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WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 15:08
by boxing_rocks
http://www.BS.com/ryabinsky-wa ... an--106259?
I doubt that Ryabinsky is lying, as WADA would deny his statements if they were wrong. I hate how WADA/VADA operate. Why not be more public and publish decisions like that?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 15:21
by Tarkus
There are lot of people here who like to jump to conclusion before all facts are in. This is a knock out blow for those who claimed Povetkin cheated.
Now I want to see Wilders face when Haymon tells him that he has to go to Russia after all.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 15:39
by boxing_rocks
Tarkus wrote:There are lot of people here who like to jump to conclusion before all facts are in. This is a knock out blow for those who claimed Povetkin cheated.
Now I want to see Wilders face when Haymon tells him that he has to go to Russia after all.

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 16:17
by Freedom2013
Tarkus wrote:There are lot of people here who like to jump to conclusion before all facts are in. This is a knock out blow for those who claimed Povetkin cheated.
Now I want to see Wilders face when Haymon tells him that he has to go to Russia after all.
He'll soil himself with fear.
Deontay has never wanted to fight a live opponent, he prefers to fight shot boxers like Arreola and Lyakhovich.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 16:21
by Andrew
Tarkus wrote:There are lot of people here who like to jump to conclusion before all facts are in. This is a knock out blow for those who claimed Povetkin cheated.
Now I want to see Wilders face when Haymon tells him that he has to go to Russia after all.
This is a very interesting read BTW
http://www.BS.com/ryabinsky-in ... ut--105186
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 16:33
by Boxing Writer
Hopefully fight will happen now. But I can't understand why Ruyabinsky wants this fight to be held only in Russia (as well as Povetkin's fight against Klitschko). Other Russian heavyweights like Maskaev and Ibragimov won their world titles by beating Americans in USA. And Povetkin already had one title fight in Russia and failed miserably in front of his hometown crowd.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 16:44
by computerrank
"WADA sent us today a clarification note saying athletes that tested positive with less than one microgram of meldonium in samples taken before October 1, 2016 will not be disqualified. Therefore, WADA admits that Alexander Povetkin is "clean,"
This simply means, Povetkin was on drugs, but no one wants to state this now. - He stopped taking his drugs, but he cheated for a hoped-for edge - he is a cheater.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 17:01
by Killer Blow
Disgusting corruption. Watch Sharadopa get a reduced ban as well.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 18:15
by lefty
computerrank wrote:"WADA sent us today a clarification note saying athletes that tested positive with less than one microgram of meldonium in samples taken before October 1, 2016 will not be disqualified. Therefore, WADA admits that Alexander Povetkin is "clean,"
This simply means, Povetkin was on drugs, but no one wants to state this now. - He stopped taking his drugs, but he cheated for a hoped-for edge - he is a cheater.
Doesn't it say samples taken before October 1st though or am I misreading this somehow?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 18:30
by SFW
He was using a sketchy substance to gain an edge. Or he never would have taken it at all since he's such a clean athlete, right? They can give him a pass, hope Wilder breaks his face and ends his career. Punk bitch hid from Klitschko most of his career then got embarrassed by the guy he ran from. You guys can blow him all day long nothing new.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 19:06
by foxdog1923
WADA cant cry wolf and then step back and tip toe out of this mess they created. There must be some good reason why Riabinsky is not suing them which makes more sense then suing Wilder who has a REASON for what hes being sued for.
WADA needs to pay.
Wilder and Povetkin dont need this shlt, they just need to focus on fighting each other.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 19:55
by Badhusker
Tarkus, Freedom, BoxingRocks,
Sorry to break it to you, but Wilder had already signed and trained for the Povetkin fight. I really doubt that he fears to fight anyone. The three of you can't be that fornicating dumb, but I guess I can see the hateful part. Carry on dumbasses.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 21:02
by Cygnus475
Badhusker wrote:Tarkus, Freedom, BoxingRocks,
Sorry to break it to you, but Wilder had already signed and trained for the Povetkin fight. I really doubt that he fears to fight anyone. The three of you can't be that effing dumb, but I guess I can see the hateful part. Carry on dumbasses.
Yeah I don't get why it's so popular to call him a coward. If he didn't want to fight him he wouldn't have signed and flown to Russia, he would have just pulled a canelo and dumped the belt
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 21:16
by boxing_rocks
He never flew to Russia. If he isn't afraid, how would you explain his choice of opponents?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 01 Jul 2016, 22:18
by asdfjkl
Appearantly I made exactly the right prediction again, must be pure luck.
Still sad to see how slow WADA is and still sad to see how many dumb Americans, thanks to Wilder and his team, think Povetkin did a single thing wrong.
Wilder and his team knew very well this would happen, they wanted WADA/VADA tezting for a reason. Next to that Wilder was more fat and clearly out of shape after his holiday in the UK, just before the Povetkin fight he knew from would never happen.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 00:09
by Kalan
computerrank wrote:"WADA sent us today a clarification note saying athletes that tested positive with less than one microgram of meldonium in samples taken before October 1, 2016 will not be disqualified. Therefore, WADA admits that Alexander Povetkin is "clean,"
This simply means, Povetkin was on drugs, but no one wants to state this now. - He stopped taking his drugs, but he cheated for a hoped-for edge - he is a cheater.
You're an IDIOT with a vegetable for a brain.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 00:21
by Kalan
foxdog1923 wrote:WADA cant cry wolf and then step back and tip toe out of this mess they created. There must be some good reason why Riabinsky is not suing them which makes more sense then suing Wilder who has a REASON for what hes being sued for.
WADA needs to pay.
Wilder and Povetkin dont need this shlt, they just need to focus on fighting each other.
It's VADA that used the innuendo and said the result was positive for Meldonium...and then did the B Sample without being asked to test it by Povetkin.. since .07 micorgrams passed easily both tests were going to be exactly the same with Povetkin passing both. They implied Povetkin was dirty by saying, "Povetkin is entitled to have his B Sample tested." They never said the test passed with ,07 microgram of Meldonium... They said "There was also Meldonium present in Sample B" ... I would go after VADA... Those guys and Conte are filthy bastards.
That's the corrupt group that's mixed up with ex-con and PED peddler Victor Conte... VADA has bribed the WBC to get all their title holders to use VADA instead of WADA... VADA is a ripoff of WADA... WADA did nothing but issue their guidelines and confirmed Povetkin never cheated.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 02:49
by Freedom2013
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 03:09
by asdfjkl
How much money do you guys think Wilder should pay for his lies around Povetkin?
I think it should be around 80m dollar, look through how much bullshit Povetkin has to go through and how many Americans still (seem to, or act like) think Povetkin did anything wrong.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 03:12
by crusader
So according to the current standards, put in place by the experts at WADA (at least that's what some were calling them when the testing drama started), Povetkin seems to be clean.
Does this mean he's no longer a morally reprehensible cheater? After all, it was WADA who set the initial standards under which he was apparently dirty. If your judgement then was based on WADA standards, why not now?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 03:29
by Pureist
foxdog1923 wrote:WADA cant cry wolf and then step back and tip toe out of this mess they created. There must be some good reason why Riabinsky is not suing them which makes more sense then suing Wilder who has a REASON for what hes being sued for.
WADA needs to pay.
Wilder and Povetkin dont need this shlt, they just need to focus on fighting each other.
Foxdog, got this one very wrong like everything else you post about, must have the proverbial tail between your legs now scampering away
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 03:51
by Boxing Writer
boxing_rocks wrote:He never flew to Russia. If he isn't afraid, how would you explain his choice of opponents?
Wasn't Povetkin afraid of Wladimir Klitschko when he pulled out from scheduled fights (second time with giving 10000 different reasons) and fought guys like Mora, Firtha, Oruh, Nolan, corpse of Hasim Rahman, Boswell, Wawrzyk instead? Wilder's last 4 oppnents are world class in comparison.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 03:53
by Kalan
crusader wrote:So according to the current standards, put in place by the experts at WADA (at least that's what some were calling them when the testing drama started), Povetkin seems to be clean.
Does this mean he's no longer a morally reprehensible cheater? After all, it was WADA who set the initial standards under which he was apparently dirty. If your judgement then was based on WADA standards, why not now?
He never tested dirty you damned idiot. He passed ALL the tests with flying colors... VADA (NOT WADA) said there was Meldonium present in his sample... What they DIDN'T say was that "presence" was .07 of a microgram, which easily passed... They expected the American media to say he failed the test, which VADA never said.. They IMPLIED Povetkin failed by FAILING to say his concentration fell well within testing guidelines for passing the test... Then to add fuel to the fire they said "Povetkin is entitled to have his B Sample tested." and tested his B Sample which wasn't necessary because hIs A Sample passed... Then instead of telling the media his B-Sample also passed the test they said, "Meldonium was also present in his B Sample"
It's sheer stupidity for the media not to ask about the concentrations and whether he passed or failed... But VADA wanted to destroy Povetkin and they know the media isn't too careful about details... I hope the Povetkin team realizes tactic and never uses VADA again.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 05:05
by foxdog1923
Kalan wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:WADA cant cry wolf and then step back and tip toe out of this mess they created. There must be some good reason why Riabinsky is not suing them which makes more sense then suing Wilder who has a REASON for what hes being sued for.
WADA needs to pay.
Wilder and Povetkin dont need this shlt, they just need to focus on fighting each other.
It's VADA that used the innuendo and said the result was positive for Meldonium...and then did the B Sample without being asked to test it by Povetkin.. since .07 micorgrams passed easily both tests were going to be exactly the same with Povetkin passing both. They implied Povetkin was dirty by saying, "Povetkin is entitled to have his B Sample tested." They never said the test passed with ,07 microgram of Meldonium... They said "There was also Meldonium present in Sample B" ... I would go after VADA... Those guys and Conte are filthy bastards.
That's the corrupt group that's mixed up with ex-con and PED peddler Victor Conte... VADA has bribed the WBC to get all their title holders to use VADA instead of WADA... VADA is a ripoff of WADA...
Agreed 100%
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 05:05
by foxdog1923
Pureist wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:WADA cant cry wolf and then step back and tip toe out of this mess they created. There must be some good reason why Riabinsky is not suing them which makes more sense then suing Wilder who has a REASON for what hes being sued for.
WADA needs to pay.
Wilder and Povetkin dont need this shlt, they just need to focus on fighting each other.
Foxdog, got this one very wrong like everything else you post about, must have the proverbial tail between your legs now scampering away
How is it wrong? 3/4 of this forum (or perhaps more) believe this to be so.