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i guess the main question now: is boxing becoming better in the future?

i am talking like in the old days, the 80s, the 90s. the tyson, the trinidad eras, the action era. i mean if you could give points 80 and 90 were like 9 out of 10, lets not forget a lot of big fights also didnt happen back than like tyson-bowe or jones-michalchewski, but todays era, like from 2000 till now, its like 6 ouf of 10, and if we talk present, right f§%ing now, than its like 3 out of 10, just horrible. only light at the tunnel is postol-crawford or glowacki-usyk.

so the big question is, in your heart, what do you think, is boxing getting into a better direction or will we stay at a ~3 for the next 10 years or so to come, with top heavyweights avoiding each other and boxing c level opponents like martin or fat areolo or will something happen, promoters working clother together that we get out of the mud?

I don't expect the way the business of Boxing works to change anytime soon, but I figure 2017 will be a better year than 2016. It'd be hard for it not to be.

go to the main boxrec page, click "date" at the top. when that page comes up,
pick a random saturday from the 70's, 80's, 90's. not a specific day that you
remember a huge fight happening. pick a random saturday. now compare that to
this saturday or next saturday. people look back on previous decades and eras
as if the best fight they remember from that era happened every weekend.
ADD and the 5 minute attention span have gotten MUCH worse, and i would
say that more than anything is what is different about now. yeah, a couple of
big fights fell through recently, but most of the people complaining about how
there isn't any boxing on tv anymore and they don't recognize any names
won't watch more than one or two of these
http://fightnights.com/upcoming-boxing-schedule
just go to the line starting with the little click showing fight time and it shows
the channel to watch. there is a shitload of boxing to watch and a lot of it
will be entertaining, including the undercards. in the 80's and 90's there weren't
nearly as many channels and no internet streaming. maybe late 90's you had dial
up but no way were you streaming boxing. what was boxrec like 10 years ago?
if boxrec visitors don't know who these boxers are and can't pronounce their names,
they have never had less of an excuse for that than this era. we didn't get canelo-3g
but if we get saunders-3g i'm fine with that. we didn't get wilder-povetkin (it seems)
but there is a good shake out happening in the heavy division after fury upset wlad
end of last year, so by the end of the year this will be considered best in a long time
for the heavies. we have been getting top 10 guys fighting each other in lots of divisions
and this year has lots more on the horizon.

Chepppaaa wrote:i guess the main question now: is boxing becoming better in the future?

It's better now.. Look at the 1910's and 1920's. Jack Johnson was a fugitive from justice on trumped up charges. He fled the USA for several years. Then black fighters were denied shots at the Heavyweight Title for 20 years. Willard and Dempsey took 4 years off and 3 years off respectively where they didn't defend the Heavyweight Title at all. Not good situations ... In the 30's Max Schmeling knocked out Joe Louis and was supposed to get the next shot at James J Braddock. He would probably have been the first 2-time Heavyweight Champion. He didn't get the promised shot because he was German. He was pretty much boycotted and got almost no fights while Louis got 9 fights over the next 2 years and the shot at Braddock ... The 1940's had WWII and a dearth of good Heavyweights ... The 1950's was the decade of the tiny Heavyweight. No Heavyweight Champion or challenger weighed a legitimate 200 pounds. Liston chased Patterson for several years ... In the 60's Ali was stripped of the title and his passport because he rightfully thought the Viet Nam War was a stupid conflict for the USA ... In the 70's there were some truly terrible challengers such as Chuck Wepner, Jean Pierre Coopman, Alfredo Evangelista, and Leon Spinks. Comedians make jokes about Ali and Evangelista winning the Nobel Peace Prize for promoting non-violence in Boxing ... In the 80's Larry Holmes lost the Heavyweight Title to the Light Heavyweight Champion. The first time in Fistic History that happened ... In the 90's Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson ducked Lennox Lewis for almost the entire decade, until Holyfield finally fought Lewis in 1999 ... In the 2000's Lewis-Klitschko took place on less than 2 weeks notice. It ended after 6 rounds with Klitschko winning on all cards, but losing on cuts. The promised and desired rematch never happened.

The boxers are better today than ever, but the politics and shenanigans are FAR WORSE than ever. Boxing has set records in worldwide revenues every year for the past 11 years... Maybe that's why promoters think they shove 2nd rate matchups down our throats non-stop.

of course things get better and of course
people will deny that due to being nostalgic
about their own youth. the same continuous
debate. the theme of this thread was always
burning. imagine the times of corbett, or
dempsey, or louis, or ali, or tyson ... there
were always middle aged people denying the
greatness in front of their very eyes.

Honestly there are more reasons for screw ups now.

It used to be only an alleged injury would cancel a fight, now it's an alleged injury AND a failed drug test.

It used to be that bad decisions or early stoppages would muddle the outcome of a fight, now it's bad decisions, early stoppages AND failed drug tests.

I see an ugly pattern.