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Povetkin fight was canceled because Alexander Povetkin fail his drug test & tested postive for meldonium but Deontay Wilder could've still got a better opponent,he could've fought Luis Ortiz,Joseph Parker,are David Haye.Chris Arreloa isn't near a contender and is wash up,in his last three fight he struggled to win,against some unranked bums.

You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Gerald washington would have been a better opponent even though he's shite. He's atleast unbeaten and didn't have lots of miles on the clock like Arreola does.

Perseus wrote:You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Deontay can tie his shoe laces

psychod1986 wrote:Povetkin fight was canceled because Alexander Povetkin fail his drug test & tested postive for meldonium but Deontay Wilder could've still got a better opponent,he could've fought Luis Ortiz,Joseph Parker,are David Haye.Chris Arreloa isn't near a contender and is wash up,in his last three fight he struggled to win,against some unranked bums.

Um . . . considering that all of those mentioned were commited to other fights what do you suggest Wilder do to take advantage of the open date and his training camp shape?. . .just not fight at all and wait for one of them to become available so as not to be open to your criticism?

actjac wrote:

psychod1986 wrote:Povetkin fight was canceled because Alexander Povetkin fail his drug test & tested postive for meldonium but Deontay Wilder could've still got a better opponent,he could've fought Luis Ortiz,Joseph Parker,are David Haye.Chris Arreloa isn't near a contender and is wash up,in his last three fight he struggled to win,against some unranked bums.

Um . . . considering that all of those mentioned were commited to other fights what do you suggest Wilder do to take advantage of the open date and his training camp shape?. . .just not fight at all and wait for one of them to become available so as not to be open to your criticism?

Well said, and a lot nicer put than I would have said it.

Even though I disagree with Wilder fighting who he does I suppose a Fighter can only fight who's in front of him all be it weather he chose the opponent or his promoter/manager did the Arreola fight could be seen as a keep busy fight seen as though he went through a training camp for the Povetkin fight. I will reserve judgement on Wilders ambition and talent when he finally fights a legitimate top 5 opponent. Shame on the WBC for allowing these fights.

I agree. The Mexican heavy is the worst looking guy out there and he's been given more shots than a freshman college girl at a frat party. How many opportunities can a guy get?
I love the Vasquez colladdo undercard fight.

He's even more sad as just this, he's now acting like he's challenging Joshua, again, knowing the fight won't happen because he needs to fight Povetkin first, or lose that belt and there won't be any reason left for Joshua to fight the bumfighter and then after all suddenly acting like he got ducked, exactly like he did in januari.

Perseus wrote:You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Amazingly enough, there are those on here that see nothing wrong with Wilder vs Arreola. File it away in the amazing but true category.

jewboypgh wrote:I agree. The Mexican heavy is the worst looking guy out there and he's been given more shots than a freshman college girl at a frat party. How many opportunities can a guy get?
I love the Vasquez colladdo undercard fight.

"...Given more shots than a freshman college girl at at a frat party...."

Great Line.

Tony1244 wrote:

jewboypgh wrote:I agree. The Mexican heavy is the worst looking guy out there and he's been given more shots than a freshman college girl at a frat party. How many opportunities can a guy get?
I love the Vasquez colladdo undercard fight.

"...Given more shots than a freshman college girl tab at a frat party...."

Great Line.

I like it too.

Tony1244 wrote:

Perseus wrote:You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Amazingly enough, there are those on here that see nothing wrong with Wilder vs Arreola. File it away in the amazing but true category.

I absolutely hate the match-up of Wilder vs Arreola. That being said, I would rather see that fight then nothing at all. Wilder said they had quite a few other boxers interested but turned it down because of the time frame. Not many really good boxers will risk a fight like that with short notice to properly prepare, and you can't blame them. Arreola has nothing to lose, and is one lucky big punch away from everything to gain, and becoming the very first Mexican World Heavyweight Champion. Didn't Arreola KO Molina, who Wilder took 9 rounds to KO? He has a one in a million chance, but does have a chance.

Badhusker wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Perseus wrote:You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Amazingly enough, there are those on here that see nothing wrong with Wilder vs Arreola. File it away in the amazing but true category.

I absolutely hate the match-up of Wilder vs Arreola. That being said, I would rather see that fight then nothing at all. Wilder said they had quite a few other boxers interested but turned it down because of the time frame. Not many really good boxers will risk a fight like that with short notice to properly prepare, and you can't blame them. Arreola has nothing to lose, and is one lucky big punch away from everything to gain, and becoming the very first Mexican World Heavyweight Champion. Didn't Arreola KO Molina, who Wilder took 9 rounds to KO? He has a one in a million chance, but does have a chance.

I don't blame Wilder. Hell, we would have taken the shot too for the cash. I blame boxing and the way its run. But I agree, at least a new match was scheduled, so its better than nothing.

I wish a new match was always scheduled. If Fury isn't ready because of his ankle, drug test, or because he's too concerned with Jewish lesbians who get abortions (I tried to get all his Un-PC rants into one,) I wish Wlad would have fought a Big Baby Miller or a Dillan Whyte or someone. Yes, I know, boxing is a business and everyone is adverse to risk.

Badhusker wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Perseus wrote:You're right.

Good job pointing out something that everybody already knows.

Amazingly enough, there are those on here that see nothing wrong with Wilder vs Arreola. File it away in the amazing but true category.

I absolutely hate the match-up of Wilder vs Arreola. That being said, I would rather see that fight then nothing at all. Wilder said they had quite a few other boxers interested but turned it down because of the time frame. Not many really good boxers will risk a fight like that with short notice to properly prepare, and you can't blame them. Arreola has nothing to lose, and is one lucky big punch away from everything to gain, and becoming the very first Mexican World Heavyweight Champion. Didn't Arreola KO Molina, who Wilder took 9 rounds to KO? He has a one in a million chance, but does have a chance.

Amazing that some don't grasp he couldn't have gotten a better opponent.

Arreola is awful but most decent heavyweights were either scheduled to fight, coming off a fight or wouldn't have taken the fight on short notice. I've been critical of Wilder's defences but I don't really blame him for this and he was about to fight a legit contender. The WBC however need looking at for Arreola mysteriously popping up in their rankings just in time for them to sanction this for the title.

Realistically the only available opponent for such a short time frame, better than Arreola was Washington.
Wilder has mouths to feed and needed a opponent. I'd rather see him have this fight than waste a training camp and be inactive.

This has been discussed on a few different threads, but the summary, to me, is:

1) I don't blame Wilder. I blame the politics of boxing that it isn't a better opponent.

2) I'm agnostic on whether Povetkin deserved a positive test. Other "experts" know more about PEDs than I do. Having said that, Povetkin refused to fight Wlad for years when he was the #1 contender, so there is some strange precedent here.

3) I don't consider Wilder champion anymore than I considered Coetzee champion during Holmes' era. So Arreola is just another subpar opponent for the interesting yet overly protected kid from 'Bama.

alot of soppy fights get made nowadays

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Amazingly enough, there are those on here that see nothing wrong with Wilder vs Arreola. File it away in the amazing but true category.

I absolutely hate the match-up of Wilder vs Arreola. That being said, I would rather see that fight then nothing at all. Wilder said they had quite a few other boxers interested but turned it down because of the time frame. Not many really good boxers will risk a fight like that with short notice to properly prepare, and you can't blame them. Arreola has nothing to lose, and is one lucky big punch away from everything to gain, and becoming the very first Mexican World Heavyweight Champion. Didn't Arreola KO Molina, who Wilder took 9 rounds to KO? He has a one in a million chance, but does have a chance.

Amazing that some don't grasp he couldn't have gotten a better opponent.

Amazing that unless you're on the inside of this, and you're not, you don't know if that statement is true.

Perhaps Big Baby Miller or Pulev wanted the fight but were turned down because they're "too risky." I like Wilder, but acknowledge he has not always made the best effort to get the best opponent.

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Tony1244 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
I absolutely hate the match-up of Wilder vs Arreola. That being said, I would rather see that fight then nothing at all. Wilder said they had quite a few other boxers interested but turned it down because of the time frame. Not many really good boxers will risk a fight like that with short notice to properly prepare, and you can't blame them. Arreola has nothing to lose, and is one lucky big punch away from everything to gain, and becoming the very first Mexican World Heavyweight Champion. Didn't Arreola KO Molina, who Wilder took 9 rounds to KO? He has a one in a million chance, but does have a chance.

Amazing that some don't grasp he couldn't have gotten a better opponent.

Amazing that unless you're on the inside of this, and you're not, you don't know if that statement is true.

Perhaps Big Baby Miller or Pulev wanted the fight but were turned down because they're "too risky." I like Wilder, but acknowledge he has not always made the best effort to get the best opponent.

Another from sad. Be a predictable idiot and write another " "

How do you know I have no inside information? My phone is full of fighters and people in the know. Not that i use it often. As much as I enjoy watching you argue with emoticons I'll let you have this one.

Though anything PBC can't be verified as they don't speak to the media. With the short time someone like Pulev would never be an option with two promoters and no time for promotion he'd probably make more in an 8 rounder. Washington was considered, but I heard Al would rather try and build him for a minute. While that fight is greatly preferred by all of us, Arreola is the safer option. Not building anything with him and it's not like it's that much better to a point where you'd expect them to take the tougher road.

Luis Ortiz was ready to go... He would pay any opponent off to fight Wilder... Ortiz would fight Wilder on 24 hours notice... He would also knock Wilder colder than 7 barrels of penguin shlt... Povetkin also passed all his PED tests... His team is currently serving paper in American courts... Considering how quickly Pacquiao's defamation suite got traction... These suites should wind their way through our court system in a couple of years... The American judicial system is so glacial that it pisses me off... Justice delayed is justice denied... They find out somebody on death row for 26 years is innocent ... and it takes him 3 more years to get out.

Ortiz promoter has a 300 million dollar law suit on going with Haymon fight won't happen until that is settled. Plus Ortiz has mandatories against Ustinov and winner of Chagaev/Oquendo.

Ortiz chose to take a voluntary fight against Thompson and pushed his schedule back 6 months for no reason. There was internal debate at Golden Boy that Thompson was too tough of an opponent for him. His own promoters don't believe he cab succeed without carefully matching him. Wilder would beat him senseless.

That's not true, they ended up with Thompson because Ustinov didn't want to get the mandatory over with then and better options declined.