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liam smith v canelo

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:22
by afcmarshall
Confirmed 17th September

Re: liam smith v canelo

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:36
by Horse
Has Alvarez renounced his middleweight title claim?

Re: liam smith v canelo

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:42
by pyenest77
Can't wait!

Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:42
by wesshaw1985
allegedly ‏@allegedly_tv - 1 hour ago
On 17 September @LiamBeefySmith takes on boxing's BIGGEST name and defends his World title #daretobegreat #andstill

Liam Smith ‏@LiamBeefySmith - 2 hours ago
BUZZING to announce I will defend my title against @Canelo September 17th in America, can't wait

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:49
by Boxerbeetle
Don't really give a toss either way, but would be funny if Smith smashed him up.

Re: liam smith v canelo

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:49
by Stuarty
Does anyone give Smith a chance here?

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 14:50
by Stuarty
Boxerbeetle wrote:Don't really give a toss either way, but would be funny if Smith smashed him up.
X2. Don't give Smith much of a chance though.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:01
by jameswilson
Fair play to all concerned.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:04
by crusader
Can you imagine how badly Smith would have to bust him up to win a decision?

I'm hoping for a Smith win but can't see it.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:07
by jameswilson
crusader wrote:Can you imagine how badly Smith would have to bust him up to win a decision?

I'm hoping for a Smith win but can't see it.
Any idea on the reaction stateside? I'd have thought Canelo would get stick but don't know if people aren't bothered.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:09
by crusader
jameswilson wrote:
crusader wrote:Can you imagine how badly Smith would have to bust him up to win a decision?

I'm hoping for a Smith win but can't see it.
Any idea on the reaction stateside? I'd have thought Canelo would get stick but don't know if people aren't bothered.
From what I've gleaned it's negative, which is what I expected given that Smith is pretty much a no-name in the US.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:13
by Stuarty
What weight is this being fought at? A Canelo special catch weight?

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:18
by crusader
154 for Smith's trinket

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:23
by Black Sam Bellamy
Hopefully Liam is earning life changing money for this, and fair play to him for going into the lions den as the Champ.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:28
by Stuarty
crusader wrote:154 for Smith's trinket
Cheers. You think Canelo still does 154 easy enough?

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:37
by keithmoonhangover
Anyone else have Smith as a live underdog in this?

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:39
by crusader
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone else have Smith as a live underdog in this?
Based on what?

Is he going to stop the bigger, durable Canelo? Is he going to beat him up enough to win a decision in Texas against someone who continually benefits from poor scoring? Smith may well have his moments, but I can't see him getting a win.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:42
by keithmoonhangover
crusader wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone else have Smith as a live underdog in this?
Based on what?

Is he going to stop the bigger, durable Canelo? Is he going to beat him up enough to win a decision in Texas against someone who continually benefits from poor scoring?
Canelo ain't that difficult to hit and doesn't respond well to feints. If Liam feints and gets his foot placement right, he could bust Canelo up.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:43
by Stuarty
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone else have Smith as a live underdog in this?
I don't give him much of a chance tbh but I'd love it if he managed the upset. His opposition has been poor and it's a bit of a jump from the guys he's been facing to going in against a top guy like Canelo. Maybe it'll bring the best out in him though and we'll see a different Liam Smith? Here's hoping.

Even if he loses and gives a decent account of himself it's a win/win situation. Well paid and raises his profile 100% overnight.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:46
by crusader
keithmoonhangover wrote:
crusader wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone else have Smith as a live underdog in this?
Based on what?

Is he going to stop the bigger, durable Canelo? Is he going to beat him up enough to win a decision in Texas against someone who continually benefits from poor scoring?
Canelo ain't that difficult to hit and doesn't respond well to feints. If Liam feints and gets his foot placement right, he could bust Canelo up.
Wow! Feints! It must be that easy.

Canelo has limitations, but he wasn't busted up by Cotto, Lara, or Trout, and Smith is a fairly basic fighter who couldn't build a lead over John Thompson. I think Canelo will be the stronger man and I highly doubt that Smith comes close to busting him up.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:49
by keithmoonhangover
crusader wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
crusader wrote:
Based on what?

Is he going to stop the bigger, durable Canelo? Is he going to beat him up enough to win a decision in Texas against someone who continually benefits from poor scoring?
Canelo ain't that difficult to hit and doesn't respond well to feints. If Liam feints and gets his foot placement right, he could bust Canelo up.
Wow! Feints! It must be that easy.

Canelo has limitations, but he wasn't busted up by Cotto, Lara, or Trout, and Smith is a fairly basic fighter who couldn't build a lead over John Thompson. I think Canelo will be the stronger man and I highly doubt that Smith comes close to busting him up.
I think Canelo will win, but Liam has a chance.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:49
by Rockys gum shield
Can anyone remember how Liam Smith treated Jimmy Kelly Jnr, Kalma is a bitch.

I wonder if Saul will treat him in the same manner.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:52
by crusader
Liam does have a chance, a chance that isn't big enough for me to consider it realistic.

Still, he's landed a fight against arguably the sport's biggest active name, so good on him.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:57
by Rexob
This will show what levels are all about Alverez by a punishing stoppage after a bright start by Smith.

Re: Liam Smith (c) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - September 17th 2016

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 15:57
by magnus
Rockys gum shield wrote:Can anyone remember how Liam Smith treated Jimmy Kelly Jnr, Kalma is a bitch.

I wonder if Saul will treat him in the same manner.
I do wonder if Liam will be doing his smiling, bully routine during this fight.