wrote:Point towards his shoes and tell him his laces are undone,and when he looks down bash him
We train barefoot

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:05
by Stevieb8006
Counter-puncher wrote:Southpaw vs southpaw all other things being equal (which of course they seldom are) the dude who uses his right hand better wins

Nice one. That should be me then. I just feel so damn close to his left, when facing an orthodox their right seems so much further back. Thanks mate
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:29
by dookus
Short right hook when you get inside - he'll be used to catching straight shots with the backhand, not hooks. Of course, be prepared for the same yourself!
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:33
by littlepug
Stevieb8006 wrote:littlepug wrote:Bob and weave in to close the distance, feint to the body shoot for the head
Do you mean feint to the body with a jab then throw one upstairs if he bites, or touch him to the body with a hook then a weightier one when I'm already inside? Thanks mate.

Doesn't really matter as long as he reacts to the body feint by which time your other hand should be on its way to his head, simplest one is to keep jabbing his body then when you feint one you can throw your backhand over the top or even turn your fainting jab into a hook to the head. Hope that made sense.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:50
by Stevieb8006
littlepug wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:littlepug wrote:Bob and weave in to close the distance, feint to the body shoot for the head
Do you mean feint to the body with a jab then throw one upstairs if he bites, or touch him to the body with a hook then a weightier one when I'm already inside? Thanks mate.

Doesn't really matter as long as he reacts to the body feint by which time your other hand should be on its way to his head, simplest one is to keep jabbing his body then when you feint one you can throw your backhand over the top or even turn your fainting jab into a hook to the head. Hope that made sense.
Perfect sense. Thank you. Well explained.

Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:08
by CharlesListon
Use your footwork. he's used to people moving as right handers same as you. fast feet in, work his body and finish off upstairs.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:44
by Old bones Ian
Or as my trainer said before my first match, "Jab, move and don't get f*cking hit"
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 28 May 2016, 02:50
by mickey1975
Stand on his right foot and make him go the other way. They hate it.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 28 May 2016, 03:01
by ShadrachSimmo
Switch.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 28 May 2016, 03:32
by SAPFO
I'm southpaw, but right handed. I find southpaws easier as my lead is faster, and stronger. The opponents feel the jab, and lead right hook, and think "fornicate, I'm not getting caught with that backhand"...In reality they don't need to worry about that as I'm more or less fighting with one arm.
Re: How does a southpaw beat another southpaw.
Posted: 28 May 2016, 03:56
by olij999
Stevieb8006 wrote:I'm not a serious fighter, but was having a move about with another southpaw at my MA class the other night and was totally flummoxed. I've only ever faced orthodox before, we totally cancelled each other out. There were lots of junior witter style moments of inactivity.
Can't any of you more experienced fighters tell me what I need to do next time please? Or give examples of southpaw vs southpaw fights I can watch?
Surround the ring with floor to ceiling mirrors. Both of you then look at the mirrors rather than your live opponent. The reflection will make you think your opponent is orthodox and that you are also orthodox. Hey presto, problem solved!