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Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:09
by CharlesListon
When Haye does.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:23
by Horse
Wilder was going to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Why does Wilder deserve to be insulted?

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:24
by Boxerbeetle
Horse wrote:Wilder was going to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Why does Wilder deserve to be insulted?
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Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:46
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
JohnH wrote:When will we see Deontay “Windmill” Wilder really step up??

Murmurings of a Boxing Madman · Friday, 27 May 2016

So with his proposed mandated fight against Povetkin falling through it now looks like Wilder will return to type and have an “easy” defence.
Current names in the frame are Chris Arreola (third time lucky at the HW belt), Gerald Washington and even Antonio Tarver has now thrown his name into the hat. Whilst the pullout of Povetkin due to PEDs wasn’t Wilder or his team’s fault, he must surely fight a name, somebody that will push him? Povetkin would have been his toughest opponent, now we are left with nothingness...

Of the three fighters mentioned now, the oldest (Tarver) is likely to be the most resilient to Wilder, however he’s not ranked by the WBC, so that looks like a possible non starter. Washington is ranked 15th by the WBC and Arreola will be top 15 again once his misdemeanour for smoking dope is expunged in the next rankings.

Of the current top 6 in the WBC, Povetkin (1) is banned, Duhaupas (3) has already had his shot and was KO’d in the 11th Vs Wilder, Stiverne (2) lost the title to Wilder on points (only time he’s gone the distance) and Parker (6) has just beaten Takam (5) to become Joshua’s mandatory. That leaves Pulev (4), who has just come out on top against Chisora over 12 rounds to win on points.

Pulev poses too many questions for Wilder, awkward and able to take a punch, his only loss was to a dominant Klitschko in 2014, where he was stopped in the 5th round, having given the champ some problems at times during that fight.

Instead of Pulev though we will see Wilder fight somebody who really doesn’t excite the fans or pose much of a test (I know HW boxing can only take one punch, however, come on...).

Are we EVER likely to see Wilder step it up? I very much doubt it and eventually most if not all of the boxing fans who watch him will see the same...

Bronze Bomber? I say more like Bronze Bottler, more Fraud Squad than Bomb Squad, I guess time will tell...

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Good evening John

I think you should come clean and admit this 'article' has recently been edited, when first posted it contained the following howlers

ex-sponged

most likely to be the most resisliant

Takam (5) has just lost to Parker (6) to become Joshua’s mandatory
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I also think you should have the good manners to thank the person who proof read the article and brought these errors to your attention.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 17:58
by Horse
JohnH wrote:Who has he fought of any note?

Not a difficult question.

Oh, and I've not insulted him half as much as he has insulted the fans.
Malik Scott, Bermane Stiverne, Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas & Artur Szpilka all within the last 2 years & 3 months.

He just tried to fight the World's No. 3 Povetkin.

In what way has he insulted the fans?

He does not deserve this.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:05
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
JohnH wrote:Who has he fought of any note?

Not a difficult question.

Oh, and I've not insulted him half as much as he has insulted the fans.
He fought Stiverne who was champion, not a great champion but he was the man who held the title he wanted.

Duhaupas and Molina have both scored decent wins since losing to Wilder so they are not total scrubs, I'd say both were better than Breazeale for example?

How exactly has he 'insulted the fans' they had a choice in viewing or not viewing.

Also John don't you think it's a bit disrespectful promoting your own site on here?

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:07
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
JohnH wrote:That will be never then.

Haye is a joke.
Former two weight world champion and multi millionaire, if he's a 'joke' what does that make you John?

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:11
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
JohnH wrote:Parker has fought better.
Apart from a very pedestrian and unambitious Takam, Parker hasn't fought anyone of note, certainly no better than the names Horse listed.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:13
by Horse
JohnH wrote:Apart from Stiverne who is world level in your list??
If you don't think that they're world level then what is the point of me telling you that they are?
JohnH wrote:Parker has fought better.
No, he hasn't.

Takam was good, but that's about it.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:29
by Horse
JohnH wrote:Wow, he clearly has!!
He really hasn't.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:32
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
John please consider that only a couple of hours ago you used the word 'ex-sponged' in your article, so this arrogance is somewhat misplaced.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:34
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
Horse you're wasting your time sir, John is not the brightest of men and he thrives on this petty antagonism.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:39
by Horse
Cyril Henry Hoskin wrote:Horse you're wasting your time sir, John is not the brightest of men and he thrives on this petty antagonism.
I tried.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:46
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
Horse wrote:I tried.
A valiant attempt but ultimately futile, the man is complete oaf.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:51
by Horse
Cyril Henry Hoskin wrote:A valiant attempt but ultimately futile, the man is complete oaf.
He's a character if nothing else.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:09
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
Horse wrote:He's a character if nothing else.
He certainly tries very hard to be a 'character' anyway.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:19
by Horse
Cyril Henry Hoskin wrote:He certainly tries very hard to be a 'character' anyway.
Being a 'character' comes easy to some, others have to work at it.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:27
by Cyril Henry Hoskin
Horse wrote:Being a 'character' comes easy to some, other have to work at it.
:lol:

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:38
by ttornado
Horse wrote:Wilder was going to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Why does Wilder deserve to be insulted?
Because Haye is a much better foe than the fat Mexican

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:41
by Horse
ttornado wrote:Because Haye is a much better foe than the fat Mexican
What's Haye got to do with it?

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:43
by ttornado
Horse wrote:What's Haye got to do with it?
Why not Wilder vs Haye?

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:46
by Horse
ttornado wrote:Why not Wilder vs Haye?
That fight needs to be built and Haye's got to fight Briggs first.

Haye should be fighting Joshua anyway. That fight is far bigger and more winnable.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:48
by ttornado
Horse wrote:That fight needs to be built and Haye's got to fight Briggs first.

Haye should be fighting Joshua anyway. That fight is far bigger and more winnable.
It builds the AJ fight.
Not every fight needs 'marinading'. Lets see fighters just fight.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:50
by Horse
ttornado wrote:It builds the AJ fight.
Not every fight needs 'marinading'. Lets see fighters just fight.
Wilder destroying Haye doesn't help to build the Joshua fight.

Haye should beat Briggs then look for the Joshua fight.

Re: When Is Wilder Really Going To Step Up???

Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:54
by ttornado
Horse wrote:Wilder destroying Haye doesn't help to build the Joshua fight.
I wouldn't be so sure that it ends like that.