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Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 05:05
by sweetviolenturge
While the VAST majority are pencilling this in as yet another easy KO win over another unbeaten American for AJ, I think Breazeale could prove to be the legitimate, dangerous test that Chas. Martin was supposed to be.
Unlike Martin, whose biggest win was a brief, disappointing, abortive injury stoppage over a hobbled fighter in Glazkov, Dominic Breazeale has faced much tougher opposition than had Martin & although he'd had to survive some tough spots, survive them he did. Displaying the sort of mental toughness & durability that Martin never had to.
Those traits, in combination with his own Olympic pedigree, his size & his power, IMO make him a dangerous underdog that AJ had better not overlook. Not even a little bit.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 05:26
by stayinshape
Hm?
I saw his Fight against Mansour....Mansour knows how to fight and was in great shape...First rounds Breazeale looks not good.
Breazeale has a weight problem....when he brings his usually fightweight around 250-255 lbs...he had no chance.
Against Mansour he looks very slow when a fighter comes in shape...and i bet...Joshua will come in shape.
Good thing is...the same reach.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 06:42
by PredatorHayds
I also see this as a good fight.
Breazeale is just as good as Martin or Whyte who are Joshua's best wins on paper at the moment.
He's not a great opponent for a world title but he's a good opponent for Joshua.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 08:25
by Bard of Boxrec
I'd be shocked if Joshua doesn't walk through him inside 3.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 09:35
by Tony1244
Breazeale has a chance.
About the same chance I have.
I'm American and wouldn't mind if he won but I like Joshua, AJ is the real deal.
Breazeale is a nice college kid who played some football. That's about it.
They're both undefeated but AJ is at least 10X more effective in the ring.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 15:19
by asdfjkl
For a world titlefight Breazeale is a joke. He had a lot of luck in his recent fights and was actually losing badly in his latest fight against a small skinny heavyweight aged 40+ if I remember it correct. But had the luck Mansour bit in his own tongue and still won all rounds after that, but had to give up anyway.
I would be very surprised if Breazeale makes it past the third round and actually surprised as well if he makes it past the second.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 15:21
by crusader
Big Fred's leftovers won't last long
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 15:23
by lefty
Martin is better than Breazeale.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 15:36
by crusader
lefty wrote:Martin is better than Breazeale.
I think he might be too, although Breazeale seems to me like he'll probably try harder.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 15:39
by TooEasy12
Joshua smashes Breazeale inside of 5 rounds. Joshua's true test is his IBF mandatory challenger Joseph Parker.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 16:04
by dwise26
Martin is not better than Breazeale and Breazeale has heart to go with his power and size. The one thing he lacks is speed. Joshua would be best to keep his distance because Breazeale likes to fight inside. Also, Breazeale chin has been tested unlike Joshua.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 16:51
by lefty
dwise26 wrote:Martin is not better than Breazeale and Breazeale has heart to go with his power and size. The one thing he lacks is speed. Joshua would be best to keep his distance because Breazeale likes to fight inside. Also, Breazeale chin has been tested unlike Joshua.
We'll see- Martin and Breazeale were gonna to fight before Martin got the opportunity to fight Glazkov. Breazeale is slow as hell, clumsy and got bashed up by Kassi and was getting beaten up by Manor before breaking his jaw with a good shot. He's dire.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 17:37
by asdfjkl
dwise26 wrote:Martin is not better than Breazeale and Breazeale has heart to go with his power and size. The one thing he lacks is speed. Joshua would be best to keep his distance because Breazeale likes to fight inside. Also, Breazeale chin has been tested unlike Joshua.
AJ's chin has been tested by Whyte, Whyte would win within 4 rounds against Breazeale.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 17:50
by scallum2015
Don't think he has much of a chance but boxing is the Theater of the unexpected
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 21:13
by gilgamesh
AJ will kick his ass easy. KO inside 4 rounds.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 21:26
by Evander
He's a very square boxer who gets caught in between switching strategy which he can't keep up with over time as the fight progresses due to pace.
Big strong carries a punch and can take a couple but is weardownable.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 22:09
by sweetviolenturge
Had this message board somehow existed back in 1984, the same sort of enthusiastic support that Joshua is enjoying here would have been predicted for an easy KO victory by Frank Bruno over "Bonecrusher" Smith, though the result wound up being quite different.
I'm just saying.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 23:14
by Kalan
sweetviolenturge wrote:Breazeale could prove to be the legitimate, dangerous test that Chas. Martin was supposed to be
That is completely delusional nonsense... Breazeale has no chance whatever... He has the height, weight, reach, strength, and toughness because he cam absorb a very hard punch. He can also punch hard.. What he can't do is box.. He doesn't have the rudimentary skills a rank amateur should have. Dominic Breazeale taught himself how to box because he has no coaching. His coaches have no clue about anything. I guess he's gone back to Manny Robles who might be a small improvement over the guy he had, I can't remember the name of the Heavyweight who was training him.
The problems are his balance, stance, footwork, timing, and delivery. They're all screwed. HIs jab is terrible. He doesn't get it out effortlessly and easily or with any snap, power or accuracy. If you can't work the jab you're reduced to throwing power shots and you're a very sloppy fighter. He brawls. He's slops around. He uses his head to push and for leverage. He grabs and leans on people like Klitschko. He tries to smother them with his huge body. He's a like an orthodox Charles Martin but with more problems and fewer skills. He's fought a couple half good fighters in Mansour and Kassi - very short, old, and half adept guys. He beat them with sheer size, strength. and athleticism, but no skills - looking like a talented football player who came out of the audience, pulled a pair of gloves on, and started swinging. He looked a hair better in the Mansour fight. At least he threw more and didn't get battered with every single punch. But he's wide open. This will be embarrassing for America.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 23:39
by Evander
Breazeale has enough to keep Joshua off him, for how long is the question.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 02:08
by asdfjkl
sweetviolenturge wrote:Had this message board somehow existed back in 1984, the same sort of enthusiastic support that Joshua is enjoying here would have been predicted for an easy KO victory by Frank Bruno over "Bonecrusher" Smith, though the result wound up being quite different.
I'm just saying.
Joshua isn't Bruno, Breazeale isn't bonecrusher. I would be amazed if Breazeale would stay in the ring longer as Jason Gavern stayed with AJ for example.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 02:21
by Nightmare Roy
It won't last 2 unless AJ wants to carry him for a few rounds, it's like a milk float racing against a formula one car. Absolutely different levels.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 03:21
by Kalan
sweetviolenturge wrote:Had this message board somehow existed back in 1984, the same sort of enthusiastic support that Joshua is enjoying here would have been predicted for an easy KO victory by Frank Bruno over "Bonecrusher" Smith, though the result wound up being quite different.
I'm just saying.
Frank Bruno has as much in common with Anthony Joshua as Derrick Jefferson had with Wladimir Klitschko... Or Bonecrusher Smith had with Ike Ibeabuchi.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 03:29
by jas80s
Not that I have any kind of record to brag about in terms of picking fights, but I would be astonunded if Brazeale sees the 3rd round even. Brazeale doesn't throw a lot, gets hit routinely, AJ is a terrific offensive fighter and appears to be a pretty fast starter. Even taking a minute or two to settle in, AJ should manage to put Brazeale on severely unsteady legs in the first round, it could end right there. I would LOVE to be wrong.
But, I'll watch as these ARE heavyweights and anything can happen. But DB putting up a good fight here borders on "anything" in this case, in my opinion.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 04:10
by Rexob
The first heavy shot Joshua lands Breazeale he will be knocked out or seriously hurt I'll be surprised if he last 3 rounds.
Re: Breazeale has a legitimate shot
Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 06:27
by PredatorHayds
Kalan wrote:sweetviolenturge wrote:Breazeale could prove to be the legitimate, dangerous test that Chas. Martin was supposed to be
That is completely delusional nonsense... Breazeale has no chance whatever... He has the height, weight, reach, strength, and toughness because he cam absorb a very hard punch. He can also punch hard.. What he can't do is box.. He doesn't have the rudimentary skills a rank amateur should have. Dominic Breazeale taught himself how to box because he has no coaching. His coaches have no clue about anything. I guess he's gone back to Manny Robles who might be a small improvement over the guy he had, I can't remember the name of the Heavyweight who was training him.
The problems are his balance, stance, footwork, timing, and delivery. They're all screwed. HIs jab is terrible. He doesn't get it out effortlessly and easily or with any snap, power or accuracy. If you can't work the jab you're reduced to throwing power shots and you're a very sloppy fighter. He brawls. He's slops around. He uses his head to push and for leverage. He grabs and leans on people like Klitschko. He tries to smother them with his huge body. He's a like an orthodox Charles Martin but with more problems and fewer skills. He's fought a couple half good fighters in Mansour and Kassi - very short, old, and half adept guys. He beat them with sheer size, strength. and athleticism, but no skills - looking like a talented football player who came out of the audience, pulled a pair of gloves on, and started swinging. He looked a hair better in the Mansour fight. At least he threw more and didn't get battered with every single punch. But he's wide open. This will be embarrassing for America.
You say he has no rudimentary skills a rank amateur has!!
You do realise he is a Olympian and how hard it is to get there don't you?