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Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 18:04
by bnovelist
I believe so! For this particular matchup, this style of fight we would see the best come out of Adrien Broner & I honestly believe that Broner doesn't
get motivated enough UNLESS it's a fight that strikes him into SUPER mainstream popularity. That's his personality. I love Floyd and appreciate
his hard work and dedication but I would bet the HOUSE on Adrian Broner to beat Floyd from pillar to post.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 18:35
by Counter-puncher
I think this might be a new low, albeit thats a tough call to make.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 18:39
by littlepug
The best ring brain v the worst, no contest
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 19:22
by dberry
It's seriously like a sheltered workshop in here.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 19:58
by Kalan
Adrien Broner isn't somebody who Floyd was afraid of... They thought they could beat each other but only Floyd is correct... Broner would have given Floyd a better fight than Andre Berto ... but Floyd proved by beating Maidana that he would also have beaten the smaller Broner... Shawn Porter dehydrated for the weigh-in a whole lot more than was good for him (all the way to 144) but he easily beat Broner despite that... Kenny Porter didn't want to go to 144, but Shawn said, "NO Let's DO IT!!! They know we WON'T accept a 144 catch weight. So they're offering it.. Let's JUMP on it.. If they back out of this offer they were NEVER going to fight me anyway. So we'll know for sure if Broner wants to fight or not.. I SWEAR I can make 144 for 1 fight and I won't be too weak to kick Adrien's ass."
The only Welterweights who would ever have beaten Floyd Mayweather are: 1. the Vernon Forrest of the 1st Shane Mosley fight - before Forrest had all those left shoulder and elbow operations, because Vernon had the jab, left hook, and straight right to smoke Floyd at that time... 2. Errol Spence who easily beat Floyd up in sparring when he had 16 fights... 3. Kell Brook who has an impossible style for Floyd... and 4. Keith Thurman who beat Robert Guerrero by a 14-point wider aggregate margin than Floyd beat Guerrero. Floyd lost at least 3 rounds on all cards and couldn't put Guerrero down.. Thurman had to cope with a massive head-butt in the face, which swelled his forehead up tremendously. He also had to cope with Floyd's favorite referee Kenny Bayless, who was trying to get Thurman beat.. Robert Byrd didn't let Guerrero in-fight AT ALL in his Floyd fight.. Guerrero got away with murder in his Andre Berto and Keith Thurman fights.. Bayless broke up every imagined clinch in Mayweather-Maidana II... But kept saying "fight out of there" when Guerrero was pushing, butting, and brawling vs Thurman.. Thurman still decked Guerrero for a 9-count and beat the living trash out of him. Then all he heard was criticism for not knocking Guerrero out. He's supposed to be this big puncher.. Nobody else has ever stopped Guerrero either of course... 5. Shawn Porter would be on Floyd 12 rounds for 3 minutes. Shawn is so strong and busy when he fights at a full 147 that Floyd wouldn't be able to deal with him... I never saw any other Welterweight who would beat Floyd.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:22
by gilgamesh
Broner can't beat any Top 10 Welterweight.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:25
by gilgamesh
1. Keith Thurman
2. Amir Khan
3. Tim Bradley
4. Kell Brook
5. Danny Garcia
6. Shawn Porter
7. Errol Spence Jr.
8. Jessie Vargas
9. Sammy Vasquez
10. Frankie Gomez
11. Sadam Ali
12. Chris Algieri
13. Robert Guerrero
14. Andre Berto
15. David Avanesyan
This is my Top 15 at Welterweight. The only ones Broner could potentially beat are the Bottom 4. Robert Guerrero even faded as he is would probably still outhustle and decision Broner. Berto is a slightly better version of Broner to me albeit not by much, and now that he's got his Floyd payday he might not have it in him to put the work in anymore. Algieri and Avanesyan are guys Broner could probably beat, but they could possibly beat him as well.
The rest of the guys beat Broner comfortably.
Broner's never gonna have a particularly great win to hang his hat on I don't figure.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:27
by gilgamesh
bnovelist wrote:I believe so! For this particular matchup, this style of fight we would see the best come out of Adrien Broner & I honestly believe that Broner doesn't
get motivated enough UNLESS it's a fight that strikes him into SUPER mainstream popularity. That's his personality. I love Floyd and appreciate
his hard work and dedication but I would bet the HOUSE on Adrian Broner to beat Floyd from pillar to post.
If you'd bet your house on this I hope you're prepared to live as a homeless man.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:29
by bnovelist
Broner has a chin & can fight in the pocket like Mayweather you guys are overlooking Broner this would be a bad style matchup for the older
Mayweather & he would get outworked!
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:45
by gilgamesh
bnovelist wrote:Broner has a chin & can fight in the pocket like Mayweather you guys are overlooking Broner this would be a bad style matchup for the older
Mayweather & he would get outworked!
It would be a bad matchup for Mayweather even if he won because he'd get nothing but sh*t on for fighting a guy that's not worthy of a fight with him.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:46
by gilgamesh
If you wanna know what Broner vs Floyd would look like watch Floyd vs Berto again and there it is.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:58
by Badhusker
Don't feed the troll.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 20:59
by gilgamesh
Don't tell me what to do
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 02:31
by thomasjkelley
Don't be so ornery.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 03:25
by sykessta
Honestly before broner's losses this would have been a big money fight and alot of people here were saying that broner would've had a chance to beat floyd.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 03:49
by foxdog1923
So now its Broner..
All these guys who supposed to beat Floyd and now its Broner.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 04:37
by dberry
In ten years time, even if Broner spent the next ten years focused and training with the best in the world, fighting the best, training under the best coaches and sparring the best and Mayweather spent the next ten years just ag ing, I'd still put my money on Mayweather.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 14:11
by Kalan
gilgamesh wrote:1. Keith Thurman
2. Amir Khan
3. Tim Bradley
4. Kell Brook
5. Danny Garcia
6. Shawn Porter
7. Errol Spence Jr.
8. Jessie Vargas
9. Sammy Vasquez
10. Frankie Gomez
You're putting Amir Khan ahead of Errol Spence.. Kell Brook.. Shawn Porter.. Danny Garcia.. and Jessie Vargas?????
Anemic punching Chris Algieri backed Khan up and forced him to grab and wrestle all night. Algieri tagged Khan up. That was a close fight. Spence outboxed and blew Algieri away like he's a flyweight... Spence or Brook would smash Khan out in 3 rounds... Khan would have made a lot more money by fighting Brook than he made for fighting Canelo. Khan even admitted that, telling interviewers "If all I were interested in was the money I would have fought Brook instead of Canelo" Eddie Hearn offered Khan the moon to fight Brook. It was one of those magical matchups like Froch-Groves..
Shawn Porter would basically Khan as fast as he did Malignaggi... Danny Garcia would smash Khan like he's already done... Khan still can't duck under a punch worth a damn... Vargas would do the same. Cut Khan down. It would just take a couple rounds longer than Garcia.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 15:02
by gilgamesh
I think a lot of the guys under Khan would beat Khan as well, but you don't rank guys based on hypotheticals or what you think would happen you rank them based on what they've actually done and what they've accomplished.
The Welterweight division is a bit hard to rank right now because almost all of those guys in the Top 10 haven't fought each other. The more these guys start fighting each other, the more clear it becomes who the best is at Welterweight.
For the record: I'd pick Thurman, Bradley, Brook, Garcia, Spence and Jessie Vargas to beat Khan. Khan will likely drop in the rankings by default at some point this year as I expect all the other guys in the division to be more active and doing things while he's sitting around doing f*ck all and counting his money from the Canelo fight.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 15:57
by Kalan
gilgamesh wrote:I think a lot of the guys under Khan would beat Khan as well, but you don't rank guys based on hypotheticals or what you think would happen you rank them based on what they've actually done and what they've accomplished
Giving guys the ranking they deserve isn't basing ranking on "hypotheticals" ... If Spence would crush Khan and Khan cherry-picks Algieri and refuses to fight ANYONE good, and the only reason he got crushed by Canelo is he was avoiding the top Welterweights... Khan hasn't beaten a single top Welterweight and all he does is duck and cherry-pick... Therefore you take guys who have been ducking Brook, Thurman, Spence, and Porter and drop them WAY down in the rankings... RIP chicken assed duckers for ducking tough fights: Khan.. Pacquiao.. Bradley.. Maidana.. even Garcia.. Thurman beats the trash out of Guerrero -- so does Garcia want to fight Thurman???? NOOOO!!! ... He fights Guerrero... after fighting Paulie Malignaggi... Now he's looking to fight Berto.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 16:00
by gilgamesh
Devon Alexander, Algieri and Collazo is about the same recycling pool all the Welterweights have been beating up and Khan beat those guys coming into the Canelo fight. Spence will deserve to be ranked ahead of Khan with a few more big wins. Don't worry Kalan. He'll get there soon enough. By years end probably.
Spence has exactly one big win at the moment, and that's Algieri. It was damned impressive no doubt, but at the moment Khan still has a deeper overall resume. It won't take Spence long to match what Khan has accomplished at Welterweight, and he'll surpass it as well I'm sure.
But for the record. If I ranked Spence over Khan because I think Spence would beat Khan then that would make my ratings meaningless because they would all be ranked based on what I think would happen rather than what has actually happened. Yes I do think Spence would kick Khan's ass, but he hasn't done it yet.
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 16:41
by Stuarty
Is this mug serious? Give me strength!
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 21 Jun 2016, 16:43
by handsofstone
Beat Floyd at what exactly??
Grade A English?
Re: Broner Is The One Who Can Beat Floyd
Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 01:39
by Kalan
Mayweather cherry-picked Berto for a reason... People thought he was joking when he floated the names... He could have had World Welterweight Title Unification fights with Kell Brook or Keith Thurman who are undefeated... And I don't give a crap if Khan fought super weak opponents Collazo, Alexander, and Algieri.. He could have fought Thurman or Brook which he didn't.. And Pacquiao never wanted Brook or Thurman and everybody was building up Crawford as the guy he was supposed to fight... and it was obviously he wasn't going to fight him and fight Bradley again.