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These 2 seem to be getting massively hyped up by black boxing fans

Theres so many black american fighters,... but it's quantity over quality, There really is a lack of top class black boxers at the moment. All the best fighters seem to be coming from the UK, Russia and Ukraine.

Dyou think they will live up to the hype? or will they prove to be just like Jeff Lacy, Seth Mitchell, Adrien Broner Malik Scott, Andre Berto,etc etc

You're straight up a horsecrap artist who thinks he's kidding somebody. Terence Crawford is a flat out a great fighter and 2-Division World Champion. If he got the opportunity against the ducking, cherry-picking Pacquiao he would have mowed that boy down and destroyed him.

Errol Spence is one of the greatest Welterweights of all time. He would batter the living sheet out of cherry picking duck club members: Pacquiao, Khan, Bradley, and Maidana anytime those girls get ready to face him... Brook, Thurman, and Porter could present some problems for him.

That does nothing to diminish super great fighters like: Golvokin, Kovalev, Lomachenko, Beterbiev, or even Postol who looks a little shakier and is new on the scene. I still think Postal will give Crawford a good fight. It's an unbelievable era for Boxing. Fighters of every race are doing well in most divisions. The problem is how Boxing has been steadily structured to deny glory to the best fighters and allow cherry pickers like Mayweather.. Pacquiao.. Stevenson.. Canelo.. Santa Cruz.. Saunders.. Jacobs.. Selby.. Fury, and Wilder to run around boasting how great they are - and then hide behind dubious orgs, advisors, promoters, and other protectors.. The Heavyweights right now are Joshua and Ortiz whether anybody likes it or not.

Kalan wrote:You're straight up a horsecrap artist who thinks he's kidding somebody. Terence Crawford is a flat out a great fighter and 2-Division World Champion. If he got the opportunity against the ducking, cherry-picking Pacquiao he would have mowed that boy down and destroyed him.

Errol Spence is one of the greatest Welterweights of all time. He would batter the living sheet out of cherry picking duck club members: Pacquiao, Khan, Bradley, and Maidana anytime those girls get ready to face him... Brook, Thurman, and Porter could present some problems for him.

That does nothing to diminish super great fighters like: Golvokin, Kovalev, Lomachenko, Beterbiev, or even Postol who looks a little shakier and is new on the scene. I still think Postal will give Crawford a good fight. It's an unbelievable era for Boxing. Fighters of every race are doing well in most divisions. The problem is how Boxing has been steadily structured to deny glory to the best fighters and allow cherry pickers like Mayweather.. Pacquiao.. Stevenson.. Canelo.. Santa Cruz.. Saunders.. Jacobs.. Selby.. Fury, and Wilder to run around boasting how great they are - and then hide behind dubious orgs, advisors, promoters, and other protectors.. The Heavyweights right now are Joshua and Ortiz whether anybody likes it or not.

hhahaha when I read the first line of your middle paragragh I laughed because I though you were doing some tongue in cheek trolling.... but no you was being seirous hahahaha.

Crawford is a good young fighter... but he has done nothing much yet! hes faced cherry picked bums at 140.So what he's a 2 weight world champ, adriend Broner is a 3 weight world champ and hes a bum, Ricky Burns is a 3 weight world champ too. And to say he would have beaten a proven great like Pacquaio is crazy!
Errol Spence is just a good prospect lol, hes not really beaten anybody... he may prove to be another hyped up black bum. You people make yourself look stupid overhyping guys like this haha!

fighters of every race? I don;t see South Asians who make up 1/3rd of the worlds population doing anything at any decent level in boxing. Or arabs. And East Asians can only compete in the lower divisions where theres very few boxers. Basicaly Whites dominate, and Mestizos and Blacks have a few champs but not many.

Clearly the top 3 heavues are Fury, Klitschko and Povetkin, Ortiz is very old and Joshua is very green its far too soon to be saying anything about them lol.

This forum has officially fallen off the deep end...

people talk about Crawford like he's done 10 times what hes done so far lol, the overhyping is extreme.

And Spence is a good prospect but people are talking like hes the best prospect of the last decade... when hes not even a top 5 prospect.. guys like Usyk and Gvozdyk are clearly better.

They are clearly a massive hope for black boxing fans.. who most seem to follow boxing by race ( its just the truth, just look at all the youtube channel by black guys). As soon as Postol beat Matthysse they were all saying Amir Imam would beat up Postol haha.. then he lost to a journeyman in his next fight.

Seth Mitchell was the man to dethrone Klitschko. Jeff Lacy was gonna destroy Calzaghe

I remember a few years back the same people saying Spence would beat Pacqauio... were saying Mike Jones would beat Pacquaio
etc etc etc

Did bnovelist get banned and resurrected as Straight Nasty ?

"adriend Broner is a 3 weight world champ and hes a bum"

Broner got his ass kicked in by Maidana and a weight drained Porter. He doesn't do well with the class B fighters they've selected for him lately... They never matched him with Garcia, Matthysse, Crawford, or Postol for a good reason!!! ... He's a sht-bird. Crawford is the real deal

I hope Those fighters from The Former Soviet Union are doing it Clean. Seems to be Tremendous Ped Activity with Athletes from that region

scallum2015 wrote:I hope Those fighters from The Former Soviet Union are doing it Clean. Seems to be Tremendous Ped Activity with Athletes from that region

Do you mean Floyd, Tarver, Arreola, etc. ?

boxing_rocks wrote:

scallum2015 wrote:I hope Those fighters from The Former Soviet Union are doing it Clean. Seems to be Tremendous Ped Activity with Athletes from that region

Do you mean Floyd, Tarver, Arreola, etc. ?

Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

NateJR wrote:This forum has officially fallen off the deep end...

sometimes the internet is bad. if there only was a way to send an electric shock to people through their
keyboards like a taser or something it might help in extreme cases. does anyone here know how to
accomplish this?

sucracristo wrote:

NateJR wrote:This forum has officially fallen off the deep end...

sometimes the internet is bad. if there only was a way to send an electric shock to people through their
keyboards like a taser or something it might help in extreme cases. does anyone here know how to
accomplish this?

Send me your address, bank account number, credit card details and mother's maiden name, and I'll tell you how.

Kalan wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

scallum2015 wrote:I hope Those fighters from The Former Soviet Union are doing it Clean. Seems to be Tremendous Ped Activity with Athletes from that region

Do you mean Floyd, Tarver, Arreola, etc. ?

Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

Do you have a congenital brain injury?

Kalan wrote:The problem is how Boxing has been steadily structured to deny glory to the best fighters and allow cherry pickers like . . . Fury, and Wilder to run around boasting how great they are - and then hide behind dubious orgs, advisors, promoters, and other protectors.. The Heavyweights right now are Joshua and Ortiz whether anybody likes it or not.

Yeah WIlder fighting rubbish like Stivern and Fury fighting rubbish Klitchsko, they should fight one of the real top heavyweights like Breazeale, or 44yo Tony Thompson.

With this topic and a few others, I think I'm done with the current scene portion of the forums for a while. It's either just awful topics, or bashing of certain fighters. You can't debate anyone these days without getting flamed and too many trolls lurking. It's a shame really, because this forum used to be a great place.....

Straight Nasty wrote:

Kalan wrote:You're straight up a horsecrap artist who thinks he's kidding somebody. Terence Crawford is a flat out a great fighter and 2-Division World Champion. If he got the opportunity against the ducking, cherry-picking Pacquiao he would have mowed that boy down and destroyed him.

Errol Spence is one of the greatest Welterweights of all time. He would batter the living sheet out of cherry picking duck club members: Pacquiao, Khan, Bradley, and Maidana anytime those girls get ready to face him... Brook, Thurman, and Porter could present some problems for him.

That does nothing to diminish super great fighters like: Golvokin, Kovalev, Lomachenko, Beterbiev, or even Postol who looks a little shakier and is new on the scene. I still think Postal will give Crawford a good fight. It's an unbelievable era for Boxing. Fighters of every race are doing well in most divisions. The problem is how Boxing has been steadily structured to deny glory to the best fighters and allow cherry pickers like Mayweather.. Pacquiao.. Stevenson.. Canelo.. Santa Cruz.. Saunders.. Jacobs.. Selby.. Fury, and Wilder to run around boasting how great they are - and then hide behind dubious orgs, advisors, promoters, and other protectors.. The Heavyweights right now are Joshua and Ortiz whether anybody likes it or not.

hhahaha when I read the first line of your middle paragragh I laughed because I though you were doing some tongue in cheek trolling.... but no you was being seirous hahahaha.

Crawford is a good young fighter... but he has done nothing much yet! hes faced cherry picked bums at 140.So what he's a 2 weight world champ, adriend Broner is a 3 weight world champ and hes a bum, Ricky Burns is a 3 weight world champ too. And to say he would have beaten a proven great like Pacquaio is crazy!
Errol Spence is just a good prospect lol, hes not really beaten anybody... he may prove to be another hyped up black bum. You people make yourself look stupid overhyping guys like this haha!

fighters of every race? I don;t see South Asians who make up 1/3rd of the worlds population doing anything at any decent level in boxing. Or arabs. And East Asians can only compete in the lower divisions where theres very few boxers. Basicaly Whites dominate, and Mestizos and Blacks have a few champs but not many.

Clearly the top 3 heavues are Fury, Klitschko and Povetkin, Ortiz is very old and Joshua is very green its far too soon to be saying anything about them lol.

Povetkin is a dope head who did everything in his power and then some to avoid both Wlad for many years and now Wilder. So I will take it that you are kidding about Povetkin. Joshua could knock out 5 guys like Schwartz and Gjerkoff in one night.

Kalan wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

scallum2015 wrote:I hope Those fighters from The Former Soviet Union are doing it Clean. Seems to be Tremendous Ped Activity with Athletes from that region

Do you mean Floyd, Tarver, Arreola, etc. ?

Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

Have you not heard that Russia is possibly about to get banned from Olympics because of overindulgence in Ped's ? Melondoiun is widely used by Russian Mma and Boxing fighters smh. Some Americans are probably just as guilty but it seems very widespread in Russia

scallum2015 wrote:

Kalan wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Do you mean Floyd, Tarver, Arreola, etc. ?

Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

Have you not heard that Russia is possibly about to get banned from Olympics because of overindulgence in Ped's ? Melondoiun is widely used by Russian Mma and Boxing fighters smh. Some Americans are probably just as guilty but it seems very widespread in Russia

Don't spread that BS around... Russia does not have any problem except Putin... People are trying to get at Russia because Putin's an idiot... I believe that's why Meldonium was banned... Meldonium was fine for years and now it gets banned -- and they're pulling this crap on Povetkin who never tested positive for an illegal concentration and went off the drug immediately when they announced it was getting banned.

Kalan wrote:

scallum2015 wrote:

Kalan wrote:
Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

Have you not heard that Russia is possibly about to get banned from Olympics because of overindulgence in Ped's ? Melondoiun is widely used by Russian Mma and Boxing fighters smh. Some Americans are probably just as guilty but it seems very widespread in Russia

Don't spread that BS around... Russia does not have any problem except Putin... People are trying to get at Russia because Putin's an idiot... I believe that's why Meldonium was banned... Meldonium was fine for years and now it gets banned -- and they're pulling this crap on Povetkin who never tested positive for an illegal concentration and went off the drug immediately when they announced it was getting banned.

Is this all you do? I've seen nothing but recycled nonsense from you for weeks. Blabbering idiot.

Nothing new here.

Boxrec is a pro white euro forum and it has gotten worse throughout the yrs.

armageto wrote:With this topic and a few others, I think I'm done with the current scene portion of the forums for a while. It's either just awful topics, or bashing of certain fighters. You can't debate anyone these days without getting flamed and too many trolls lurking. It's a shame really, because this forum used to be a great place.....

This. Its either people that know absolutely nothing about boxing or blatant trolls. I don't know if mods even exist but if they do, they should do a better job of cleaning out the garbage. This used to be a really good forum filled with many knowlegable posters.

If anyone knows any better forums with people who actually want to talk about boxing send me a message.

jockpunk wrote:

armageto wrote:With this topic and a few others, I think I'm done with the current scene portion of the forums for a while. It's either just awful topics, or bashing of certain fighters. You can't debate anyone these days without getting flamed and too many trolls lurking. It's a shame really, because this forum used to be a great place.....

This. Its either people that know absolutely nothing about boxing or blatant trolls. I don't know if mods even exist but if they do, they should do a better job of cleaning out the garbage. This used to be a really good forum filled with many knowlegable posters.

If anyone knows any better forums with people who actually want to talk about boxing send me a message.

I agree 100%.
This place is going down hill fast

NateJR wrote:

Kalan wrote:

scallum2015 wrote: Have you not heard that Russia is possibly about to get banned from Olympics because of overindulgence in Ped's ? Melondoiun is widely used by Russian Mma and Boxing fighters smh. Some Americans are probably just as guilty but it seems very widespread in Russia

Don't spread that BS around... Russia does not have any problem except Putin... People are trying to get at Russia because Putin's an idiot... I believe that's why Meldonium was banned... Meldonium was fine for years and now it gets banned -- and they're pulling this crap on Povetkin who never tested positive for an illegal concentration and went off the drug immediately when they announced it was getting banned.

Is this all you do? I've seen nothing but recycled nonsense from you for weeks. Blabbering idiot.

STFU idiot... People are still writing crap about Russsia and Povetkin.. I'm defending them.. You can shove it you brainless jackass

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Kalan wrote:

scallum2015 wrote:

Kalan wrote:
Right... Tarver, Arreola, Mosley, Holyfield, Tyson, Vargas, Peterson, Toney, Jones, Floyd, Morales, Berto, Tyson, Witherspoon... In fact, so many Americans have been caught doing PED's that they lied about Povetkin and filled the Internet and airwaves with false allegations.

Have you not heard that Russia is possibly about to get banned from Olympics because of overindulgence in Ped's ? Melondoiun is widely used by Russian Mma and Boxing fighters smh. Some Americans are probably just as guilty but it seems very widespread in Russia

Don't spread that BS around... Russia does not have any problem except Putin... People are trying to get at Russia because Putin's an idiot... I believe that's why Meldonium was banned... Meldonium was fine for years and now it gets banned -- and they're pulling this crap on Povetkin who never tested positive for an illegal concentration and went off the drug immediately when they announced it was getting banned.

So is there also a conspiracy against Ethiopia? Melondoiun was banned because it is performance enhancing.